Do you remember when you all wrote this? Well I do. Just wanted to let
all of you know they make EXTENDED PYLONS for PWC's now. Just take a
look at Overton's, and you will find the "Riva Air Pylon" for PWC's. I
guess yall were wrong. I could have been a millionaire. Below are just
a few of the responses I got when I posted this thread. I guess that
me and the others who thought this was a good idea are not stupid
bastards, jackasses, or idiots after all.
You people are really annoying. Any of you stupid bastards that think a
pwc isn't gonna flip with an extended pylon should leave this newsgroup
NOW, and go find some kind of "alt.dumbass" newsgroup or something. What
ails you people? Hey Brock, you jackass, how do you know that spacely is
NOT a pro? God, you people are so clueless. Go away.
You have got to be kidding! The first time the wakeboarder made a
hard cut the PWC would flip over. That is why many boat builders
don't recomend them on full size boats...and boats are more stable
than a PWC. You don't have to take even high school physics to
figure this one out!
I don't think things are really that rude yet.
But what is being suggested is quite danderous, so you SHOULD
expect some strong condemnation of it. 3-5 feet of leverage on a PWC
can be turned over with a person standing on the edge while
boarding the craft. You may board from behind, but that doesn't
mean the PWC is stable, it means that you have learned that
boarding from the side doesn't work because the thing isn't very stable.
You don't take hard cuts, but what about the others
you pull that don't realize that the PWC is on the verge of
tipping if you pull a bit when out wide on a cut. What about
the person that does pull hardest behind the wake, gets wide and then
bites it and while trying to recover holds the handle a bit long
and hauls you over. What about the first time you are pulling
someone through a turnaround and they get out on a whip and
haul you over.
This is basic physics, and unlike a trip to the moon, this is
really easily figured out either on a piece of paper or with a little
practical demonstration while standing still.
You are proposing something that is dangerous.
You don't think it would tip over?
A personal watercraft has far far lower stability than a full size ski
As it is you have heard boat manufacturers state their reservations
these pylon extensions on their boats. Here in the newsgroups you have
a number of us express concerns about stability problems as well as
strain problems on the original pylon. All of this is on rather heavy
huge by comparison, full size ski boats.
I would suggest that your post borders on the dangerous to suggest
that a PWC would not tip over.
How about a "seat of the pants" comparison of stability...
Most PWC's either will, or will nearly tip over when the operator
stands on one side. COmpare that with a ski boat which can easily handle
5 or 6 people standing on one side.
With suggestions like these you *do* deserve no boat at all.
Have your friend standing on the back of your PWC take your 35lb bags
and hold them out to the side. See what happens even at arms length.
Your added bags are only contributing a vertical force which have no
bearing on roll.
Unlike others in this thread I don't think an extended pylon is
dangerous on a PWC. It is not dangerous because it will not work. You
will get up, cut to the side and your Polaris will roll over. You and
your driver will get wet, unhook the pole, and let it sink to the bottom
of the river.
What does speed have to do with it? This is all about leverage. If the
pylon where high enough it would probably flip the jet ski just pulling
the wakeboarder out of the water. In any case any once the boarder gets
out to the side and makes any pull at all, the jet ski will roll over.
Just look how far you can pull around a jet ski with the toe eye low to
It aint about stability. Its about a horizontal force being applied to a
point above the PWC. Its an idea that will not work.