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Post by Jason K. Lambro » Sat, 21 Aug 2004 00:01:35


Greek point of view( not official, my own)

(1) Why would a Greek spend his money to see a field hockey game between
Pakistan and Korea?Did any Aussie go  see the Greek team play water polo

against Spain at the Sydney games?

(2) We invited the whole world to come and join us in celebration of
this great event.
 Most of you decided to stay home instead of going to Athens to support
your teams. Is that our fault that there are lots of empty seats.The
empty seats are your problem citizens of the world. We spent billions to
build the facilities, with our taxes($1,000 for every Greek citizen),
and yet you expect us to attend every event
and shell out more money.You were invited but you didn't show up-we both
lost.
At least we lost only money,you on the other hand lost a great
oppurtunity.

 
 
 

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Post by Peter » Sat, 21 Aug 2004 00:56:59



Quote:
> Greek point of view( not official, my own)

> (1) Why would a Greek spend his money to see a field hockey game between
> Pakistan and Korea?Did any Aussie go  see the Greek team play water polo

> against Spain at the Sydney games?

Because it's the Olympics, and it's in your country.  When the Olympics was
in LA where I lived, I spent money for tickets to go see a soccer game
between two countries I can't even remember now.  That's was the last time I
bought tickets to a soccer game.

Quote:
> (2) We invited the whole world to come and join us in celebration of
> this great event.
>  Most of you decided to stay home instead of going to Athens to support
> your teams. Is that our fault that there are lots of empty seats.The
> empty seats are your problem citizens of the world. We spent billions to
> build the facilities, with our taxes($1,000 for every Greek citizen),
> and yet you expect us to attend every event
> and shell out more money.You were invited but you didn't show up-we both
> lost.
> At least we lost only money,you on the other hand lost a great
> oppurtunity.

This is one of the most stupid statement I have ever heard.

 
 
 

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Post by Henr » Sat, 21 Aug 2004 01:43:30

Quote:

> Because it's the Olympics, and it's in your country.

Don't be daft, mate. Up until 30 April, Greece was, depending on the
metric* either the poorest or second poorest (*Portugal was pretty bad,
too) country in the EU. Not everyone has the 'Oh, spend...spend...'
mentality of Americans (thank Luck!!!).

cheers,

Henry

 
 
 

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Post by Jason K. Lambro » Sat, 21 Aug 2004 03:08:43

  How many tickets did you buy there big spender?As I said every Greek taxpayer
 will pay $1,000 to pay back the cost of the games. I guess you don't care if
Arnold makes you pay $1,000 in additional taxes next years. Come you didn't go
to the Olympics, mortgage too high for your treailer?
Quote:



> > Greek point of view( not official, my own)

> > (1) Why would a Greek spend his money to see a field hockey game between
> > Pakistan and Korea?Did any Aussie go  see the Greek team play water polo

> > against Spain at the Sydney games?

> Because it's the Olympics, and it's in your country.  When the Olympics was
> in LA where I lived, I spent money for tickets to go see a soccer game
> between two countries I can't even remember now.  That's was the last time I
> bought tickets to a soccer game.

> > (2) We invited the whole world to come and join us in celebration of
> > this great event.
> >  Most of you decided to stay home instead of going to Athens to support
> > your teams. Is that our fault that there are lots of empty seats.The
> > empty seats are your problem citizens of the world. We spent billions to
> > build the facilities, with our taxes($1,000 for every Greek citizen),
> > and yet you expect us to attend every event
> > and shell out more money.You were invited but you didn't show up-we both
> > lost.
> > At least we lost only money,you on the other hand lost a great
> > oppurtunity.

> This is one of the most stupid statement I have ever heard.

 
 
 

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Post by Jason K. Lambro » Sat, 21 Aug 2004 03:11:39

Quote:


> > Because it's the Olympics, and it's in your country.

> Don't be daft, mate. Up until 30 April, Greece was, depending on the
> metric* either the poorest or second poorest (*Portugal was pretty bad,
> too) country in the EU. Not everyone has the 'Oh, spend...spend...'
> mentality of Americans (thank Luck!!!).

