*Wanting* to train vs *needing* to train

*Wanting* to train vs *needing* to train

Post by Rolf Aran » Sat, 21 Feb 1998 04:00:00


This is a long diatribe on *wanting* to train versus
*needing* to train.
---
Early February. Burned out. Tired. Grouchy. Feet hurt.
Caught a cold.

15 days ago, my thoughts:
"I need to train. I have an Ironman coming up in 6
 months. I don't want to have another flat IMC.
 My friends will think something is wrong. I need
 to train. I am losing all my fitness. Now I've got a
 damned cold. I gotta get some workout time in. My feet
 are almost pain free, but damn it, the clock is
 ticking. Maybe I should risk it..."

Cold logic intervenes, in the voice of Obi Wan Kenobi:
"You are overtrained, you idiot. You have a cold.
 You are tired, grouchy, not moving forward within
 your training. Your last few swims were pathetic.
 You need to take some rest. Back off. You won't
 lose, you will only gain. You need to get rest to
 give your body time to heal from all the hard training.
 Otherwise, you'll get caught into an endless spiral
 of colds again. Back off. Wait until you want to
 train again. You will know when you *want* to train.
 Until then, just rest. Trust your body. It will
 tell you."

So, I rest, and rest, and rest. I interject a workout
or two, and struggle through them. My friend Dave calls
and a few days later remarked how "dull, down, & tired"
I sounded.

I felt the *need* to train, but the thought of even
1 minute of exercise kills me. I wait another day. Nope,
not ready. On Wednesday, I go to the gym and it is packed.
I cannot even find a locker. I bag it and go home. Just
as well. I am really beat. Another total rest day. I am
getting depressed. The battle is between the need to train
and the need to rest.

Thursday. I decide to swim. About 10 days out of the pool.
I get in. I swim. It is magical, refreshing, dare I say
fun? I enjoy my 1 mile swim, and I designed a nice little
workout scheme to boot. Later, I run in the pool, and I notice
how my legs feel strong, fresh, ache-free, and lively.

And today. I swam again, an identical workout to yesterday,
with a nice drop in times. In fact, the times at the end
of my workout today were slightly better than my best times
in the weeks before "my break." And I did a nice little
indoor bike workout, feeling better at the end than the
beginning. And, my legs and hips are pain and ache-free.

Needing to train is a chore, unless I *want* to train.

Right now, I want to train. When that wanes, it is time
for a break. Lesson learned.

-Rolf

--
I am Iron Mac.
           The Ironman is over in the blink of an eye.
                                                   Enjoy it!
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*Wanting* to train vs *needing* to train

Post by Trid » Sat, 21 Feb 1998 04:00:00



Quote:
> This is a long diatribe on *wanting* to train versus
> *needing* to train.
> ---
> Early February. Burned out. Tired. Grouchy. Feet hurt.
> Caught a cold.

> 15 days ago, my thoughts:
> "I need to train. I have an Ironman coming up in 6
>  months. I don't want to have another flat IMC.
>  My friends will think something is wrong. I need
>  to train. I am losing all my fitness. Now I've got a
>  damned cold. I gotta get some workout time in. My feet
>  are almost pain free, but damn it, the clock is
>  ticking. Maybe I should risk it..."

snip....

Quote:
> Needing to train is a chore, unless I *want* to train.

> Right now, I want to train. When that wanes, it is time
> for a break. Lesson learned.

Boy do I know this story.  I have not yet trained for an Ironman
(99?), but I am an overtraining specialist.  If this is good,
faster, harder, or more must be better.

I started SERIOUS training back in October last year.  For much
of this winter I was running more than I had planned, without
much biking or swimming. The first of this year I vowed to
change that, and I started doing my workouts with greater
seriousness, and beginning February, I found my self overtrained
and running twice the mileage of my training plan. This was the
longest period before I have gotten overtrained since I started
triathlon training several years ago.  Oh, and it has been my
healthiest winter in years.

I took a couple of days off, went back to strictly following the
plan, and voile, I PR'd at a local 5k.

I think its time for me to stick with the plan.

--
Rob Blomquist aka TriDog
Seattle, WA
http://www.accessone.com/~robb
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*Wanting* to train vs *needing* to train

Post by legen » Sun, 22 Feb 1998 04:00:00

Rolf "Iron Mac (used to be "Ironman" back in the ol' days)" Arands,

Remember a few months back you were talking about enjoying the new
running shoes you bought, specifically the Reebok DMX 10's?  Are you
still using them?  How did you like them?  How are they holding up,
cushion-wise and quality-wise?

