Australian Olympic victory

Australian Olympic victory

Post by Blake Edward Nichols » Sat, 16 Apr 1994 18:32:58


Can anybody tell me the year and the event in which Australia won an Olympic
medal.  According to my friend, they have only won one medal, and it was a
silver.  Please reply with information to:

Thank you,
 
 
 

Australian Olympic victory

Post by Jay Feen » Sat, 16 Apr 1994 20:39:26


Quote:
>Can anybody tell me the year and the event in which Australia won an Olympic
>medal.  According to my friend, they have only won one medal, and it was a
>silver.  Please reply with information to:

>Thank you,

I know this is incorrect.

Australia just won a medal in short track skating this past Olympics...so
you could qualify this by saying this was the first *winter* medal won by
an Australian athlete.

In the '92 summer Olympics Australia won multiple medals...I know one of
them was a gold in rowing.

-Jay Feenan

 
 
 

Australian Olympic victory

Post by Kevin Glo » Sun, 17 Apr 1994 03:01:51


Quote:
>Can anybody tell me the year and the event in which Australia won an Olympic
>medal.  According to my friend, they have only won one medal, and it was a
>silver.  Please reply with information to:

>Thank you,

There have been more than one.  I am certain.  These are from
memory, and someone with a book can tell you more.

John Landy      1956    1500m   Bronze
(I think Landy was also second man to run mile in less than 4:00)

Herb Elliott    1960    1500m   Gold

Ron Clarke      1964    10000m  Bronze

Man, three legendary runners.

I think they also won the men's 800m in Mexico City (1968), and
the first ever 1500m gold in Athens (1896)
They had some pretty good women sprinters in the 50's.
They've always been good swimmers, particluarly the women.
Dawn Fraser was the 100 free three times in a row, didn't she?
(Either 52-56-60 or 56-60-64)
They've always known how to row.

Well, that's my $0.02.  Someone with a book (or from Auz!) could
tell you better.

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Kevin Gloin  University of Calgary

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Australian Olympic victory

Post by Cristopher J. Malon » Wed, 20 Apr 1994 02:02:10

I'm pretty sure they won a few Olympic medals in men's field hockey. They
have been World Cup champions in same.

Cheers...Cris


Quote:

>Can anybody tell me the year and the event in which Australia won an Olympic
>medal.  According to my friend, they have only won one medal, and it was a
>silver.  Please reply with information to:

>Thank you,

 
 
 

Australian Olympic victory

Post by Arif Abr » Wed, 20 Apr 1994 04:34:32


: Can anybody tell me the year and the event in which Australia won an Olympic
: medal.  According to my friend, they have only won one medal, and it was a
: silver.  Please reply ith information to:

: Thank you,

Plus I'm quite sure they've won a medal or two in field hockey.

 
 
 

Australian Olympic victory

Post by David Hatl » Wed, 20 Apr 1994 09:35:08


Quote:
>Can anybody tell me the year and the event in which Australia won an Olympic
>medal.  According to my friend, they have only won one medal, and it was a
>silver.  Please reply with information to:

>Thank you,

Your friend is thinking of the winter olympics in which Australia got its
first medal, a bronze, in the speed skating relay at Lillehammer.

In the summer olympics Australia gets a few medals each games.

David Hatley

 
 
 

Australian Olympic victory

Post by Mika Perki|m{ » Wed, 20 Apr 1994 21:30:20

: Herb Elliott  1960    1500m   Gold

Didn't Elliott win in 1956 also?

: I think they also won the men's 800m in Mexico City (1968)

Ralph Doubell??

: and the first ever 1500m gold in Athens (1896)

Edwin Flack. I think he won the 800m too?

: They had some pretty good women sprinters in the 50's.

They actually dominated the women's sprinting in 1952 and '56.

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Mika

 
 
 

Australian Olympic victory

Post by Mika Perki|m{ » Thu, 21 Apr 1994 19:17:05

: Didn't Elliott win in 1956 also?

Oops, I've noticed he didn't, sorry. Ron Delany of course won in Melbourne.
But I'm pretty sure Elliott didn't lose a *single* 1500m/1 mile race in his
career!

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Mika

 
 
 

Australian Olympic victory

Post by DORTM.. » Fri, 22 Apr 1994 01:04:25

In fact, Australia is one of the few countries to have
won a medal at every Summer Olympics (I think), as there
is only about 3 or 4 countries that have been to every
summer games. Can anybody tell me the others? (I've got
a feeling it is Greece and Great Britian.)