> cheers,

> Henry

  This guy compares the LA Olympics of  1984 which took place in the
biggest and richest state in the US with all the facilities in place all
they had to do is fix the LA Coliseum and a few other things  with the
Athens Olympics
 
 
 

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Post by Peter » Sat, 21 Aug 2004 03:34:11



Quote:



> > > Because it's the Olympics, and it's in your country.

> > Don't be daft, mate. Up until 30 April, Greece was, depending on the
> > metric* either the poorest or second poorest (*Portugal was pretty bad,
> > too) country in the EU. Not everyone has the 'Oh, spend...spend...'
> > mentality of Americans (thank Luck!!!).

> > cheers,

> > Henry

>   This guy compares the LA Olympics of  1984 which took place in the
> biggest and richest state in the US with all the facilities in place all
> they had to do is fix the LA Coliseum and a few other things  with the
> Athens Olympics

I am comparing regular working people in LA with regular working people in
Athens.  I was a working stiff in LA.  But because I took pride in the Game
being in my country and my city, I bought tickets to go see an event.  I
can't afford the more expensive ones, but I still went.  There are also free
events which you don't have to be rich to go see.  For example, the shot put
was free.  You don't have to be rich to go over to the original Olympic
stadium to watch a free event.
 
 
 

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Post by Peter » Sat, 21 Aug 2004 03:42:06



Quote:
>   How many tickets did you buy there big spender?As I said every Greek
taxpayer
>  will pay $1,000 to pay back the cost of the games. I guess you don't care
if
> Arnold makes you pay $1,000 in additional taxes next years. Come you
didn't go
> to the Olympics, mortgage too high for your treailer?

Just one event.  I can't afford the high priced tickets, but I still took
pride in the Games being in my country and my city.  The LA game actually
made money, no taxes needed.  I guess some games are managed better than
others.  It's not my fault you have to pay taxes to support the Olympics.
Besides there are free events one can go to.  For example, the shot put is
free.  I didn't see that stadium being full.  Why don't you go see some of
the free events?  Bicycle road races, the Marathon, race walking are all
going to be free.

Quote:



> > > Greek point of view( not official, my own)

> > > (1) Why would a Greek spend his money to see a field hockey game
between
> > > Pakistan and Korea?Did any Aussie go  see the Greek team play water
polo

> > > against Spain at the Sydney games?

> > Because it's the Olympics, and it's in your country.  When the Olympics
was
> > in LA where I lived, I spent money for tickets to go see a soccer game
> > between two countries I can't even remember now.  That's was the last
time I
> > bought tickets to a soccer game.

> > > (2) We invited the whole world to come and join us in celebration of
> > > this great event.
> > >  Most of you decided to stay home instead of going to Athens to
support
> > > your teams. Is that our fault that there are lots of empty seats.The
> > > empty seats are your problem citizens of the world. We spent billions
to
> > > build the facilities, with our taxes($1,000 for every Greek citizen),
> > > and yet you expect us to attend every event
> > > and shell out more money.You were invited but you didn't show up-we
both
> > > lost.
> > > At least we lost only money,you on the other hand lost a great
> > > oppurtunity.

> > This is one of the most stupid statement I have ever heard.

 
 
 

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Post by Jason K. Lambro » Sat, 21 Aug 2004 03:36:41

Quote:





> > > > Because it's the Olympics, and it's in your country.

> > > Don't be daft, mate. Up until 30 April, Greece was, depending on the
> > > metric* either the poorest or second poorest (*Portugal was pretty bad,
> > > too) country in the EU. Not everyone has the 'Oh, spend...spend...'
> > > mentality of Americans (thank Luck!!!).

