Sea swimming

Sea swimming

Post by Lieffering, Ma » Mon, 19 Dec 1994 12:05:07


I have just finished my first sea swimming triathlon, at Sumner,
Christchurch, N.Z.  Though not long (nominally 500m), I was full of
apprehension before the swim, being a beginner swimmer etc.
However with my borrowed 7mm diving suit (minus the jacket bit) I
felt that I could at least dog paddle the course.  The course was
a triangle, out, along the shore and back in.  The main problem I
had and hence my question(s) was that there was a fairly large
breaking swell (1m+) with the waves about 10m (??) apart during
the whole part of the swim.  I am a pretty slow swimmer who likes
to think about technique, but in the conditions on the day I found
I had to throw all my new found knowledge out the window and
basically keep my head up for navigating and avoiding getting
swamped.  As a consequence I was practicing what I think has been
labelled the `Tarzan' crawl for the whole swim and I was pretty
knackered towards the end.  My philosophy was to be comfortable
and survive.  I had tried one previous sea swim for training but conditions
today were totally diferent Does anyone out there have any hints on how to
handle these conditions?  All attempts to keep proper body and head position
seemed in vain as the water level kept changing.  Is it `normal' to do the
whole swim in this style or is it better to attempt orthodox swimming and
go `through' the swells?

I think the swim was short in distance - my time of 9 min would
have been a PB in the pool.  The rest of the race went as planned
- finally managed to average over 35kmh over 20k!!

Mark

 
 
 

Sea swimming

Post by Robert Lieffering, Earth Sciences Dep » Tue, 20 Dec 1994 06:02:43

Quote:

> I think the swim was short in distance - my time of 9 min would
> have been a PB in the pool.  The rest of the race went as planned
> - finally managed to average over 35kmh over 20k!!

                                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Now this is what I call great running eh?  ;^)

Rob

 
 
 

Sea swimming

Post by Ian L Harp » Tue, 20 Dec 1994 18:07:34

A major problem with some of these ocean swims is the race directors
wimp out and so you go out about 25 yards, then swim paralell to
shore for a half mile, and then back, running into people. Maybe
they are afraid of people going out too far into the ocean. Lake swims
are always triangular-- what's the deal?  A bad example was this past
year's Santa Barbara triathlon. Waves were literally breaking on the
second half of the swim. I thought I would barf. Even though it was a
great run event and great bike course, I doubt I will ever do that
race again. Anyway, I am already registered for another race that weekend
next year.
:-)    -Ian

 
 
 

Sea swimming

Post by Pat Br » Fri, 23 Dec 1994 01:42:15


Quote:

> A major problem with some of these ocean swims is the race directors
> wimp out and so you go out about 25 yards, then swim paralell to
> shore for a half mile, and then back, running into people. Maybe
> they are afraid of people going out too far into the ocean....

Regarding swimming parallel to shore, I think they are worried about
people drowing or being caught in rip-tides etc...

Actually, the way most of the ocean swims were run in the Florida/Alabama
area is you would walk down the beach the 1/2 mi - 1 mi from the swim
exit; swim out about 50 - 100 yds; swim parallel to the shore for the
major distance; then swim  to shore at the swim exit.  Note: everyone was
always (supposed to be) swimming in the same direction so there was none
of the collisions that you alluded to.  Maybe you should suggest this to
these particular race directors?

Pat

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Sea swimming

Post by TRIATHLE » Fri, 23 Dec 1994 02:38:17

Quote:

>I have just finished my first sea swimming triathlon, at Sumner,
>Christchurch, N.Z.  Though not long (nominally 500m), I was full of
>apprehension before the swim, being a beginner swimmer etc.
>However with my borrowed 7mm diving suit (minus the jacket bit) I
>felt that I could at least dog paddle the course.  The course was
>a triangle, out, along the shore and back in.  The main problem I
>had and hence my question(s) was that there was a fairly large
>breaking swell (1m+) with the waves about 10m (??) apart during
>the whole part of the swim.  I am a pretty slow swimmer who likes
>to think about technique, but in the conditions on the day I found
>I had to throw all my new found knowledge out the window and
>basically keep my head up for navigating and avoiding getting
>swamped.  As a consequence I was practicing what I think has been
>labelled the `Tarzan' crawl for the whole swim and I was pretty
>knackered towards the end.  My philosophy was to be comfortable
>and survive.  I had tried one previous sea swim for training but conditions
>today were totally diferent Does anyone out there have any hints on how to
>handle these conditions?  All attempts to keep proper body and head position
>seemed in vain as the water level kept changing.  Is it `normal' to do the
>whole swim in this style or is it better to attempt orthodox swimming and
>go `through' the swells?

>I think the swim was short in distance - my time of 9 min would
>have been a PB in the pool.  The rest of the race went as planned
>- finally managed to average over 35kmh over 20k!!

>Mark
>To Mark

From Mark F(no joke)
I am mainly a sprint plus type triathlete. Sprint being .25mi swim, 9mi bike , 3mi run; plus being up to
3/4 mi swim, 25mi bike and a 5.5mi run. I solve the problem( remember this is one man's opinion) by either
drafting someone who is going straight and hope you don't end up in Guam. Or time your sight checks to be
at the top of the swells. Just to let you know I have never come out of the water first or won any races,
this info is coming from people who constantly beat me out of the water. Keep Triing!!!!!!
mark F( nice talking to myself)