Lloyd, your apparent lack of professionalism in the way you are handling
this issue throught the rec.sport.triathlon site makes me wonder if your
attitude and lack of ability in communicating constructively with others has
caused part of your business problem. You may not be trying to recover
money, but it sure appears you are blowing some by continuing your
I read RST articles in search of better training methods and tips on how to
advance my performance, not to receive updates about manufacturer and
distributor legal litigations. If you're looking for a forum to vent, go
talk to your attorney or post your ***on rec.bicycles.tech. IF YOU DON'T
HAVE CONSTRUCTIVE COMMENTS...DON'T POST!
For the rest of us... isn't there a RST newgroup administrator that can make
the call to block out this junk if it continues. This is the third or
fourth discussion thread that Lloyd has started allegations and disrupted
unless this ends. I'm one for free speak, but come on. Some of this junk
is borderline slander/libel and deformation when it impacts others
| Like I said, I dont care personally and in case you cant read I am not
| trying to recover money!!!!!
| Can you understand that??
| I have written my debt off a long time ago, I am caught up in actions that
| dont really care about but know that other on this newsgroup may be
| and contrary to what some people may dream, goods that are obtained by
| theft, be it fraud etc are recoverable under US Federal Laws.
| > Lloyd, I have no idea the nature of your complaint, but until I receive
| > legal notification that our company is involved in any type of legal
| > I don't think I am going to get involved or take sides in a matter of
| > does not really concern us.
| > I do know that the cycling and triathlon industry is very dynamic, I
| > every company that we deal with has changed ownership hands, or
| > financial difficulty at some time. Quintana Roo, Ironman, Litespeed,
| > Kestrel, Mongoose, Schwinn, Softride, the list goes on, and on. There
| > always risk in conducting business. I don't think this is the proper
| > for financial disputes or accusations to be tossed about. You may have
| > very legitimate claim but I don't think our company can help you, and I
| > don't think anyone in the news group can help you collect any debt that
| > may be owed unless they happen to be a collections attorney.
| > I think that the news group is a great forum for dissemination of
| > information. If a race is really gone well, I'd love to hear about it,
| > if a race has been really screwed up I might not be so interested in
| > attending but I don't want to hear about a personal dispute an
| > might have with a race director. I think most intelligent readers will
| > able to distinguish between an honest opinion, good or bad, and a
| > attack or malicious posting just to hurt the referenced business. If
| > have something factual to post that is in the interest of the readers
| > do so, but if your mad because you think your business has been
| > I personally don't think I can help.
| > Just my humble opinion,
| > > No but you are listed as one of their dealers who if you sold a frame
| > > was listed as part of the credit card fraud just might end up paying
| > > others mistakes, would it be so funny then.
| > >
| > > Take the "piss" out of me anytime as to be honest I deserve it, I was
| > stupid
| > > enough to trust these people so I deserve what I got but think about
| > > other people, and companies involved.
| > >
| > >
| > > Lloyd