I was tempted to grab a pair at the time, but for some reason I
passed...well, my Air Max's are just about done now, so I was wondering
what your final prognosis was before I went for it...

Thanks for any info Rolf!

Nick Paquette


 
 
 

*Wanting* to train vs *needing* to train

Post by SBRMJ » Sun, 22 Feb 1998 04:00:00

Rolf,
You are right on......I have just come off sort of a similar week.....a bit of
a cold, no real motivation to keep at it after a month of "big" (well....)
buildup mileage.  Took off almost  a week, started feeling a bit better, and am
actually looking forward to getting back at it instead of worrying about what I
hadn't been doing....

Perspective IS everything!:)
Mark

 
 
 

*Wanting* to train vs *needing* to train

Post by Lou Segui » Sun, 22 Feb 1998 04:00:00

Hey Nick,

I've been running both the DMX's and a pair of AirMax Tailwind's.  IMHO
the DMX's are by far the most comfortable shoe I've ever worn. Both
shoes are of very high quality (although I understand from other runners
that Nike has had problems with moisture getting into the air pockets).
However, I find the AirMax to be my preferred shoe - quality and fit are
very good - maybe not as good as the DMX - but running comfort was
slightly superior.  

Hope this helps in your decision making.

Lou (IMwannabee)

Quote:
> Remember a few months back you were talking about enjoying the new
> running shoes you bought, specifically the Reebok DMX 10's?  Are you
> still using them?  How did you like them?  How are they holding up,
> cushion-wise and quality-wise?

> I was tempted to grab a pair at the time, but for some reason I
> passed...well, my Air Max's are just about done now, so I was wondering
> what your final prognosis was before I went for it...

> Thanks for any info Rolf!

> Nick Paquette


 
 
 

*Wanting* to train vs *needing* to train

Post by Chaz The T » Sun, 22 Feb 1998 04:00:00

Quote:

>Rolf,
>You are right on......I have just come off sort of a similar week.....a bit of
>a cold, no real motivation to keep at it after a month of "big" (well....)
>buildup mileage.  Took off almost  a week, started feeling a bit better, and am
>actually looking forward to getting back at it instead of worrying about what I
>hadn't been doing....

>Perspective IS everything!:)
>Mark

Man, it musta been some kinda triathlete training kharma, 'cause I had my
crappiest week of training so far this year...I got lousy short non-restful
sleeps on a couple nights and ended up DNF'ing at least two of my workouts
(Computrainer workouts after work)...and today's Wildflower CT workout, I
hammered the hell out of that course sim, and learned what it means to
have NOTHING left for a run brick...I went about two miles and cashed it
in. Not only that, I just ate plain crappy (I think 'cause I've fat starved my
body for the last month at 10%) this week as well.
   I feel like I ought to do a "penance" 10 mile run tommorrow, but  along the
lines of this thread, I think I'll just relax and enjoy CABDA, QR/HED show,
and my day off.  After all, it's just one week of training out of many many
more prior to Wildflower and Vineman... I'll switch my fresh
perspective on for next week & hope for the best.
Train happy!
Chaz
 
 
 

*Wanting* to train vs *needing* to train

Post by e.. » Sun, 22 Feb 1998 04:00:00


Quote:

> This is a long diatribe on *wanting* to train versus
> *needing* to train.
> ---
> Early February. Burned out. Tired. Grouchy. Feet hurt.
> Caught a cold.

If illness is a necessary symptom of overtraining, then I have never
been overtrained.  I have a peculiar gene that leaves me immune to
colds and flu and that sort of thing.  Oddly, I have never had anything
except mechanical errors in my system.  You know, messed up cartilages,
ligaments, tendons, that sort of thing.  But approximately once every
three weeks I get a TBF* attack that is instantly recognizable among my
lane mates.  Anyone can see how I feel.  I give in to such attacks and
within 24 hours of reduced activity it's all over and I'm feeling
better than ever.  In addition to a bit of rest, my recovery is much
aided by judicious amounts of chocolate, oysters on the half shell, and
a bottle of Merlot.

*TBF: Total Body Faiure

Ruth "Overdo" Kazez

 
 
 

*Wanting* to train vs *needing* to train

Post by Mike Tenne » Mon, 23 Feb 1998 04:00:00

Quote:

>This is a long diatribe on *wanting* to train versus
>*needing* to train.
>---
>Early February. Burned out. Tired. Grouchy. Feet hurt.
>Caught a cold.

