Open Water Swim Advice Please

Open Water Swim Advice Please

Post by John Cochra » Sat, 30 Jul 1994 17:14:32


Hi,

Against my better judgement I've been persuaded onto a Tri' relay team
for the following weekend (7th August) 1600M swim 40K bike 10K run

Now the swimming is no problem to be I'm a pretty active masters swimmer
and coach, I have zero experience of open water swims, so if anyone
could pass on any tips I'd be real grateful. Oh by the way its a lake
swim and I don't have a wet suit, but its been warm here the last couple
of weeks.

Also does anyone know how the organizational stuff for the change over
between team members work in these relay events

Thanks in anticiptation

John

 
 
 

Open Water Swim Advice Please

Post by Albert E. Cord » Wed, 03 Aug 1994 10:03:17

John,
        I think the best advise for an open water swim is to pick
your head up every few strokes so you can navigate effectively. My
biggest problem on my first open water swim was veering off to my
right resulting in my having to swim significantly longer than necessary.
Another tip is to draft on someone a bit faster than you are. (legal
in the swim). This saves a significant amount of energy. Good Luck!!
                        Al Cordes


 
 
 

Open Water Swim Advice Please

Post by Tom Rowla » Wed, 03 Aug 1994 21:06:44

: Hi,

: Against my better judgement I've been persuaded onto a Tri' relay team
: for the following weekend (7th August) 1600M swim 40K bike 10K run

: Now the swimming is no problem to be I'm a pretty active masters swimmer
: and coach, I have zero experience of open water swims, so if anyone
: could pass on any tips I'd be real grateful. Oh by the way its a lake
: swim and I don't have a wet suit, but its been warm here the last couple
: of weeks.
There are no lane lines so you need to watch where you are going. Most
open water swimmers raise their head up every seven strokes or so to see
where they are going. While you warm up for the swim try and pick out
landmarks that will help you do this quickly. Since the swim is so short
you may be able to swim the whole course before the race. I have seen some
relay guys do this at Gulf Coast and the swim there is 1.2 mi.
If you have not done this in practice yet try to swim 25 of several 100
free laps using a Tarzan stroke. This is where you do your regular free
stroke but keep your head out of the water looking straight ahead the
whole 25. I find it helps my flexibility in raising my head when I am in
open water. Dave Scott think wet suits are for weanies.

: Also does anyone know how the organizational stuff for the change over
: between team members work in these relay events
No advice here, relay people are always out of the water before me.

: Thanks in anticiptation
                   ^
I am sure you swim better than you spell.
: John
Good luck
Tom

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Open Water Swim Advice Please

Post by Pat Br » Wed, 03 Aug 1994 23:36:43


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Quote:
> Dave Scott think wet suits are for weanies...

Gee, I wonder if Dave wrote/said this before moving to Boulder.  I have
never done Evergreen, but have heard that the lake is considered warm if it
is above 60 deg F.  

I did do Aurora (eastern suburb of Denver) last September.   It snowed the
day before, the lake had already turned over, and it was reported there was
a skim of ice on the lake the evening before.  The water temp was 48 deg F
and the air temp in the morning was 35 deg F.

This obviously was the worst case scenario I could think of.  I didn't buy
a wetsuit until I moved to the rockies, but I consider it a necessity out
here (especially for fall races)

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Open Water Swim Advice Please

Post by David LaPorte (Bioch » Thu, 04 Aug 1994 01:07:33

: Against my better judgement I've been persuaded onto a Tri' relay team
: for the following weekend (7th August) 1600M swim 40K bike 10K run

[...]

: Also does anyone know how the organizational stuff for the change over
: between team members work in these relay events

I've done several relays.  The hand offs have been different in every
event and often vary from year to year for the same event.  Make sure you
get a clear ruling from the race director (not a volunteer) before the
race.  I've seen people DQed for improper hand offs.

The biggest issues are whether the biker can straddle the bike, whether
(s)he can have one foot clipped in and whether (s)he must come to a full
stop for the bike -> run hand off.

Although sometimes the officials are strict, sometimes they are pretty
casual.  Last year, the runner of one team left at least a minute or two
before the biker showed up.  (I don't think they were deliberately
cheating.  I think they were confused.)  Amazingly, they weren't DQed.  The
race director added a small time penalty, which he let the offenders
estimate.  My team was not pleased since we ended up in second place with
the offenders in first.

Dave LaPorte
U. of Minn.

 
 
 

Open Water Swim Advice Please

Post by John Cochra » Tue, 09 Aug 1994 17:28:44

: Hi,

: Against my better judgement I've been persuaded onto a Tri' relay team
: for the following weekend (7th August) 1600M swim 40K bike 10K run

Well, we did the race, and thanks to who that posted tips for the swim,
it was all very helpful.

We managed to come 3rd out of 9 relay teams in a time of 2 hours and 5 Mins
mostly down to our runner doing a pb of 34.01 for the 10K

I did the swim in 23 Minutes, which I was a little disapointed with, I
guess it just shows the difference that experience makes. As predicted
my biggest problem was navigation, even though I had been and swum
in the lake a couple of times the week before the race; my next
biggest problem was coping with all the other people in the water
swimming over, under and around me, a real shock to lane a swimmer.  

I must say I really enjoyed the event and will do the team thing
again next year, who knows they may even persuade me to take up
triathlon for real.

Thanks again for the help

John