Protocol for long-distance bike selling?

Protocol for long-distance bike selling?

Post by GBunde » Tue, 30 Mar 1999 04:00:00


Hi, everyone.

I could use some input from some of you who have sold bikes or equipment here
on RST...

How exactly do the seller and buyer usually arrange payment, shipping, etc.?
For example, if I am interested in selling a fairly expensive bike (which I
am), and I get an offer which is acceptable, how do I/we proceed from there?
Half payment in advance of shipment, then the other half when received?  Or is
there a better way?  Anyway, I would greatly appreciate any help you can offer.

Thanks in advance,

Greg

 
 
 

Protocol for long-distance bike selling?

Post by RocketSchwin » Tue, 30 Mar 1999 04:00:00

I have bought and sold many things on RST. The RST FAQ guidelines include
prefacing your ad with a FOR SALE: or FS: in the subject line, many readers
choose to filter out ads and do so by assuming a FS: exists in the subject
line.

As for what works, I usually put a price down that I know will sell. If you
try to get every last penny out of your sale item you'll be reposting here
time and time again, and there has been some recent off-group debate about
trying to come up with some reasonable guidelines as to how frequent a
reposting should be. As for money exchange, once you have made a deal, COD
works well, and it's a good way to protect your interests. Specify money
order and you don't have to worry about a check clearing. I've recently
begun buying and selling things by just sending a check or m.o. in advance
and letting the person send me the goods once received, but those have been
to persons whose names I recognize on the group all of the time, they
probably recognize mine too.
If you send your stuff UPS you get a nifty tracking number that you can keep
track of your order with, I usually ask the seller to email me the tracking
number when they send the goods, I can then go to www.ups.com and find out
exactly where my stuff is. You can also have your items insured with UPS
beyond their traditional amount by paying a little more. Get the buyer to
pay the fees or negotiate them with him/her.

I have NEVER had anything but great experiences by doing the above. In fact
the only time I had a bad remote buying experience was with a mail order
outfit in Dallas. Most of the people here on RST are as interested in
getting good bargains as you are, and keeping their reputations clean, so
dealing with them is usually pleasant. BUYER BEWARE, though. Better safe
than sorry. Keep that as a rule and you can't go wrong.

The one thing I always add to anything that I sell is that if what the buyer
received from me is not exactly as I had represented it to him/her I will
take it back with absolutely no objections. It's sometimes hard to describe
things over email and phones, and I've also learned that something that's a
small deal to me might be a huge deal to someone else, and vice versa. The
garuntee clause makes me feel reputable.

Good luck. Mike

Quote:

>Hi, everyone.

>I could use some input from some of you who have sold bikes or equipment
here
>on RST...

>How exactly do the seller and buyer usually arrange payment, shipping,
etc.?
>For example, if I am interested in selling a fairly expensive bike (which I
>am), and I get an offer which is acceptable, how do I/we proceed from
there?
>Half payment in advance of shipment, then the other half when received?  Or
is
>there a better way?  Anyway, I would greatly appreciate any help you can
offer.

>Thanks in advance,

>Greg


 
 
 

Protocol for long-distance bike selling?

Post by Brian Wagne » Tue, 30 Mar 1999 04:00:00

Quote:

> Hi, everyone.

> I could use some input from some of you who have sold bikes or equipment here
> on RST...

> How exactly do the seller and buyer usually arrange payment, shipping, etc.?
> For example, if I am interested in selling a fairly expensive bike (which I
> am), and I get an offer which is acceptable, how do I/we proceed from there?
> Half payment in advance of shipment, then the other half when received?  Or is
> there a better way?  Anyway, I would greatly appreciate any help you can offer.

> Thanks in advance,

> Greg

UPS COD. Simple, reliable, they don't deliver unless buyer pays them and
you can specify cashier's check/money order only.  It also protects the
buyer because, if he's not home, UPS won't just leave it on his front
step for someone to steal.

 
 
 

Protocol for long-distance bike selling?

Post by TRIN2T » Tue, 30 Mar 1999 04:00:00

I have used a company called Trade Direct and they are pretty good.  They don't
release funds or tell you to ship until they have the buyers money. The cost 5%
but it is worth it.  

Marc "the rookie"

 
 
 

Protocol for long-distance bike selling?

Post by Rick Denn » Wed, 31 Mar 1999 04:00:00


Quote:
>Hi, everyone.

>I could use some input from some of you who have sold bikes or equipment here
>on RST...

>How exactly do the seller and buyer usually arrange payment, shipping, etc.?
>For example, if I am interested in selling a fairly expensive bike (which I
>am), and I get an offer which is acceptable, how do I/we proceed from there?
>Half payment in advance of shipment, then the other half when received?  Or is
>there a better way?  Anyway, I would greatly appreciate any help you can offer.