I wasn't overtrained and I STILL managed to catch a cold this week  :{

But I went through some of the same mental gymnastics, for the same
reasons. IMC is coming... Should I train throught the cold and risk
maiking it worse?  Take it easy and treat it as a rest week?

Rest won.  I figure a week off now ain't gonna hurt.

Mike "TriBop" Tennent
http://SportToday.org/~wbrunner/

WebRunner Running
My Model Railroad
'98 Ironman Canada Iron***s Site

 
 
 

*Wanting* to train vs *needing* to train

Post by Laura Dickinson Le » Tue, 24 Feb 1998 04:00:00

Oh, this rings so true...must be the tri 'flu bug. Had to take off last
Monday through Thursday with the 'flu. Knew I shouldn't train, yet still felt
guilty on Monday. On Tues., said the heck with it, I need rest. Didn't do any
workouts until Friday, then only 1/3 of a normal swim session. By Sunday I
felt great and did a 70 mile bike.
        Moral: listen to your body -- if you think you need rest -- you do!

Quote:


> >Rolf,
> >You are right on......I have just come off sort of a similar week.....a bit of
> >a cold, no real motivation to keep at it after a month of "big" (well....)
> >buildup mileage.  Took off almost  a week, started feeling a bit better, and am
> >actually looking forward to getting back at it instead of worrying about what I
> >hadn't been doing....

> >Perspective IS everything!:)
> >Mark

> Man, it musta been some kinda triathlete training kharma, 'cause I had my
> crappiest week of training so far this year...I got lousy short non-restful
> sleeps on a couple nights and ended up DNF'ing at least two of my workouts
> (Computrainer workouts after work)...and today's Wildflower CT workout, I
> hammered the hell out of that course sim, and learned what it means to
> have NOTHING left for a run brick...I went about two miles and cashed it
> in. Not only that, I just ate plain crappy (I think 'cause I've fat starved my
> body for the last month at 10%) this week as well.
>    I feel like I ought to do a "penance" 10 mile run tommorrow, but  along the
> lines of this thread, I think I'll just relax and enjoy CABDA, QR/HED show,
> and my day off.  After all, it's just one week of training out of many many
> more prior to Wildflower and Vineman... I'll switch my fresh
> perspective on for next week & hope for the best.
> Train happy!
> Chaz

 
 
 

*Wanting* to train vs *needing* to train

Post by Tricia Richt » Thu, 26 Feb 1998 04:00:00

In article

Quote:


> >This is a long diatribe on *wanting* to train versus
> >*needing* to train.
> >---
> >Early February. Burned out. Tired. Grouchy. Feet hurt.
> >Caught a cold.

> I wasn't overtrained and I STILL managed to catch a cold this week  :{

Now this is creepy!  I, too, have a cold.  Went skiing this past weekend
with a bunch of friends, and on Saturday morning one of them woke up with
a cold.  My immediate thought was, "Oh, F**K, you know what that
means---it's inevitable."  And I was right.  So on top of three days spent
skiing and not training, I come home from the mountains and, sure enough,
BOOM!  Sore throat, fatigue, headache, the works.  DAMMIT.

So, today is Wednesday; my last workout was an hour of lifting last
Thursday.  Looks like I won't be doing anything at least until Friday.
That's more than a week down the tube.  Ugh.

Quote:
> But I went through some of the same mental gymnastics, for the same
> reasons. IMC is coming... Should I train throught the cold and risk
> maiking it worse?  Take it easy and treat it as a rest week?

> Rest won.  I figure a week off now ain't gonna hurt.

I keep telling myself the same thing.  Take it easy, don't sweat it.  But
the spectre of Wildflower '97 is haunting me.  Quite honestly, that race
HURT.  I was completely unprepared because I suffered long bouts of
illness in November and January.  One of my big goals for '98 is to NOT
repeat my awful WF of last year.  It just makes it really tough to relax
right now.  May is not that far away.  And ***y El Nino ain't making
things any easier; I haven't ridden my bike on the road in a month, and
that's not good.  Wildflower requires that you have some really solid bike
miles under your tires.  

Am I nervous?   Naawwwww.....

Why can't I have Ruth's immune system?  Why the hell can't science come up
with a cure for the common cold?  Bleahhh!!  (yes, that's a rhetorical
question, don't anybody bother to answer it, I know the answer)

*sigh*

Tri-Baby

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