Olympics: What's with NBC's excuses for all the empty seats?

Olympics: What's with NBC's excuses for all the empty seats?

Post by Alan Hurshma » Wed, 18 Aug 2004 05:16:41



Quote:
> with all due respect, NBC is not responsible for the empty seats, and it's
> pretty difficult to avoid showing them.

> I'm the biggest NBC basher there is, but empty seats is not their problem.

And to be fair, it is the huge sums that NBC has paid
to broadcast this thing that will still make it profitable
for the organizers even if nobody shows up at the venues.

--
AlanH

 
 
 

Olympics: What's with NBC's excuses for all the empty seats?

Post by Guy Bann » Wed, 18 Aug 2004 06:58:28

Quote:

> Are you new?  You can recycle the same complaint from one Olympics to the
> next.  It's always the same thing.

> So what's a better Olympics coverage?

The problem is that Costas and NBC is covering sports as though they're
doing celebrity profiles. There's no sense of an international event and
the commentary is about their personal lives rather than strategy,
training, etc.

A better Olympics coverage? Something more like how ESPN covers sports.

BTW, why does Costas make such a big deal about how young Michael Phelps
is? The guy is 19. When Ian Thorpe won his gold medals in the Sydney
Olympics, Ian was 17 or 18. There have been famous U.S. swimmers who were
younger when they won gold, e.g., Janet Evans.

 
 
 

Olympics: What's with NBC's excuses for all the empty seats?

Post by E Varde » Wed, 18 Aug 2004 10:27:51

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Quote:

> Are you new?  You can recycle the same complaint from one Olympics to the
> next.  It's always the same thing.

> So what's a better Olympics coverage?

You haven't been following this thread much, have you?

CBC showed North America how it's done.  And because NBC is the only
American player is NO reason to let them off the (continuing) charge of
irritation and incompetence.

NBC has a death-grip on the Olympics, and obviously doesn't give a rat's
ass if you don't like its coverage:  Like, where's most of America gonna
turn to?

These egregiously care-less and incompentent ***ers need COMPETITION,
is what they need.  This is America; give the folks another channel (or
two) to turn to if they find NBC so outrageously out-of-touch.  That
should shake some complacency upstairs at N(ot) B(etter) C(overage).

Pe

 
 
 

Olympics: What's with NBC's excuses for all the empty seats?

Post by Sue » Wed, 18 Aug 2004 08:07:40

It's so bad, ABC News just ran a piece on all the empty seats (although
maybe they're just gloating over the fact that they don't have to worry
about it looking as if the Olympics are bombing).

They suggested that the Greeks estimated over 100,000 tourists coming in
for the Games, but only about 1/10 of that number actually came. They
said Seoul and Sydney solved the problem by such tactics as free tickets
and bussing in soldiers dressed in civilian clothes. But the head of
Greece flatly stated they will NOT be giving out free tickets, so there
goes that idea. People with extra tickets to sell are lamenting the fact
that nobody wants to buy them.

Now apparently they're going to start an ad blitz basically begging
Greeks to go to the Games. Not sure it'll have much of an effect,
though-I think people might sense the desperation and stay away. How bad
does it look if you have to plead for people to attend an event like
this in their home country?

CNN.com had a poll on their main page earlier today, revealing that
about 67% of respondents felt the Olympics have 'lost their luster'.
Maybe people just don't care about the Olympics anymore?  It reminds me
of the 1980 games, when there was talk of discontinuing the Games
because of their declining popularity. Then the 1984 games happened, and
suddenly they were on top again. Now it looks as if the slide's started
once more-I noticed before the Games even started that there seemed to
be almost zero hype and interest in them.  I wonder if before too long
we'll hear talk again of not doing the Games anymore?

Sue

 
 
 

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Post by Crank » Wed, 18 Aug 2004 09:32:44


| It's so bad, ABC News just ran a piece on all the empty seats (although
| maybe they're just gloating over the fact that they don't have to worry
| about it looking as if the Olympics are bombing).
|
| They suggested that the Greeks estimated over 100,000 tourists coming in
| for the Games, but only about 1/10 of that number actually came. They
| said Seoul and Sydney solved the problem by such tactics as free tickets
| and bussing in soldiers dressed in civilian clothes.

***ing bullshit dip shit yank who knows ***-all about Sydney.

Sydney was a sell-out.  Australians just wanted to get to see anything of
the Olympics and bought anything at all.

BAck IN YOUR HOLE SEPPO.|

 
 
 

Olympics: What's with NBC's excuses for all the empty seats?

Post by Race is Pa » Wed, 18 Aug 2004 13:40:38

Quote:
>Subject: Olympics:  What's with NBC's excuses for all the empty seats?