> > > cheers,

> > > Henry

> >   This guy compares the LA Olympics of  1984 which took place in the
> > biggest and richest state in the US with all the facilities in place all
> > they had to do is fix the LA Coliseum and a few other things  with the
> > Athens Olympics

> I am comparing regular working people in LA with regular working people in
> Athens.  I was a working stiff in LA.  But because I took pride in the Game
> being in my country and my city, I bought tickets to go see an event.  I
> can't afford the more expensive ones, but I still went.  There are also free
> events which you don't have to be rich to go see.  For example, the shot put
> was free.  You don't have to be rich to go over to the original Olympic
> stadium to watch a free event.

  And Olympia was packed, hoe you didn't to the Olympics afraid of terrorism?
 
 
 

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Post by Jason K. Lambro » Sat, 21 Aug 2004 03:43:12

 First of all I don't live in Greece I live In Queens NY, but I want to let
people know how the Greeks in Greece feel and how much they have to pay for the
privilege  to host the Olympics. You problem is, and you are not the only one
BTW, to compare the US with another country  and culture you have never bother
with before. Do you compare Mexico with the US, of course not, and Mexico is
close to 100 million people.
Quote:



> >   How many tickets did you buy there big spender?As I said every Greek
> taxpayer
> >  will pay $1,000 to pay back the cost of the games. I guess you don't care
> if
> > Arnold makes you pay $1,000 in additional taxes next years. Come you
> didn't go
> > to the Olympics, mortgage too high for your treailer?

> Just one event.  I can't afford the high priced tickets, but I still took
> pride in the Games being in my country and my city.  The LA game actually
> made money, no taxes needed.  I guess some games are managed better than
> others.  It's not my fault you have to pay taxes to support the Olympics.
> Besides there are free events one can go to.  For example, the shot put is
> free.  I didn't see that stadium being full.  Why don't you go see some of
> the free events?  Bicycle road races, the Marathon, race walking are all
> going to be free.




> > > > Greek point of view( not official, my own)

> > > > (1) Why would a Greek spend his money to see a field hockey game
> between
> > > > Pakistan and Korea?Did any Aussie go  see the Greek team play water
> polo

> > > > against Spain at the Sydney games?

> > > Because it's the Olympics, and it's in your country.  When the Olympics
> was
> > > in LA where I lived, I spent money for tickets to go see a soccer game
> > > between two countries I can't even remember now.  That's was the last
> time I
> > > bought tickets to a soccer game.

> > > > (2) We invited the whole world to come and join us in celebration of
> > > > this great event.
> > > >  Most of you decided to stay home instead of going to Athens to
> support
> > > > your teams. Is that our fault that there are lots of empty seats.The
> > > > empty seats are your problem citizens of the world. We spent billions
> to
> > > > build the facilities, with our taxes($1,000 for every Greek citizen),
> > > > and yet you expect us to attend every event
> > > > and shell out more money.You were invited but you didn't show up-we
> both
> > > > lost.
> > > > At least we lost only money,you on the other hand lost a great
> > > > oppurtunity.

> > > This is one of the most stupid statement I have ever heard.

 
 
 

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Post by Peter » Sat, 21 Aug 2004 03:51:17



Quote:






> > > > > Because it's the Olympics, and it's in your country.

> > > > Don't be daft, mate. Up until 30 April, Greece was, depending on the
> > > > metric* either the poorest or second poorest (*Portugal was pretty
bad,
> > > > too) country in the EU. Not everyone has the 'Oh, spend...spend...'
> > > > mentality of Americans (thank Luck!!!).

> > > > cheers,

> > > > Henry

> > >   This guy compares the LA Olympics of  1984 which took place in the
> > > biggest and richest state in the US with all the facilities in place
all
> > > they had to do is fix the LA Coliseum and a few other things  with the
> > > Athens Olympics

> > I am comparing regular working people in LA with regular working people
in
> > Athens.  I was a working stiff in LA.  But because I took pride in the
Game
> > being in my country and my city, I bought tickets to go see an event.  I
> > can't afford the more expensive ones, but I still went.  There are also
free
> > events which you don't have to be rich to go see.  For example, the shot
put
> > was free.  You don't have to be rich to go over to the original Olympic
> > stadium to watch a free event.

