Olympics: What's with NBC's excuses for all the empty seats?

Olympics: What's with NBC's excuses for all the empty seats?

Post by Karen E » Thu, 19 Aug 2004 13:54:01


Quote:


>>Next, they need to do away with
>>commentators who have not competed in the event they're covering.

> I don't necessarily agree. Some former competitors make excellent
> commentators but just as many (or more) are guilty of some or all of
> the following....

<snip>

Absolutely true, however they at least have a clue what they're talking
about. If I have to listen to someone talking, I want it to be someone
who actually knows what's going on. Sure, after covering seven or eight
Olympics a non-swimmer might have a fair handle on the swimming events,
but I'd rather have someone who doesn't need a couple decades to get up
to speed.

Really, though, no commentators (at least during outright competition)
would be best.

And NBC needs to quit taking up a quarter of my screen for their
self-promotion while a gymnast is on the apparatus.

Karen E.
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Olympics: What's with NBC's excuses for all the empty seats?

Post by Gor » Thu, 19 Aug 2004 23:21:33

Quote:

> C'mon.  We aren't stupid.  During every competition I've seen so far
> there've been five times more empty seats than occupied ones.  You'd
> think the folks in the stadiums could hear Bob Costas' commentary.

> Bob offered like a hundred different excuses for the sea of empty
> seats, including:

> -- Everybody in Greece goes on vacation in August.

> -- This is early going; later on, during the finals, folks'll show up.

> -- The expensive seats, the ones you see on TV, are empty, but the
> cheap ones you can't see, well -- they're JAMMED.

> I thought of a few more than are equally plausible:

> -- Nobody in Greece cares about half-*** women.

> -- Everybody just happened to go to the bathroom all at once.

> -- All the residents are Greek Orthodox, and their religion forbids
> them from throwing their money away.

> But, you know, Greece was pretty dumb to spend so much on this stuff.
> Goes to show Americans aren't the only ones in denial:  you can build
> it, but that don't mean they'll come.

NBC needs to hire those chair filler-guys that the Academy Awards use
so that there are never any empty seats during the broadcast.

-goro-

 
 
 

Olympics: What's with NBC's excuses for all the empty seats?

Post by Gor » Thu, 19 Aug 2004 23:26:24

*snip*

Quote:
> CNN.com had a poll on their main page earlier today, revealing that
> about 67% of respondents felt the Olympics have 'lost their luster'.
> Maybe people just don't care about the Olympics anymore?  It reminds me

all the major events like Gymnastics and T&F have international events
all the time now.  and there are "big" events like the Pan-Am games
and the Goodwill Games.  and with the staggering of the winter/summer
olympics, there's an Olympics every 2 years.  OF COURSE, they've lost
their luster... to everyone but the athletes, i think (excluding the
NBA guys, of course).

-goro-

 
 
 

Olympics: What's with NBC's excuses for all the empty seats?

Post by Gor » Thu, 19 Aug 2004 23:31:36

Quote:

> NBC has got to be giving the ABSOLUTE WORST coverage
> I have ever seen for any televised sporting event, bar none!

I wonder if NBC will consider issuing a DVD set of complete coverage
of the Olympics, with commentators on a SECOND audio track, that way
we can watch the events in peace.

i wonder if anyone would buy such a boxset?

*snip*

 
 
 

Olympics: What's with NBC's excuses for all the empty seats?

Post by Greg Macdona » Fri, 20 Aug 2004 02:53:22


spake:

Quote:
>Really, though, no commentators (at least during outright competition)
>would be best.

Back a couple of years ago, the French-language division of the CBC
had a strike, which resulted in no commentary at all during a Montreal
Canadians-Boston Bruins playoff game. You could hear the players
yelling back and forth, the scrape of the blades, everything. It was
awesome.

Quote:
>And NBC needs to quit taking up a quarter of my screen for their
>self-promotion while a gymnast is on the apparatus.

They're probably just taking their lead from TBS, which runs
commercials on screen during their movies. Yack.

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Olympics: What's with NBC's excuses for all the empty seats?

