swim/bike or bike/run?

swim/bike or bike/run?

Post by Shuff » Wed, 28 Jan 1998 04:00:00


Being in my first year of triathlons, and also being lazy (or are the two
mutually exclusive?) I was wondering how best to maximise my training.  

The area which needs the most improvement is swimming, and as a consequence I
am concentrating a lot on that.  My running is improving (at least in
training) and my cycling is fair enough.  My running is good in training as
opposed to in a race because during races my legs are tired and I'm just not
used to running off the bike.  Evidently I need to get into some bike/run
bricks as I know these will help a lot.

What is not clear to me is the benefit of doing swim/bike bricks.  Is there
much benefit other than practicing transitions?  Aren't the muscles (limbs)
used in swimming different to those used in cycling, and therefore not
depleted to a level whereby conditioning (thru bricks) is required?

The reason I ask these question is that I want to maximise my training, and
to do an 'unnecessary' brick will not help me to achieve this.

Any thoughts?

Shuffla

 
 
 

swim/bike or bike/run?

Post by Paul Robbsha » Wed, 28 Jan 1998 04:00:00

You need to do both.  For the swim/bike session all the *** is in your upper
body and you need to condition your body to 'transfer' the *** as quickle as
possible and be used to doing it.  For the bike/run transition you are using
different muscles and once again need to get your body used to it - however there
is major benefit in spinning the last couple of km's at 90+rpm as you will find
that your running cadence out of the transition will be about this.
Personally I only do short distances out of the transition when doing my brick
sessions as if I am fit for the discipline I am doing then that is good enough.
Brick sessions are just to condition the body for '*** transfer'.

All the above is my own thoughts based on my own experiences - if it sounds okay
then try it, if not ditch it.

Quote:

> Being in my first year of triathlons, and also being lazy (or are the two
> mutually exclusive?) I was wondering how best to maximise my training.

> The area which needs the most improvement is swimming, and as a consequence I
> am concentrating a lot on that.  My running is improving (at least in
> training) and my cycling is fair enough.  My running is good in training as
> opposed to in a race because during races my legs are tired and I'm just not
> used to running off the bike.  Evidently I need to get into some bike/run
> bricks as I know these will help a lot.

> What is not clear to me is the benefit of doing swim/bike bricks.  Is there
> much benefit other than practicing transitions?  Aren't the muscles (limbs)
> used in swimming different to those used in cycling, and therefore not
> depleted to a level whereby conditioning (thru bricks) is required?

> The reason I ask these question is that I want to maximise my training, and
> to do an 'unnecessary' brick will not help me to achieve this.

> Any thoughts?

> Shuffla

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swim/bike or bike/run?

Post by David Barcl » Wed, 28 Jan 1998 04:00:00

        This bike/run bricks are by far the most imporant, but yes, do not
neglect the swim/bike bricks as well. I find after a long swim it takes me
a couple of kilometers before I really feel like I have any power in my
legs. When swimming with a wetsuit, I hardly use my legs, and most of my
*** is in my upper body. Last year, when it was possible in the summer,
I did one swim/bike brick a week as compared to three bike/runs. To
conclude: it is important to do the swim/bike bricks, but I find one a
week should suffice.

Yours

David Barclay

IMC 1997: 11:55:59
Triathlon: "Swim, Bike, Crawl"

 
 
 

swim/bike or bike/run?

Post by Iron Pe » Thu, 29 Jan 1998 04:00:00

Go with the bike/run bricks. Nothing is harsher on a beginner than running
after cycling. I think it's safe that most people here  can remember their
first triathlon and how tough that run was afterward. To get these done should
better your chances for a faster, more comfortable run.

"Iron Pete" Priolo

IMC'96 - 10:36:37    IMC'97 - 10:42:53

'98 - Gulf Coast Tri, IMC - confirmed
'98 - Buffalo Springs Lake Tri, Blackwater Eagleman - unconfirmed

 
 
 

swim/bike or bike/run?

Post by Stuart Jacobs » Fri, 30 Jan 1998 04:00:00

After 4 years in the sport I have never done a swim/ride brick except
for racing and I now find that I never do ride /run bricks except for
racing.

I do always do long ride sat long run sunday that gives you a run with
tired legs feel.

YMMV

Stuart

IMA 10:03:58

Quote:

>    This bike/run bricks are by far the most imporant, but yes, do not
>neglect the swim/bike bricks as well. I find after a long swim it takes me
>a couple of kilometers before I really feel like I have any power in my
>legs. When swimming with a wetsuit, I hardly use my legs, and most of my
>*** is in my upper body. Last year, when it was possible in the summer,
>I did one swim/bike brick a week as compared to three bike/runs. To
>conclude: it is important to do the swim/bike bricks, but I find one a
>week should suffice.
>Yours
>David Barclay

>IMC 1997: 11:55:59
>Triathlon: "Swim, Bike, Crawl"

 
 
 

swim/bike or bike/run?

Post by Karl Edmar » Fri, 30 Jan 1998 04:00:00


Quote:
>After 4 years in the sport I have never done a swim/ride brick except
>for racing and I now find that I never do ride /run bricks except for
>racing.

>I do always do long ride sat long run sunday that gives you a run with
>tired legs feel.

>YMMV

>Stuart

>IMA 10:03:58

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