NBC Coverage

NBC Coverage

Post by Joel D Alvst » Thu, 30 Jul 1992 16:48:58


Just a brief comment on the coverage on the NBC network--

        Personally, I think it stinks.  I watched the majority of the coverage
on Sunday and Monday, but I work during the prime-time stuff.  When I return,
I flip on the late-night coverage.  I thought that Jim Lampley and Hannah Storm
did a MUCH better job than any of the other clowns (even though the comments on
the USA volleyball team's shaved heads got a little bit annoying).  At least
they're being straight-to-the-point about the goings on, unlike Costas, who is
seemingly more concerned about the USA's beloved Dream/Scream/Cream Team than
he is about any of the other events (strictly my opinion, but back-up is welcome).  I, too, would like to see some of the other events, such as soccer, water
polo, cycling, etc. instead of just the Dream Team, gymnastics, and swimming.
Actually, I don't mind swimming and gymnastics, but NBC really should show more
than just Shannon Miller and Kim Zmeskal.  Come on!!  From what I've heard, NBC
hasn't shown many members of other teams in ANY sport except, of course Hoops.
        Also, I think that NBC should pull its heads on straight and show the
medal ceremonies for ANY event, whether a US athlete wins or not (From what I'veread, it seems like many of you feel the same way).  I noticed that first after
the diving competition, when they didn't even show 13-year-olf Fu Mingxa receiveher gold!!  I was quite upset at NBC--didn't they at least show the medal
ceremonies in 1988??  Someone should complain, and I wish I knew who to reach!!
        Is it just me, or has there actually been fewer womens events shown on
NBC than mens??
        Finally, concerning the Cream Team, I hear that they're still a hot itemin Spain, with (from what NBC said) 10 USA boxing pins worth the same as one
Scream Team pin.  IMHO, with the ever present antics of Barkley, don't expect
the value to rise.  I really hope he gets tossed from a game and barred from
further competition.  Barkley's display against the mighty and fear-invoking
Angolan team left me no other option but to root for Croatia against the USA.
I don't hold a grudge against the likes of Bird, Mullin, Magic, Laettner (he
doesn't play enough to!), Robinson and Ewing.  All of them have displayed
sportsmanship that any American can be proud of.  As for the others, Pippen
and Jordan showboat WAY TOO MUCH.  Plus I didn't like Jordan trying to trash
talk to Petro and Kukoc--c'mon Mike, this is the Olympics, not the NBA!!
Drexler, from what I've seen, is the most selfish player on the team (which,  
now that I really give it some thought, may not be so bad--at least he's not  
being overly fancy).  Oops, I guess Malone is playing pretty well on a sportsmanlike level, but he does get physical.  Stockton hasn't played yet.  That leaves
us with Charles.  He plays hard, he plays dirty, he plays to win.  If he could
calm down a little bit, he'd be OK.
        Too bad it's going to take either an intra-squad rumble, a benching, or
a DQ from the games to do it!!

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Post by Ed Suran » Fri, 31 Jul 1992 01:34:28


Quote:
>Just a brief comment on the coverage on the NBC network--

>    Personally, I think it stinks.

I know I'm in a minority on this newsgroup, but I think it's all right.
Better than CBS's coverage of the Winter Olympics, for sure.  Certainly,
there are things that annoy me -- most particularly a waste of several
minutes every evening on the music video.  But those things I really
wanted to see so far -- swimming and gymnastics -- have been covered
pretty well.

It seems to be a tradition to complain about the US network (whichever
it may be) and its concentration on US athletes.  First, I don't
think it's as bad this time as it was in the past.  I've seen several
profiles of foreign athletes.  Don't you guys remember ABC's coverage
of the 1984 Los Angeles games?  That was MUCH worse.  Second, one
should expect a country's TV to focus on athletes from that country.
I was living in Montreal in 1976, and I assure you that the CBC was
as "biased" towards Canadians as ABC was towards Americans -- with
less reason, since few Canadians were medal contenders.

Quote:
>unlike Costas, who is
>seemingly more concerned about the USA's beloved Dream/Scream/Cream Team than
>he is about any of the other events (strictly my opinion, but back-up is
>welcome).

I think Costas is better than Bryant Gumbal was in Seoul, but not as good
as Jim McKay.  I know a lot of people disliked McKay, especially in his
later years, but he could wring an emotional moment for all it was worth.

Quote:
>    Also, I think that NBC should pull its heads on straight and show the
>medal ceremonies for ANY event, whether a US athlete wins or not
>(From what I'veread, it seems like many of you feel the same way).

I would agree with this, but I'm not sure it would be possible, especially
during the last few days of the games.  I went to some track and field
events in Montreal and it seemed that there was a medal ceremony every
fif*** minutes.

It DOES annoy me that when they do show a medal ceremony they tend to
only show the American and the American flag.  I think it would actually
be MORE "patriotic", if that's what they want, to show all three flags
with the US flag on top.

[I deleted the line where you asked if it was just you, or are men being
shown more than women.]

