Do you guy really take care of chinese human right?

Do you guy really take care of chinese human right?

Post by Huanquan Zhe » Sun, 19 Sep 1993 05:06:24


[ Article crossposted from talk.politics.china,soc.culture.china ]
[ Author was CHANGQING YANG ]
[ Posted on 17 Sep 1993 17:24:26 GMT ]

Note: The following is from today's CND-global. Chinese most well known
conscience prisoner Wei Jingsheng suports Beijing bid for 2000 olympics.

What are you thinking about human rights now?

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2. China's Olympic Delegation Left for Monte Carlo for Olympic Bid ....... 49
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Forwarded by: A CND Reader
Source: UPI, 9/16/93

children's chorus, received a boost from an unexpected source when recently
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freed dissident Wei Jingsheng threw his weight behind the bid.
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"I hope that Beijing's bid for the Olympics succeeds, but the right to
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decide it is up to the International Olympic Committee," the convalescing
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Wei was quoted by his brother as saying.
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"I think my view is probably the same as (President) Jiang Zemin," said the
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veteran democracy campaigner, released from prison Tuesday after more than
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14 years behind bars.
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Beijing's Olympic bid, thought to be one of the front-runners along with
Sydney, has come under fire from human rights groups and members of U.S.
Congress, who say China's abysmal human rights record should preclude it
from hosting the games.

Official Chinese surveys say that more than 91 percent of the population
supports the Olympic bid.

 
 
 

Do you guy really take care of chinese human right?

Post by Qi Yu Zha » Sun, 19 Sep 1993 06:28:27

Quote:

>Official Chinese surveys say that more than 91 percent of the population
>supports the Olympic bid.

This survey, or the way it is been phrased here is misleading to say the least.
Right now, it is not yet possible to do a random survey in China because
a vast majority of the population can not be properly reached via telephone
or modern efficient ways.  Surveys done by magazine ballots or in a sub-
population, for examle in Beijing, or other means often seen in China are
statistically biased, or at least should be remarked.  91% is an extraordinary
number statistically speaking.  No one explained how the "official" surveys
were conducted.  Quoting such a questionable survey result to support the
argument only makes the argument itself vulnerable.

Prejudice and biasedness exists in every human race.  Cultural difference
only makes it worse.  I find it un-necessary to react emotionally at least
in public everytime we hear criticism or even false accusation.  Sterotypes
are often from mis-understanding (often mis-led by the media), etc..
More explanation and reasoning may lead matters to satisfatory endings.

Those are just my humble opinions.

Qiyu Zhang

 
 
 

Do you guy really take care of chinese human right?

Post by chen, richa » Sun, 19 Sep 1993 06:54:00

[much deleted, but not out of context]

Quote:
>What are you thinking about human rights now?

>freed dissident Wei Jingsheng threw his weight behind the bid.
>*************************************************************

A dissident gets thrown in jail for saying Deng is an autocrat, is held in
prison for 10+ years, then gets released days before saying China should get
the Olympic games.

Quote:

>Official Chinese surveys say that more than 91 percent of the population
>supports the Olympic bid.

Did the UPI writer add this last line for irony?  If in fact the survey was
well conducted, I'm surprised 9% of the population knew that reasons not to
host the Games existed.  Dissidents offer dissenting information.  Not only
do dissidents have no means of publicizing their arguments and information,
they may easily get jailed for doing so.

Richard Chen

 
 
 

Do you guy really take care of chinese human right?

Post by Game of the XXVIIth Olympi » Wed, 22 Sep 1993 12:21:30


Quote:
Huanquan Zheng) writes:>[ Article crossposted from talk.politics.china,soc.

culture.china ]>[ Author was CHANGQING YANG ]

Quote:
>[ Posted on 17 Sep 1993 17:24:26 GMT ]
>Note: The following is from today's CND-global. Chinese most well known
>conscience prisoner Wei Jingsheng suports Beijing bid for 2000 olympics.
>What are you thinking about human rights now?
>Beijing's Olympic bid, thought to be one of the front-runners along with
>Sydney, has come under fire from human rights groups and members of U.S.
>Congress, who say China's abysmal human rights record should preclude it
>from hosting the games.
>Official Chinese surveys say that more than 91 percent of the population
>supports the Olympic bid.

What happen to the other 9%?  Maybe, they don't exist. :-)  But then
again, more than 91 percent can be 100 percent.  I remember the time
when there was a martial law in the country where I came from -- WE
CAN'T SAY ANYTHING AGAINST THE GOVERNMENT and if somebody did, then
bad luck...

regards,
tony

 
 
 

Do you guy really take care of chinese human right?

Post by Huanquan Zhe » Wed, 22 Sep 1993 19:53:05

Quote:
> What happen to the other 9%?  Maybe, they don't exist. :-)  But then
> again, more than 91 percent can be 100 percent.  I remember the time
> when there was a martial law in the country where I came from -- WE
> CAN'T SAY ANYTHING AGAINST THE GOVERNMENT and if somebody did, then
> bad luck...

What do you mean here? Do you mean the governer forced poeple
to say supportion?

Oh, what good idea it is! someone has already told me Mr. Wei
has been brain-washed by chinese governer. I guess he did not
read CND daily, today I get an info. that Mr. Wei will continue
to fight against CPP.