Post by Patty Wint » Fri, 20 Aug 2004 05:08:04


Quote:

>Back a couple of years ago, the French-language division of the CBC
>had a strike, which resulted in no commentary at all during a Montreal
>Canadians-Boston Bruins playoff game. You could hear the players
>yelling back and forth, the scrape of the blades, everything. It was
>awesome.

Wow, that does sound interesting. As others have suggested, this
would be a great use for the SAP channel. (If it isn't already
being used for descriptive video, Spanish, etc.)

Quote:

>>And NBC needs to quit taking up a quarter of my screen for their
>>self-promotion while a gymnast is on the apparatus.

>They're probably just taking their lead from TBS, which runs
>commercials on screen during their movies. Yack.

If Karen is referring to the schedules of upcoming Olympic events
on the various NBC channels, I like them. I think they pop up
every 15 minutes, and it takes maybe two minutes to run through
all six channels' schedules.

Patty

 
 
 

Olympics: What's with NBC's excuses for all the empty seats?

Post by Falky fo » Fri, 20 Aug 2004 06:09:20

yeah but you know what.. the Koreans had the same problem in '88 and they
bussed people in to fill the stands.  So it's not so unusual.


Quote:
> C'mon.  We aren't stupid.  During every competition I've seen so far
> there've been five times more empty seats than occupied ones.  You'd
> think the folks in the stadiums could hear Bob Costas' commentary.

> Bob offered like a hundred different excuses for the sea of empty
> seats, including:

> -- Everybody in Greece goes on vacation in August.

> -- This is early going; later on, during the finals, folks'll show up.

> -- The expensive seats, the ones you see on TV, are empty, but the
> cheap ones you can't see, well -- they're JAMMED.

> I thought of a few more than are equally plausible:

> -- Nobody in Greece cares about half-*** women.

> -- Everybody just happened to go to the bathroom all at once.

> -- All the residents are Greek Orthodox, and their religion forbids
> them from throwing their money away.

> But, you know, Greece was pretty dumb to spend so much on this stuff.
> Goes to show Americans aren't the only ones in denial:  you can build
> it, but that don't mean they'll come.

 
 
 

Olympics: What's with NBC's excuses for all the empty seats?

Post by FeAudr » Fri, 20 Aug 2004 09:03:41



Quote:



>> NBC has got to be giving the ABSOLUTE WORST coverage
>> I have ever seen for any televised sporting event, bar none!

>I wonder if NBC will consider issuing a DVD set of complete coverage
>of the Olympics, with commentators on a SECOND audio track, that way
>we can watch the events in peace.

>i wonder if anyone would buy such a boxset?

>*snip*

Great idea, but we're talking about a network that thinks we'd prefer
to experience the opening ceremonies hearing Katie babble rather than
Bjork sing.

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Post by Ra » Fri, 20 Aug 2004 10:22:47

"FeAudrey"  wrote

Quote:
> >I wonder if NBC will consider issuing a DVD set of complete coverage
> >of the Olympics, with commentators on a SECOND audio track, that way
> >we can watch the events in peace.

I don't know.. but I'll bet you could make some money right now,
marketing video games, or dartboards, where Bob & Katie are the targets?

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Post by Dave and Diana Coyn » Fri, 20 Aug 2004 13:39:49

As though NBC has anything to do with ticket sales?  They have no stake in
the matter.  Attendance on the ground matters not one whit to them as all
their revenue derives from television advertising and its corollaries.  It's
the IOC and the Greeks that bear the shame.



Quote:
> > C'mon.  We aren't stupid.  During every competition I've seen so far
> > there've been five times more empty seats than occupied ones.  You'd
> > think the folks in the stadiums could hear Bob Costas' commentary.

> > Bob offered like a hundred different excuses for the sea of empty
> > seats, including:

> > -- Everybody in Greece goes on vacation in August.

> > -- This is early going; later on, during the finals, folks'll show up.

> > -- The expensive seats, the ones you see on TV, are empty, but the
> > cheap ones you can't see, well -- they're JAMMED.