COD, with a cash requirement. Make sure the buyer understands that
cash will be required. UPS will do this for a small extra fee.

Rick "The only foolproof method" Denney

 
 
 

Protocol for long-distance bike selling?

Post by Phil Squir » Wed, 31 Mar 1999 04:00:00

TCP/IP ?

Laughs sadly, shakes head and goes back to his studies.

Phil Squire
IM
http://w1.116.telia.com/~u11602093/home.html

Quote:

>Hi, everyone.

>I could use some input from some of you who have sold bikes or equipment
here
>on RST...

>How exactly do the seller and buyer usually arrange payment, shipping,
etc.?
>For example, if I am interested in selling a fairly expensive bike (which I
>am), and I get an offer which is acceptable, how do I/we proceed from
there?
>Half payment in advance of shipment, then the other half when received?  Or
is
>there a better way?  Anyway, I would greatly appreciate any help you can
offer.

>Thanks in advance,

>Greg

 
 
 

Protocol for long-distance bike selling?

Post by Brock » Wed, 31 Mar 1999 04:00:00

Another question....what protects the buyer, after paying cash COD, from
receiving mechandise that is not up to promised quality? When I
purchased some wheels and payed in this manner, I was not allowed to
inspect the package until I payed.

Now, buyer had unacceptable mechandise, seller has the cash. Luckily, I
loved the wheels, but, what if they weren't the quality as promised by
the seller?

Just wondering what can be done in this instance.

Brock

Quote:


> >Hi, everyone.

> >I could use some input from some of you who have sold bikes or equipment here
> >on RST...

> >How exactly do the seller and buyer usually arrange payment, shipping, etc.?
> >For example, if I am interested in selling a fairly expensive bike (which I
> >am), and I get an offer which is acceptable, how do I/we proceed from there?
> >Half payment in advance of shipment, then the other half when received?  Or is
> >there a better way?  Anyway, I would greatly appreciate any help you can offer.

> COD, with a cash requirement. Make sure the buyer understands that
> cash will be required. UPS will do this for a small extra fee.

> Rick "The only foolproof method" Denney

 
 
 

Protocol for long-distance bike selling?

Post by Rick Denn » Wed, 31 Mar 1999 04:00:00



Quote:
>Another question....what protects the buyer, after paying cash COD, from
>receiving mechandise that is not up to promised quality? When I
>purchased some wheels and payed in this manner, I was not allowed to
>inspect the package until I payed.

>Now, buyer had unacceptable mechandise, seller has the cash. Luckily, I
>loved the wheels, but, what if they weren't the quality as promised by
>the seller?

>Just wondering what can be done in this instance.

>Brock

Harass the seller, and if he doesn't make good, then take it up in
court if you feel that it's worth it. It's a risk inherent in buying
sight unseen from an unknown source, and you have to accept that risk.
If you can't tolerate such a risk (and many people can't), then buy
from your local bike shop. You'll pay more to avoid the risk, but
that's the way it's supposed to work.

Rick "But don't bring the ensuing argument to RST, heh, heh." Denney

 
 
 

Protocol for long-distance bike selling?

Post by Phil » Thu, 01 Apr 1999 04:00:00

Maybe I should have started another thread, but I have another question. Does
anyone have any experience selling or buying internationally via RST? I live
in Tokyo and would love a new frame and some wheels second hand.  It is
difficult to find second hand gear here. But I have been a little concerned
about the transaction. Is there anyone who has had any problems, or knows of
a foolproof method. Or is it essentially the same as within the US_?

Phil

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Quote:


> >Hi, everyone.

> >I could use some input from some of you who have sold bikes or equipment here
> >on RST...

> >How exactly do the seller and buyer usually arrange payment, shipping, etc.?
> >For example, if I am interested in selling a fairly expensive bike (which I
> >am), and I get an offer which is acceptable, how do I/we proceed from there?
> >Half payment in advance of shipment, then the other half when received?  Or is
> >there a better way?  Anyway, I would greatly appreciate any help you can offer.

> COD, with a cash requirement. Make sure the buyer understands that
> cash will be required. UPS will do this for a small extra fee.

> Rick "The only foolproof method" Denney

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Protocol for long-distance bike selling?

Post by Lyn Littl » Fri, 02 Apr 1999 04:00:00

Quote:

> TCP/IP ?

> Laughs sadly, shakes head and goes back to his studies.

This would fall under the subtype "non-sentient-non-life-form"
of RFC 1437.

--
Lyn

For the non-geeks: RFC (Request For Comment) are internet
standards documents. RFC 1437 describes the transport of
sentient-life-form type data as a mime attachment. Look it up.