It depends on the sport.  In the team sports, what you say definitely
seems to be true.  But in gymnastics a lot more time was spent on the
women than on the men.

Ed


 
 
 

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Post by Bruce Glet » Fri, 31 Jul 1992 07:12:48


Quote:
>Just a brief comment on the coverage on the NBC network--
(Stuff deleted)
>    Also, I think that NBC should pull its heads on straight and show the
>medal ceremonies for ANY event, whether a US athlete wins or not (From what I'veread, it seems like many of you feel the same way).  I noticed that first after
>the diving competition, when they didn't even show 13-year-olf Fu Mingxa receiveher gold!!  I was quite upset at NBC--didn't they at least show the medal
>ceremonies in 1988??  Someone should complain, and I wish I knew who to reach!!

Why show the medal ceremonies at all??? They are truly boring. The whole thing
is tape delayed, show more events!!! If you want to hear national anthems,
buy a record/cd/tape!! I want to see competition!

 
 
 

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Post by Ed Suran » Sat, 01 Aug 1992 02:15:54

Quote:


>>I was quite upset at NBC--didn't they at least show the medal

>Why show the medal ceremonies at all??? They are truly boring.

Boring or not, it would be impossible to show ALL the medal ceremonies,
as some people have indicated that they would like.  It's still early
in the games, and yesterday 17 gold medals were given out.  At about ten
minutes per ceremony, it would have taken 170 minutes to show them
all -- obviously much too much time.  During the last few days, when
there will be lots of finals, there will be probably be around 30
medal ceremonies each day.  

Ed

 
 
 

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Post by Colin Morr » Sat, 01 Aug 1992 02:41:54

Quote:

>Why show the medal ceremonies at all??? They are truly boring. The whole thing
>is tape delayed, show more events!!! If you want to hear national anthems,
>buy a record/cd/tape!! I want to see competition!

Because NBC perceives that the "feel-good" American public wants to see
someone standing on the podium, tears in their eyes, hand on their
hearts, singing their National Anthem. They're merely pandering to the
patriotic hogwash that seems to surround this country, especially at
the time of the Olympics.

--

"And there'll be more football in a moment, but first we've got
 highlights of the Scottish League Cup Final" -- Gary Newbon

 
 
 

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Post by chuan » Sat, 01 Aug 1992 04:25:45

Quote:

> Boring or not, it would be impossible to show ALL the medal ceremonies,
> as some people have indicated that they would like.  It's still early
> in the games, and yesterday 17 gold medals were given out.  At about ten
> minutes per ceremony, it would have taken 170 minutes to show them
> all -- obviously much too much time.  During the last few days, when
> there will be lots of finals, there will be probably be around 30
> medal ceremonies each day.  

> Ed

I agree that it would be impossible to show all the medal ceremonies,
but ALL the ceremonies NBC has showed so far were those when Americans
winning the gold medals.  I want to see some gold medalists from other
countries, too. Such as, Fu Mingxia of China (the youngest gold medal
winner in this olympics).

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Department of CS
Rutgers University
New Brunswick
New Jersey
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Post by Eddie Che » Sat, 01 Aug 1992 05:45:03


Quote:

>I agree that it would be impossible to show all the medal ceremonies,
>but ALL the ceremonies NBC has showed so far were those when Americans
>winning the gold medals.  I want to see some gold medalists from other
>countries, too. Such as, Fu Mingxia of China (the youngest gold medal
>winner in this olympics).

        Well, I caught once when they show a ceremony with U.S. only won
a silver.  Throughout the ceremony, the camera is focused on the close up
of the U.S. athelete (with tears, of course).  Not a second to show other
people, including the gold winer, not a second to see the rising flags,
etc..

        So much for medal ceremonies.

    Eddie

 
 
 

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Post by Joel D Alvst » Sat, 01 Aug 1992 17:14:07

Quote:



>>>I was quite upset at NBC--didn't they at least show the medal

>>Why show the medal ceremonies at all??? They are truly boring.

>Boring or not, it would be impossible to show ALL the medal ceremonies,
>as some people have indicated that they would like.  It's still early
>in the games, and yesterday 17 gold medals were given out.  At about ten
>minutes per ceremony, it would have taken 170 minutes to show them
>all -- obviously much too much time.  During the last few days, when
>there will be lots of finals, there will be probably be around 30
>medal ceremonies each day.  

>Ed


Maybe I should clarify myself...
        What I really should have said was that if NBC is going to show the
medal ceremony, they should show ALL THREE competetors and ALL THREE flags
being raised.

Joel Alvstad
St. Olaf College
Northfield, MN

 
 
 

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Post by Ed Suran » Sun, 02 Aug 1992 03:35:27


Quote:
>Maybe I should clarify myself...
>    What I really should have said was that if NBC is going to show the
>medal ceremony, they should show ALL THREE competetors and ALL THREE flags
>being raised.