Peter

 
 
 

Australian Olympic victory

Post by Stefan Roessing » Fri, 22 Apr 1994 00:23:55


   : Can anybody tell me the year and the event in which Australia won an Olympic
   : medal.  According to my friend, they have only won one medal, and it was a
   : silver.  Please reply ith information to:

   : Thank you,

   Plus I'm quite sure they've won a medal or two in field hockey.

Well, try Duncan Armstrong 200m freestyle swimming in Seoul 1988.
He got the gold medal.

Stefan

 
 
 

Australian Olympic victory

Post by Kevin Glo » Fri, 22 Apr 1994 18:27:09

Quote:


>: Herb Elliott      1960    1500m   Gold

>Didn't Elliott win in 1956 also?

Umm, no.  1956 was Ron Delany, from Ireland.  (There are fewer
Irish medalists throughout history than Australians.  
Sort of a duty passed on from my Irish immigrant grandparents to
know them!)

Quote:
>: I think they also won the men's 800m in Mexico City (1968)

>Ralph Doubell??

It rings a bell.

Quote:
>: and the first ever 1500m gold in Athens (1896)

>Edwin Flack. I think he won the 800m too?

I do think he won 800m also, now that you say it.

Reminds me of a question I have always had: Before World War I,
Australia and New Zealand always competed together, and were
called Australia.  Anyone know if Flack was really an Australian,
or might have actually been a New Zealander?

(It' wasn't the same kind of emotional issue, like the Finn who
won 1912 10,000 metres and had to endure Russian flag being
raised (I'll massacre his name, but it was something like
Kohlemainen), because his country was being occupied.  Or the
Korean who won marathon 1936 (?) under Japanese flag (Did he come
back to light Olympic Flame in Seoul?)  
Nonetheless, it was two competing as one country)

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Kevin Gloin  University of Calgary

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Australian Olympic victory

Post by Jari Tapio Tomp » Sat, 23 Apr 1994 18:31:13

: (It' wasn't the same kind of emotional issue, like the Finn who
: won 1912 10,000 metres and had to endure Russian flag being
: raised (I'll massacre his name, but it was something like
: Kohlemainen), because his country was being occupied.

Hannes Kolehmainen won 1912 5,000 & 10,000 metres and after Finland had
it's independence he made comeback in 1920 games by winning a marathon.
Kolehmainen's winning time at 5,000 m was 14.36,6 and it was over 30
sec:s better that former World Record. It was so good that officials got
first scared, that there were one lap missing, but there weren't.

1920 games were also a breakthrough for someone who might be the most
famous of The Flying Finns: Paavo Nurmi won 10,000 m and finished second
at 5,000 m - winner was some french who puked over Paavo at the finish
line, his name escapes my mind, but I think it was something like
Guillotin ;).

In 1924 games Paavo Nurmi made history by winning both 1,500 m & 5,000 m
races at same day, with only about half an hour recovery time. 1924
games were breakthrough for another well known Flying Finn: Ville Ritola,
a.k.a. William Ritola, won 10,000 m and was second at 5,000 m. There
are rumours that leaders of finnish team promised Ritola that he will
win 10,000 m and didn't allow Nurmi to run 10,000 m, which he was
prepared to win. Nurmi got so anger that he, witnessed by some press
people, ran on training track 10,000 m below 30 min. Ritola's winning
time at 10,000 m was World Record and it was little over 30 min (30.06?).
Also marathon was won by Finn, Albin Stenroos.

Paavo Nurmi took his second 10,000 m goldmedal in 1928 games, Ritola was
second. 5,000 m was won by Ritola, Nurmi came second. Harri Larva won
1,500 metres.

For 1932 games Paavo Nurmi prepared well, because he had an intention to
finish his career by winning Olympic marathon, but he was judged as
a professional (by swedish, btw...) and wasn't allowed to run
in olympics.

1932 games were very sad for finnish people, because it was then first
time that goldmedal of 10,000 m wasn't catched by Finn. Luckily Lauri
Lehtinen won 5,000 m, but he was booed by the audience, because they
thought he played dirty game during last 100 m.

1936 games were the triumph of finnish distance running, only bronze medal
at 5,000 m didn't came to Finland. And they were also the last games
in many decades that Finns succeeded. Ilmari Salminen won 10,000 m and
5,000 m was won by ... oh no, I've forgotten that name, I'm so ashamed
about myself... Those are the names real Finnish sportsfanatics never
never forgets and now I forget it... oh boy... My dementia is worse than
I thought. ;)

1948 games were supposed to be the triumph of Viljo Heino, World Record
holder at 10,000 m, but he had injured before Olympic games and he didn't
even finished the race.

