First Ride of the Year/ First Pisser of the Year

First Ride of the Year/ First Pisser of the Year

Post by Robb Dunla » Sun, 24 Jan 1999 04:00:00


    Living in South Carolina has some serious advantages.  It was 72
yesterday so I sneaked out of work an hour early to get in my first ride
of the season.  I hadnt planned on riding outdoors until the middle of
March, but the weather has been fabulous this year.
    I went home to my brand new (to me - its used) Softride Power V.  I
just picked it up this week and had only ridden it on the trainer
(besides a test ride).  This thing is the bike of my dreams.  I look at
it and I am overwhelmed by the thought of this racing season.  Ive
already put mental notches in it thinking of the people at the Gulf
Coast 1/2 that Im going to fly by ;-).  I started riding, enjoying
being outside and smelling the spring like air and soon realized that
riding the trainer DOES NOT prepare you for the road.  Oh my god its
hard work!  I always forget that the first few rides of the season are
SLOW.  I was still having a great time, though.  It was nice to be
outside, and I reminded myself that this was just going to have to be an
easy ride, and that I would re-acclimate after a few more.
    The bike handled marvelously, with much better stability than my
Cannondale road bike.  The Dale is setup with a forward seat post and
some ancient profile one piece aerobars (the old triangle style).  It
took a while to get used to the "twitchyness" of that bike.  Im amazed
at how stable the Power V is, even while cornering on the aerobars.  My
Power V is set at ~78 while the Dale is set at ~75 with the forward
seatpost.  I really like the 78 position, especially on flat land while
on the aerobars.
    Now, for the bad part of the story.  I was about finished with the
ride when the chain popped off of the front chainring.  I was shifting
from the large to the small chainring and I "overshifted".  The cables
are new and have stretched from when they were put on.  I figured that I
could compensate and that I would tune the bike when I put my new
aerobars on next week.  By the time I realized that the chain had popped
off I had already peddled the cranks another revolution.  I stopped
immediately and extracted the chain from between the chainring and the
bottom bracket.  No, it couldnt be ? OH MY GOD,  I SCRATCHED THE FRAME

bike: this is serious.  I almost cried.  I calmed down and rode the rest
of the way home.  I had completely lost the good mood from the first
part of the ride; boy was I pissed!
    When I got home I inspected the damage.  It doesnt look like the
scratch is very deep; looks like it merely removed the paint.  I wrote
Softride to ask for their advice; I hope they dont tell me its
something serious.
     Oh well, it was a nice ride and the damage is probably
superficial.  Im still going to kick much but this year :-)

Robb Rocket

PS ? I guess I subconsciously needed to put real notches in my bike
instead of mental ones!

 
 
 

First Ride of the Year/ First Pisser of the Year

Post by Iron Pe » Sun, 24 Jan 1999 04:00:00

Quote:
>     Oh well, it was a nice ride and the damage is probably
>superficial.  Im still going to kick much but this year :-)

>Robb Rocket

It probably is superficial. I have a Zipp bike whose chain sometimes gets
embedded between the frame and the chainring when I put the bike together again
after transporting it somewhere. There's no paint there now, but the bike works
fine.

It definitely is not easy getting that first scratch. I feel your pain.

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First Ride of the Year/ First Pisser of the Year

Post by David Stanto » Tue, 26 Jan 1999 04:00:00

Robb,

Had a very similar experience with my BRAND NEW Kestrel. Took it
to a LBS and got them to check the setup/tightness etc. and they
made a few 'adjustments'. Out on my first group ride with my
fabulous new machine and the chain pops off changing from Big
to Small CR taking some paint (and a little bit of Carbon) with it.

I was devastated and it took me a couple of weeks to get over it.
As you can imagine I haven't been back in the same shop again !!