Now this is something I agree with WHOLEHEARTEDLY.  In fact, of all the
complaints about NBC's coverage that have been expressed on this
newsgroup, this is the only one that I strongly agree with.  As
I've said before, I think it would even be more "patriotic", if
that's what NBC wants, to show all three flags with the US flag
at the top.  Showing just the one flag, or the face of the one
competitor, gives no context to the overall scene.

Ed

 
 
 

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Post by Yin Zha » Sun, 02 Aug 1992 04:43:13

Quote:

>As I've said before, I think it would even be more "patriotic", if
>that's what NBC wants, to show all three flags with the US flag
>at the top.  Showing just the one flag, or the face of the one
>competitor, gives no context to the overall scene.

Are there many Americans out there who would like to see a medal
ceremony where an American athlete gets a silver or bronze medal,
where US flag is not at the top?  Maybe just a few seconds?

I wonder whether or not NBC's practice of not showing athlets from
other countries in medal ceremonies and not showing any footages of
medal ceremonies where Americans are not gold medallists (probably
with a couple of exceptions) really reflects the preference of most
American audience.

Just curious.

A non-American

 
 
 

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Post by Ed Suran » Sun, 02 Aug 1992 06:36:43

Quote:


>>As I've said before, I think it would even be more "patriotic", if
>>that's what NBC wants, to show all three flags with the US flag
>>at the top.  Showing just the one flag, or the face of the one
>>competitor, gives no context to the overall scene.

>Are there many Americans out there who would like to see a medal
>ceremony where an American athlete gets a silver or bronze medal,
>where US flag is not at the top?  Maybe just a few seconds?

Of course.  And NBC has shown a few of them -- not many, but a few.
I thought they did pretty well with the medal ceremony for the
women's gymnastics all-around.  We saw all three flags and heard
the Ukrainian national album -- the first time I, at least, have
ever heard it.  They showed a lot of both the gold and silver
medalists, but they skimped on showing the bronze medalist.

It's been my experience, and it was true in the Winter Olympics as
well, that in the few cases where a medal ceremony is shown without
an American taking the gold, it's done quite well.  The problem comes
when an American does take the gold.

Ed

 
 
 

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Post by Stan Macasi » Sun, 02 Aug 1992 08:29:39


Quote:
>Are there many Americans out there who would like to see a medal
>ceremony where an American athlete gets a silver or bronze medal,
>where US flag is not at the top?  Maybe just a few seconds?

>I wonder whether or not NBC's practice of not showing athlets from
>other countries in medal ceremonies and not showing any footages of
>medal ceremonies where Americans are not gold medallists (probably
>with a couple of exceptions) really reflects the preference of most
>American audience.

>Just curious.

>A non-American

In short, NO.

Unless that person happens to come from the country of your origin. If
it's a Filipino up there, sure, I'd like to hear our anthem, but so
would everyone else.

--Stan

 
 
 

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Post by vincent peter hrad » Tue, 04 Aug 1992 23:10:17

Quote:


>>As I've said before, I think it would even be more "patriotic", if
>>that's what NBC wants, to show all three flags with the US flag
>>at the top.  Showing just the one flag, or the face of the one
>>competitor, gives no context to the overall scene.

>Are there many Americans out there who would like to see a medal
>ceremony where an American athlete gets a silver or bronze medal,
>where US flag is not at the top?  Maybe just a few seconds?

I personally don't want to see ANY medal ceremonies.  I watch the
olympics to see sports.  Am I a minority.  Maybe a couple of seconds
of the ceremonies would be okay, but there is nothing more annoying to
me than to have to sit through the  National Anthem one more time when
there are finals that could be shown in other sports.

The NBC coverage of these olympics is probably my biggest
dissappointment the summer, and the Medal ceremony coverage just adds
to that dissappointment.

Quote:

>I wonder whether or not NBC's practice of not showing athlets from
>other countries in medal ceremonies and not showing any footages of
>medal ceremonies where Americans are not gold medallists (probably
>with a couple of exceptions) really reflects the preference of most
>American audience.

>Just curious.

>A non-American

Not me.

Not curious.

A U.S. citizen.

 
 
 

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Post by Keith Cummin » Wed, 05 Aug 1992 00:37:07

Give the Olympics back to ABC.  From what I have seen this year, neither NBC
NOR CBS has been able to give us coverage without alot of fluff!  Spare the
fluff!  If people want fluff, have a week of fluff AFTER the games.

How about the Quadruple Cast?  Three channels of olympics action and one
channel of Bob Costas feeding his own ego?

KDC  
NIH-NEI
Bethesda, MD

 
 
 

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Post by Ed Suran » Wed, 05 Aug 1992 04:50:30

Quote:

>Give the Olympics back to ABC.  From what I have seen this year, neither NBC
>NOR CBS has been able to give us coverage without alot of fluff!  Spare the
>fluff!  If people want fluff, have a week of fluff AFTER the games.

If you think ABC didn't also show a lot of what you call "fluff", you're
dreaming.  Don't you remember Jim McKay saying, "Let's meet her up
close and personal. . ."?

Ed