Hammerhead 1/2 IM in Aptos,CA

Hammerhead 1/2 IM in Aptos,CA

Post by Michael Ho » Sat, 17 Feb 1996 04:00:00


Has anyone done this 1/2IM?  I may be in Reno, and since it's only about
4 or 5 hours away, I thought I would give it a try.  Does anyone have the
race director's phone number?  And more importantly, how much does it
cost?  Was the course rough?  etc....

Thanks,
mike

 
 
 

Hammerhead 1/2 IM in Aptos,CA

Post by Myke Morg » Sat, 17 Feb 1996 04:00:00


Quote:

>Has anyone done this 1/2IM?  I may be in Reno, and since it's only about
>4 or 5 hours away, I thought I would give it a try.  Does anyone have the
>race director's phone number?  And more importantly, how much does it
>cost?  Was the course rough?  etc....

>Thanks,
>mike

This USED to be a fabulous race. The last I heard, it is no more. I sent
them my money last year, the race was canceled, and I have yet to receive
a refund. The race director is in some sort of trouble (which will remain
unspecified by me as I only have sketchy details). To his credit, I did
receive a letter from him expressing his intentions to refund all (around
20) people who paid for last year and did not race. Sorry for the bad
news...

myke

--
Tellmesomethingidontknowtellmesomethingicanusepushthebuttonconnectthegoddamndots

 
 
 

Hammerhead 1/2 IM in Aptos,CA

Post by Aram Yelli » Mon, 19 Feb 1996 04:00:00


Quote:
> Has anyone done this 1/2IM?  I may be in Reno, and since it's only about
> 4 or 5 hours away, I thought I would give it a try.  Does anyone have the
> race director's phone number?  And more importantly, how much does it
> cost?  Was the course rough?  etc....

> Thanks,
> mike

Mike,
        I would stay away from that race if I were you.  It just bad
news. If this race is run by a guy named Patrick Gilbert you'll probably end
up losing your money. He advertised a race called the "HammerHead
Triathlon" last summer in Aptos.  I along with many other people entered
only to lose our money to this guy.
         Ofcourse if this race is being run by someone
different then do it!!  

Marc

 
 
 

Hammerhead 1/2 IM in Aptos,CA

Post by Ian L Harp » Tue, 20 Feb 1996 04:00:00



Quote:


>> Has anyone done this 1/2IM?  I may be in Reno, and since it's only about
>> 4 or 5 hours away, I thought I would give it a try.  Does anyone have the
>> race director's phone number?  And more importantly, how much does it
>> cost?  Was the course rough?  etc....

>> Thanks,
>> mike
>Mike,
>    I would stay away from that race if I were you.  It just bad
>news. If this race is run by a guy named Patrick Gilbert you'll probably end
>up losing your money. He advertised a race called the "HammerHead
>Triathlon" last summer in Aptos.  I along with many other people entered
>only to lose our money to this guy.
>     Ofcourse if this race is being run by someone
>different then do it!!  

>Marc

The Hammerhead was a great race when it existed. Unfortunately, last year,  
Pat Gilbert ran into 'personal problems' (we ALL have them sometimes),
and because of this the race never happened. He is not the kind of person
who would intentionally put on a race knowing it would never happen. I think
there will be some (BIASED) article on him in next month's Triathlete Mag.
There will be no Hammerhead this year, nor will there be any of the other
FUN races which Patrick's colorful personality as a race director enhanced.
I think there is some effort being made to refund people's money; check in
the past couple months of all the tri-geek mags; there is an address to
write to somewhere. If I find it, I'll post it.   -Ian
Oh BTW a huge rainstorm wiped out a significant portion of the bike
course last year anyway.    :)
 
 
 

Hammerhead 1/2 IM in Aptos,CA

Post by Jeffrey Justi » Tue, 20 Feb 1996 04:00:00


Quote:

>> The Hammerhead was a great race when it existed. Unfortunately, last year,  
>> Pat Gilbert ran into 'personal problems' (we ALL have them sometimes),
>> and because of this the race never happened. He is not the kind of person
>> who would intentionally put on a race knowing it would never happen. I think
>> there will be some (BIASED) article on him in next month's Triathlete Mag.
>> There will be no Hammerhead this year, nor will there be any of the other
>> FUN races which Patrick's colorful personality as a race director enhanced.

Hi Ian,
Thanks for sharing.
Yes, there is a report  upcoming on Northwind and the Hammerhead episode
in Triathlete.

I researched and wrote it.

What makes you proclaim it on rst as biased before you've even seen it?
Little tremors in Santa Cruz?

I wonder if your post is just a little biased?

I have no beef with Pat Gilbert, your right he is a colorful personality,
but I'm not his cheerleader  either.