> > I thought of a few more than are equally plausible:

> > -- Nobody in Greece cares about half-*** women.

> > -- Everybody just happened to go to the bathroom all at once.

> > -- All the residents are Greek Orthodox, and their religion forbids
> > them from throwing their money away.

> > But, you know, Greece was pretty dumb to spend so much on this stuff.
> > Goes to show Americans aren't the only ones in denial:  you can build
> > it, but that don't mean they'll come.

> NBC needs to hire those chair filler-guys that the Academy Awards use
> so that there are never any empty seats during the broadcast.

> -goro-

 
 
 

Olympics: What's with NBC's excuses for all the empty seats?

Post by William December Sta » Fri, 20 Aug 2004 13:45:20



Quote:
> As though NBC has anything to do with ticket sales?  They have no
> stake in the matter.  Attendance on the ground matters not one whit
> to them as all their revenue derives from television advertising
> and its corollaries.  It's the IOC and the Greeks that bear the
> shame.

They may have an indirect interest, since the more rinky-dink the
empty seats make these Games look the less glamorous and must-see
the overall concept of ***The Olympics*** may become in the viewers'
minds, which in turn could hurt the value of the "product" for NBC in
2006 and 2008.

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Olympics: What's with NBC's excuses for all the empty seats?

Post by Nancy Dool » Fri, 20 Aug 2004 23:24:14


Quote:


> > As though NBC has anything to do with ticket sales?  They have no
> > stake in the matter.  Attendance on the ground matters not one whit
> > to them as all their revenue derives from television advertising
> > and its corollaries.  It's the IOC and the Greeks that bear the
> > shame.

> They may have an indirect interest, since the more rinky-dink the
> empty seats make these Games look the less glamorous and must-see
> the overall concept of ***The Olympics*** may become in the viewers'
> minds, which in turn could hurt the value of the "product" for NBC in
> 2006 and 2008.

It seems to me that as events become semi-finals and medal rounds,
there are a lot more filled seats - last night's view of the
gymnastics finals, the white-water kayaking and the swimming finals
showed almost-full seats.  I think there was a mention somewhere that
as the games started and progressed, more people were buying tickets,
and I think that's proving to be true.

N.

 
 
 

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Post by Ra » Fri, 20 Aug 2004 23:37:51

Basketball has been sold out.

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Post by Watch » Sat, 21 Aug 2004 04:21:23

Quote:

> Basketball has been sold out.

Well, the PLAYERS have sold out.......
 
 
 

Olympics: What's with NBC's excuses for all the empty seats?

Post by Myster » Sat, 21 Aug 2004 22:51:00

Quote:




> > > As though NBC has anything to do with ticket sales?  They have no
> > > stake in the matter.  Attendance on the ground matters not one whit
> > > to them as all their revenue derives from television advertising
> > > and its corollaries.  It's the IOC and the Greeks that bear the
> > > shame.

> > They may have an indirect interest, since the more rinky-dink the
> > empty seats make these Games look the less glamorous and must-see
> > the overall concept of ***The Olympics*** may become in the viewers'
> > minds, which in turn could hurt the value of the "product" for NBC in
> > 2006 and 2008.

> It seems to me that as events become semi-finals and medal rounds,
> there are a lot more filled seats - last night's view of the
> gymnastics finals, the white-water kayaking and the swimming finals
> showed almost-full seats.  I think there was a mention somewhere that
> as the games started and progressed, more people were buying tickets,
> and I think that's proving to be true.

> N.

I saw TONS of empty seats during the Women's Gymnastics All-Around
final last night -- especially in the upper-level.  (I guess someone
finally wised up and invited all the upper-level patrons to move down
to "fill-in" the lower-level empty seats.)

All those empty seats almost made me want to jump on a plane and head
over to Greece to watch the Olympics.  A once in a lifetime
opportunity to witness the Olympics and many people are missing out on
it.

Sad state of affairs when it seems the press contingent (blue seats in
lower-level) excessively outnumbers the "fans" in attendance.