Have a short morning period, forget the scratch and enjoy - it's
still a great machine.
dave

Quote:

>     Living in South Carolina has some serious advantages.  It was 72
> yesterday so I sneaked out of work an hour early to get in my first ride
> of the season.  I hadnt planned on riding outdoors until the middle of
> March, but the weather has been fabulous this year.
>     I went home to my brand new (to me - its used) Softride Power V.  I
> just picked it up this week and had only ridden it on the trainer
> (besides a test ride).  This thing is the bike of my dreams.  I look at
> it and I am overwhelmed by the thought of this racing season.  Ive
> already put mental notches in it thinking of the people at the Gulf
> Coast 1/2 that Im going to fly by ;-).  I started riding, enjoying
> being outside and smelling the spring like air and soon realized that
> riding the trainer DOES NOT prepare you for the road.  Oh my god its
> hard work!  I always forget that the first few rides of the season are
> SLOW.  I was still having a great time, though.  It was nice to be
> outside, and I reminded myself that this was just going to have to be an
> easy ride, and that I would re-acclimate after a few more.
>     The bike handled marvelously, with much better stability than my
> Cannondale road bike.  The Dale is setup with a forward seat post and
> some ancient profile one piece aerobars (the old triangle style).  It
> took a while to get used to the "twitchyness" of that bike.  Im amazed
> at how stable the Power V is, even while cornering on the aerobars.  My
> Power V is set at ~78 while the Dale is set at ~75 with the forward
> seatpost.  I really like the 78 position, especially on flat land while
> on the aerobars.
>     Now, for the bad part of the story.  I was about finished with the
> ride when the chain popped off of the front chainring.  I was shifting
> from the large to the small chainring and I "overshifted".  The cables
> are new and have stretched from when they were put on.  I figured that I
> could compensate and that I would tune the bike when I put my new
> aerobars on next week.  By the time I realized that the chain had popped
> off I had already peddled the cranks another revolution.  I stopped
> immediately and extracted the chain from between the chainring and the
> bottom bracket.  No, it couldnt be ? OH MY GOD,  I SCRATCHED THE FRAME

> bike: this is serious.  I almost cried.  I calmed down and rode the rest
> of the way home.  I had completely lost the good mood from the first
> part of the ride; boy was I pissed!
>     When I got home I inspected the damage.  It doesnt look like the
> scratch is very deep; looks like it merely removed the paint.  I wrote
> Softride to ask for their advice; I hope they dont tell me its
> something serious.
>      Oh well, it was a nice ride and the damage is probably
> superficial.  Im still going to kick much but this year :-)

> Robb Rocket

> PS ? I guess I subconsciously needed to put real notches in my bike
> instead of mental ones!


 
 
 

First Ride of the Year/ First Pisser of the Year

Post by f.. » Tue, 26 Jan 1999 04:00:00


Quote:

> Robb,

> Had a very similar experience with my BRAND NEW Kestrel. Took it
> to a LBS and got them to check the setup/tightness etc. and they
> made a few 'adjustments'. Out on my first group ride with my
> fabulous new machine and the chain pops off changing from Big
> to Small CR taking some paint (and a little bit of Carbon) with it.

> I was devastated and it took me a couple of weeks to get over it.
> As you can imagine I haven't been back in the same shop again !!

> Have a short morning period, forget the scratch and enjoy - it's
> still a great machine.
> dave


> >     Living in South Carolina has some serious advantages.  It was 72
> > yesterday so I sneaked out of work an hour early to get in my first ride
> > of the season.  I hadnt planned on riding outdoors until the middle of
> > March, but the weather has been fabulous this year.
> >     I went home to my brand new (to me - its used) Softride Power V.  I
> > just picked it up this week and had only ridden it on the trainer
> > (besides a test ride).  This thing is the bike of my dreams.  I look at
> > it and I am overwhelmed by the thought of this racing season.  Ive
> > already put mental notches in it thinking of the people at the Gulf
> > Coast 1/2 that Im going to fly by ;-).  I started riding, enjoying
> > being outside and smelling the spring like air and soon realized that
> > riding the trainer DOES NOT prepare you for the road.  Oh my god its
> > hard work!  I always forget that the first few rides of the season are
> > SLOW.  I was still having a great time, though.  It was nice to be
> > outside, and I reminded myself that this was just going to have to be an
> > easy ride, and that I would re-acclimate after a few more.
> >     The bike handled marvelously, with much better stability than my
> > Cannondale road bike.  The Dale is setup with a forward seat post and
> > some ancient profile one piece aerobars (the old triangle style).  It
> > took a while to get used to the "twitchyness" of that bike.  Im amazed
> > at how stable the Power V is, even while cornering on the aerobars.  My
> > Power V is set at ~78 while the Dale is set at ~75 with the forward
> > seatpost.  I really like the 78 position, especially on flat land while
> > on the aerobars.
> >     Now, for the bad part of the story.  I was about finished with the
> > ride when the chain popped off of the front chainring.  I was shifting
> > from the large to the small chainring and I "overshifted".  The cables
> > are new and have stretched from when they were put on.  I figured that I
> > could compensate and that I would tune the bike when I put my new
> > aerobars on next week.  By the time I realized that the chain had popped
> > off I had already peddled the cranks another revolution.  I stopped
> > immediately and extracted the chain from between the chainring and the
> > bottom bracket.  No, it couldnt be ? OH MY GOD,  I SCRATCHED THE FRAME