>   And Olympia was packed, hoe you didn't to the Olympics afraid of
terrorism?

As a working stiff I can't afford to.  But when the Game was in my city I
certainly took pride in that and went to couple of events, eventhough I
can't afford the more expensive venues.
 
 
 

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Post by Monste » Sat, 21 Aug 2004 04:18:03

the real question is why greece decided to host games it couldn't afford.
While you may have a point, the majority of events are supposed to be
attended by the home fans whether it is their country playing or not. You
just can't go about hosting stuff if you aren't interested in watching other
countries compete



Quote:
> Greek point of view( not official, my own)

> (1) Why would a Greek spend his money to see a field hockey game between
> Pakistan and Korea?Did any Aussie go  see the Greek team play water polo

> against Spain at the Sydney games?

> (2) We invited the whole world to come and join us in celebration of
> this great event.
> Most of you decided to stay home instead of going to Athens to support
> your teams. Is that our fault that there are lots of empty seats.The
> empty seats are your problem citizens of the world. We spent billions to
> build the facilities, with our taxes($1,000 for every Greek citizen),
> and yet you expect us to attend every event
> and shell out more money.You were invited but you didn't show up-we both
> lost.
> At least we lost only money,you on the other hand lost a great
> oppurtunity.

 
 
 

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Post by Peter » Sat, 21 Aug 2004 04:24:05



Quote:
> First of all I don't live in Greece I live In Queens NY, but I want to let
> people know how the Greeks in Greece feel and how much they have to pay
for the
> privilege  to host the Olympics. You problem is, and you are not the only
one
> BTW, to compare the US with another country  and culture you have never
bother
> with before. Do you compare Mexico with the US, of course not, and Mexico
is
> close to 100 million people.

You live in NY and writes about the "problems" Greece has, and you think I
have a problem?

Quote:



> > >   How many tickets did you buy there big spender?As I said every Greek
> > taxpayer
> > >  will pay $1,000 to pay back the cost of the games. I guess you don't
care
> > if
> > > Arnold makes you pay $1,000 in additional taxes next years. Come you
> > didn't go
> > > to the Olympics, mortgage too high for your treailer?

> > Just one event.  I can't afford the high priced tickets, but I still
took
> > pride in the Games being in my country and my city.  The LA game
actually
> > made money, no taxes needed.  I guess some games are managed better than
> > others.  It's not my fault you have to pay taxes to support the
Olympics.
> > Besides there are free events one can go to.  For example, the shot put
is
> > free.  I didn't see that stadium being full.  Why don't you go see some
of
> > the free events?  Bicycle road races, the Marathon, race walking are all
> > going to be free.




> > > > > Greek point of view( not official, my own)

> > > > > (1) Why would a Greek spend his money to see a field hockey game
> > between
> > > > > Pakistan and Korea?Did any Aussie go  see the Greek team play
water
> > polo

> > > > > against Spain at the Sydney games?

> > > > Because it's the Olympics, and it's in your country.  When the
Olympics
> > was
> > > > in LA where I lived, I spent money for tickets to go see a soccer
game
> > > > between two countries I can't even remember now.  That's was the
last
> > time I
> > > > bought tickets to a soccer game.

> > > > > (2) We invited the whole world to come and join us in celebration
of
> > > > > this great event.
> > > > >  Most of you decided to stay home instead of going to Athens to
> > support
> > > > > your teams. Is that our fault that there are lots of empty
seats.The
> > > > > empty seats are your problem citizens of the world. We spent
billions
> > to
> > > > > build the facilities, with our taxes($1,000 for every Greek
citizen),
> > > > > and yet you expect us to attend every event
> > > > > and shell out more money.You were invited but you didn't show
up-we
> > both
> > > > > lost.
> > > > > At least we lost only money,you on the other hand lost a great
> > > > > oppurtunity.

> > > > This is one of the most stupid statement I have ever heard.