Finally on 1972 games Finns came back. Lasse Viren won both 5,000 m
& 10,000 m and made World Record of 10,000. Pekka Vasala won 1,500 m so
The Flying Finns were back.

Lasse Viren continued his success on 1976 games by winning again 5,000 m
& 10,000 m but those games were boycotted by africans. Some people
claim that if John Ngeno from Kenya would've been there Viren would
have no chances against him. Well I don't believe it, since there weren't
any possibility for Viren to win even 5,000 m race against fast milers
(Rod Dixon &*** Quax, both from New Zealand), but he won anyway.
Viren was genuine example of Finnish Sisu (how should I translate that,
willpower isn't strong enough, but it's something like that). Maby
he wasn't the fastest runner on track, but he didn't think he may win,
when he went to track, he _KNEW_, he would win the race.
I still think that 5,000 m on 1976 games is the 'Mother of all running
races'. I was only 10 years then, but I still remember while I was watching
that race on TV and how worried I was during last laps, while milers
were just following Viren and the pace seemed awfully slow.

Viren tried to finish his career by winning an olympic marathon 1980, but
he failed and did not even finished the marathon. On 10,000 m he was fifth,
while another finnish, Kaarlo Maaninka, took silver medal after sensational
Miruts Yifter from Ethiopia. Maaninka was also third on 5,000 m after two
Africans, Yifter and Suleiman Nyambui from Tanzania. By the way, fourth
was current world record holder on masters mile, Eamonn Coghlan from
Ireland.

The worst moment in finnish distance running were undoubtfully 1984 games.
Martti Vainio came second on 10,000 m after Italian Alberto Cova, but
he was catched in drug-test by using steroids. So he was publicly
disgraced and of course he lost his silver medal for Mike McLeod from
Great Britain (I think he is from Scotland...)

Vainio still came back and he trained heavily, and I believe, without
***, for 1988 games. But he was dropped off Finnish Team. Actually
on 1988 games there were no Finnish long-distance runners at all.
What a shame. We had runners who were capable of getting the finals, but
leaders of our olympic committee didn't think it was enough.

After that finnish distance running has gotten deeper and deeper, but
maby we'll one day see yet another Flying Finn. At least I hope so...

Thank you for your attention.

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Australian Olympic victory

Post by Roland Muell » Sat, 23 Apr 1994 19:31:53

: (It' wasn't the same kind of emotional issue, like the Finn who
: won 1912 10,000 metres and had to endure Russian flag being
: raised (I'll massacre his name, but it was something like
: Kohlemainen), because his country was being occupied.

Ah, am I glad you brought this up! Hannes Kolehmainen ("the smiling Finn")
won three gold medals in 1912 (5000m, 10 000m and cross country) plus a silver
in cross country's team competition. In addition he set new world records in
5000m and 3000m (team competition, where other Finns were not good enough).
And in 1920 he also won the gold medal in marathon.

Kolehmainen's victory in 5000m over Jean Bouin in an amazing time of 14.36,6
(previous world record over 15 mins) is considered the most important moment
in Finnish sporting history. As it was said, Hannes ran Finland to the map
of the world. Almost everyone who was watching the games said that the 5000m
was the most memorable event in the games.

And, as Kevin said, in the medal ceremony a Russian flag was raised to the
pole! Under it was only a little sign with the text "Finland". This was
because Finland then was part of Russia, but was allowed to compete with
a team of its own. (like Ireland and Bohemia) This turned the audience's
sympathies even more towards Finland. Many papers around the world critisised
Russia for oppressing Finland. Of course this was not the only reason, it
happened in many other areas also. In that time Russia thought that Finland
was too independent, and tried to make it a REAL Russian province taking away
almost all rights of the Finnish people.

Well, as we all know they failed to do this, and when Kolehmainen won his
fourth gold medal in 1920, he was finally competing in a totally independent
Finnish team, and saw the Finnish flag raised in his honor. Some people say
Kolehmainen's victories in 1912 had some effect on this. At least they
gave self-confidence and strength to the people of Finland.

: Or the
: Korean who won marathon 1936 (?) under Japanese flag (Did he come
: back to light Olympic Flame in Seoul?)  

Yep. Sohn Kee-Chung actually didn't light the olympic flame, but brought it
to the stadium in Seoul. 52 years before he had won the marathon gold medal
under the name of Kitei Son, and representig Japan. Sohn is best remembered
(as for me) for his running shoes, where his big toes had places of their own.
(i.e. They looked like mittens.)

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Mika