> > bike: this is serious.  I almost cried.  I calmed down and rode the rest
> > of the way home.  I had completely lost the good mood from the first
> > part of the ride; boy was I pissed!
> >     When I got home I inspected the damage.  It doesnt look like the
> > scratch is very deep; looks like it merely removed the paint.  I wrote
> > Softride to ask for their advice; I hope they dont tell me its
> > something serious.
> >      Oh well, it was a nice ride and the damage is probably
> > superficial.  Im still going to kick much but this year :-)

> > Robb Rocket

> > PS ? I guess I subconsciously needed to put real notches in my bike
> > instead of mental ones!

Guys,
I suggest getting some small, thin sheets of aluminum and using some sort of
adhesive to attach them to the carbon frame in the critical area near the
chain-rings.  I have heard of cases where the chain sliced through the carbon
fiber.  Potentially major bummer!  Frame replacement warranties are a good
thing.

Frank "that first 10 mile ride seemed like 40" Wallace

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First Ride of the Year/ First Pisser of the Year

Post by PPWren » Tue, 26 Jan 1999 04:00:00

Quote:
>>>I was shifting

from the large to the small chainring and I "overshifted".  The cables
are new and have stretched from when they were put on.<<

The cables have nothing to do with a front der overshift-it's the poorly set up
front der and limit screws-
peter

 
 
 

First Ride of the Year/ First Pisser of the Year

Post by Chuck Hul » Tue, 26 Jan 1999 04:00:00

Pete,
 Don't you have what Zipp calls the "growth" on your frame? It's that
small white plastic piece which bolts between the frame and the top of
the small chainring. When installed properly, it is virtually impossible to
have the chain gooff the inside. That's it's purpose in life, and it is
supposed
to fit close enough that you need to ride a few miles to have the inner ring
actually grind into it. I've ridden a Zipp for four seasons and never had
the
chain go off inside during a ride.

Chuck

Quote:

>>     Oh well, it was a nice ride and the damage is probably
>>superficial.  Im still going to kick much but this year :-)

>>Robb Rocket

>It probably is superficial. I have a Zipp bike whose chain sometimes gets
>embedded between the frame and the chainring when I put the bike together
again
>after transporting it somewhere. There's no paint there now, but the bike
works
>fine.

>It definitely is not easy getting that first scratch. I feel your pain.

>"Iron Pete" Priolo        +--------+
>                          |26      |
>IMC'96: 10:36:37          |   Fe   |   IMNZ, IMC '99
>IMC'97: 10:42:53          |        |
>                          +--------+
>                 "THE BEST ELEMENT OF RACING"

 
 
 

First Ride of the Year/ First Pisser of the Year

Post by Iron Pe » Wed, 27 Jan 1999 04:00:00

Quote:
>Pete,
> Don't you have what Zipp calls the "growth" on your frame? It's that
>small white plastic piece which bolts between the frame and the top of
>the small chainring. When installed properly, it is virtually impossible to
>have the chain gooff the inside. That's it's purpose in life, and it is
>supposed
>to fit close enough that you need to ride a few miles to have the inner ring
>actually grind into it. I've ridden a Zipp for four seasons and never had
>the
>chain go off inside during a ride.

>Chuck

Yes I do, and it does work, but only when the chain is going at a forward
motion. All of my problems with the chain are when I transport the bike to and
from races, when I pop the real wheel out. The chain seems to sneak in from
underneath rather than from above, causing the same problem.

I've made some small adjustments to my rituals when transporting the bike
("tying" the chain to the chainstay), and I've had no problems with it in the
last two years. The scar is still there though, but since carbon doesn't "rust"
 it's only a "flesh" wound. :-)

"Iron Pete" Priolo        +--------+
                          |26      |
IMC'96: 10:36:37          |   Fe   |   IMNZ, IMC '99
IMC'97: 10:42:53          |        |
                          +--------+
                 "THE BEST ELEMENT OF RACING"