 
 
 

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Post by Europa Euro » Sat, 21 Aug 2004 05:26:16


Quote:
>Greek point of view( not official, my own)

>(1) Why would a Greek spend his money to see a field hockey game between
>Pakistan and Korea?Did any Aussie go  see the Greek team play water polo
>against Spain at the Sydney games?

Sure I am looking forward to attend to as many events as possible in Turin
2006, even the ones that are less familiar to me like curling or short
track skating.
Even if I live 300 Kms East of Turin, that's not a problem, considering
that may very well be the last chance for me to have the Olympic games so
close to home.
 
 
 

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Post by Jason K. Lambro » Sat, 21 Aug 2004 06:33:43

It wasn't put to a popular vote, personaly I was against it, I knew it would
cost lots of green, which will be better spent on more importants things. They
spent all that money and what they get ungrateful comments from distant critics
like you.NBC is making money any way, so sit back and enjoy.
Quote:

> the real question is why greece decided to host games it couldn't afford.
> While you may have a point, the majority of events are supposed to be
> attended by the home fans whether it is their country playing or not. You
> just can't go about hosting stuff if you aren't interested in watching other
> countries compete



> > Greek point of view( not official, my own)

> > (1) Why would a Greek spend his money to see a field hockey game between
> > Pakistan and Korea?Did any Aussie go  see the Greek team play water polo

> > against Spain at the Sydney games?

> > (2) We invited the whole world to come and join us in celebration of
> > this great event.
> > Most of you decided to stay home instead of going to Athens to support
> > your teams. Is that our fault that there are lots of empty seats.The
> > empty seats are your problem citizens of the world. We spent billions to
> > build the facilities, with our taxes($1,000 for every Greek citizen),
> > and yet you expect us to attend every event
> > and shell out more money.You were invited but you didn't show up-we both
> > lost.
> > At least we lost only money,you on the other hand lost a great
> > oppurtunity.

 
 
 

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Post by Jaso » Sat, 21 Aug 2004 08:09:13

Quote:


>>Greek point of view( not official, my own)

>>(1) Why would a Greek spend his money to see a field hockey game between
>>Pakistan and Korea?Did any Aussie go  see the Greek team play water polo
>>against Spain at the Sydney games?
> Sure I am looking forward to attend to as many events as possible in Turin
> 2006, even the ones that are less familiar to me like curling or short
> track skating.
> Even if I live 300 Kms East of Turin, that's not a problem, considering
> that may very well be the last chance for me to have the Olympic games so
> close to home.

The Atlanta 1996 games had a similar feel, although it will
of course be dismissed here.  Nearly any American experience
is hated and belied as gilted, commercialized, or indecent.

Regardless, most of Atlanta was lined up to volunteer for the
Olympics.  Most, like me, were turned away at the screening sheet.
If memory serves correct, an ungodly minimum standard was set
that required hundreds of hours of prior volunteer service.
(Can't remember, all I know is that I couldn't volunteer before
I even tried).  Atlanta still found 60,000 people - probably
slightly well connected citizens.  Athens found 160,000 volunteers.

I still got my $16,000/yr unsavory self down to watch the events.
Working as a cashier, I somehow made it.  But perhaps I am a rich
cashier in a rich nation paying for my rich college education.
My $600.00 Volkswagen GTI was stolen that year and stripped.  Who
would ever steal a VW?  I couldn't afford the next year of
college because of that.  I swore I would cut the thief down
if I ever saw him in my car.  But then the shell showed up a year
later burnt and stripped.  It cost me $320 to get it out of
impound and have the police drop the matter.

The games were still cool.  I'll remember them for my whole
life.  So much culture coming in to one city.  It was remarkable
particularly given the history of Atlanta.  I liked the Opening
Ceremonies and the embracement of a haunted past.  More eyes were
on us than any other city.  And it was cool to walk tall and take
pride in that.

Anyway, I couldn't imagine ditching it for vacation.  Maybe
the excuses are valid.  Sounds like apathy to me.