--
JJ

Jeffrey Justice
Oceanside, CA

 
 
 

Hammerhead 1/2 IM in Aptos,CA

Post by Aram Yelli » Wed, 21 Feb 1996 04:00:00


Quote:
> >Marc

> The Hammerhead was a great race when it existed. Unfortunately, last year,  
> Pat Gilbert ran into 'personal problems' (we ALL have them sometimes),
> and because of this the race never happened. He is not the kind of person
> who would intentionally put on a race knowing it would never happen. I think
> there will be some (BIASED) article on him in next month's Triathlete Mag.
> There will be no Hammerhead this year, nor will there be any of the other
> FUN races which Patrick's colorful personality as a race director enhanced.
> I think there is some effort being made to refund people's money; check in
> the past couple months of all the tri-geek mags; there is an address to
> write to somewhere. If I find it, I'll post it.   -Ian
> Oh BTW a huge rainstorm wiped out a significant portion of the bike
> course last year anyway.    :)

Ian,
        I know all about the HammerHead Triathlon.  I entered and lost my
money to Patrick Gilbert.  I followed up on it and tried to find out what
had happened.  It didn't sound good to Pat.  I don't know Patrick so I
can't assume he wouldn't do something dumb.  My question didn't the race
do on anyway?  Normally you have to schedule things well in advance.  If
all of that had been done the race could have still gone on without him.  
Nothing was done. There was no race.  So until we find out from the
"horses mouth" we can only say he never planned the race.
        What may I ask makes this article in Trialthete Mag. "biased"?
        That address you may have seen was the court house in Santa
Cruz.  I posted that a while ago.  It was posted in an effort to try to
get people to send in copies of there cashed checks.

Marc

 
 
 

Hammerhead 1/2 IM in Aptos,CA

Post by Aram Yelli » Wed, 21 Feb 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

> This USED to be a fabulous race. The last I heard, it is no more. I sent
> them my money last year, the race was canceled, and I have yet to receive
> a refund. The race director is in some sort of trouble (which will remain
> unspecified by me as I only have sketchy details). To his credit, I did
> receive a letter from him expressing his intentions to refund all (around
> 20) people who paid for last year and did not race. Sorry for the bad
> news...

> myke

> --
> Tellmesomethingidontknowtellmesomethingicanusepushthebuttonconnectthegoddamndots

Myke,
        Well I doubt you'll ever see your money again.  Patrick did make
one goodwill effort to inform people he was going to pay everyone back
and return over 200 uncashed checks he still had, but nothing ever
happened.  Infact he even cashed or tried to cash several checks several
months after he sent that letter out.  

MArc

 
 
 

Hammerhead 1/2 IM in Aptos,CA

Post by Kurian Davi » Thu, 22 Feb 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

>Myke,
>    Well I doubt you'll ever see your money again.  Patrick did make
>one goodwill effort to inform people he was going to pay everyone back
>and return over 200 uncashed checks he still had, but nothing ever
>happened.  Infact he even cashed or tried to cash several checks several
>months after he sent that letter out.  

>MArc

   Hmm. Santa Cruz DA told me only 60 checks were ever at issue.
   Which is it, Mark? Cashed or tried to cash? I suspect you have as much
evidence of these "facts" as you have presented for others.
   Put up or shut up and take your warnings to e-mail, will you? The
Hammerhead no longer exists. You've trolled the ng for other victims several
times already. This really has little relevance remaining at this point.
   At least until Jeffrey's article hits the stands.  =:-o

Kurian Davis

 
 
 

Hammerhead 1/2 IM in Aptos,CA

Post by Richard Thompso » Fri, 23 Feb 1996 04:00:00

I didn't lose my money. It got sent back via returned mail, of
course after I cancelled the check.  Anyway, I agree the race is
probably bad news.  But the "Snapperhead Du" was a good fun race.
 Its too bad, Northwind could use some new *** to re-start
these fun races.

--
Richard Thompson        

 
 
 

Hammerhead 1/2 IM in Aptos,CA

Post by Jeffrey Justi » Fri, 23 Feb 1996 04:00:00


Quote:


>> >Myke,
>> >       Well I doubt you'll ever see your money again.  Patrick did make
>> >one goodwill effort to inform people he was going to pay everyone back
>> >and return over 200 uncashed checks he still had, but nothing ever
>> >happened.  Infact he even cashed or tried to cash several checks several
>> >months after he sent that letter out.  

>> >MArc

>>    Hmm. Santa Cruz DA told me only 60 checks were ever at issue.
>>    Which is it, Mark? Cashed or tried to cash? I suspect you have as much
>> evidence of these "facts" as you have presented for others.
>>    Put up or shut up and take your warnings to e-mail, will you? The
>> Hammerhead no longer exists. You've trolled the ng for other victims several
>> times already. This really has little relevance remaining at this point.
>>    At least until Jeffrey's article hits the stands.  =:-o

I chose to research and write about this incident because I felt it was
interesting, although tragic, and unique in US triathlon. My short article
in the next issue of Triathlete focuses on some of the the events leading
to the Hammerhead incident.

I feel that I was objective/neutral on the latest incident, though I'm
sure some will not perceive it as such. That's OK, too.

There is a lot of distance and bickering between the Patrick Gilbert Fan
Club, which has been working rst for over a year (and I'm not referring to
Kurian), and those athletes who feel he wronged them.

Fact is: All Patrick Gilbert's latest doings are a matter of public
record. It doesn't take a great deal of detective work to track the actual
facts down.  There is a significant police record and the Santa Cruz
Sentinel newspaper has quite a file on the man.  What is the mystery?
Maybe my article will save you some phone calls.

--
JJ

Jeffrey Justice
Oceanside, CA