< snip >
Because nobody cares about the events
so far ....period... Of course i dont know
how the attendance was in year's past...
I mean come on folks ...how many
regular people care about gymnastics
water polo etc.
 
 
 

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Post by Argyl » Thu, 19 Aug 2004 00:14:24


Quote:
> CNN.com had a poll on their main page earlier today, revealing that
> about 67% of respondents felt the Olympics have 'lost their luster'.

snip....

*They* haven't lost their luster just the broadcasting of them has.
Years ago we used to see the qualifying rounds. Now all we see are parts of
the finals.
BFD.
The qualifying rounds were usually more fun to watch that the finals, IMO.

 
 
 

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Post by E » Thu, 19 Aug 2004 02:01:50


Quote:
> >Subject: Olympics:  What's with NBC's excuses for all the empty seats?

> < snip >
> Because nobody cares about the events
> so far ....period... Of course i dont know
> how the attendance was in year's past...
> I mean come on folks ...how many
> regular people care about gymnastics
> water polo etc.

Gymnastics, at least, is almost always a sellout at the Olympics.
Certainly, it was sold out at the L.A., Atlanta, and Sydney games.

Ed

 
 
 

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Post by Oro » Thu, 19 Aug 2004 01:37:20

It's not their fault the seats are empty. Like you would go if the Olympics
was held in your hometown and you knew there could be terrorists blowing it
up and if not, you still have to get pass security just to watch what you
could see on TV, would you go?
 
 
 

Olympics: What's with NBC's excuses for all the empty seats?

Post by mori » Thu, 19 Aug 2004 03:18:56


Quote:
> C'mon.  We aren't stupid.  During every competition I've seen so far
> there've been five times more empty seats than occupied ones.  You'd
> think the folks in the stadiums could hear Bob Costas' commentary.

> Bob offered like a hundred different excuses for the sea of empty
> seats, including:

> -- Everybody in Greece goes on vacation in August.

Sure, European in general go on vacation in August - where do they often go?
Greece!  So this makes no sense.

Quote:
> -- This is early going; later on, during the finals, folks'll show up.

> -- The expensive seats, the ones you see on TV, are empty, but the
> cheap ones you can't see, well -- they're JAMMED.

Maybe if tickets weren't so ridiculously priced in the first place, more
people would go.  Also maybe if there weren't so many non-sports for people
to see, people wouldn't be so spread out.  I bet there are tons of people at
the games but they have 50 zillion different things they can go see and each
with giant stadiums.  They've got to cuts some of the stupid stuff like
ping-pong, horseback riding, water polo, badmitten, softball, basketball,
etc.  And why do they need tennis and soccer when there already is a world
cup and stuff like wimbledon and the french open?

I'm so glad I get CBC coverage in addition to NBC's stuff.  The one channel
of CBC does a better job than all of NBC's put together.  Not like either is
perfect though.

 
 
 

Olympics: What's with NBC's excuses for all the empty seats?

Post by Karen E » Thu, 19 Aug 2004 03:51:13

Quote:


>>CNN.com had a poll on their main page earlier today, revealing that
>>about 67% of respondents felt the Olympics have 'lost their luster'.

> snip....

> *They* haven't lost their luster just the broadcasting of them has.
> Years ago we used to see the qualifying rounds. Now all we see are parts of
> the finals.
> BFD.
> The qualifying rounds were usually more fun to watch that the finals, IMO.

Wow. You must be watching different Olympics. I've watched quals and
semis in pretty much every swimming event as well as gymnastics. And
that's just on NBC. I don't have cable or dish - just rabbit ears.

That's not to say that I wouldn't like to see the Olympics handled
differently. Yes, we're seeing quals, but I really would like to see
competitors other than the ones that were expected to make the finals
and didn't and the ones that go to the finals. First thing I'd axe from
the coverage would be the color stuff. I don't need the bios on the
athletes. Since NBC has Bravo handling coverage they could just run all
that on Bravo. That frees up time for them to show more actual
commpetition during their broadcast. Next, they need to do away with
commentators who have not competed in the event they're covering.
Finally, tell the ones they keep to shut the heck up during really tense
moments. Much as I like Tim Daggett, last night found me grousing, "Shut
_up_, Tim!" at the TV during the men's gymnastics.

Kayaking today was pretty exciting.

Karen E.

--
_______________________________________
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had said it before."

Mark Twain

 
 
 

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Post by JCMums » Thu, 19 Aug 2004 04:18:15

Quote:
>It's not their fault the seats are empty. Like you would go if the Olympics
>was held in your hometown and you knew there could be terrorists blowing it
>up and if not, you still have to get pass security just to watch what you
>could see on TV, would you go?

No, and I am still wondering why some New York City officials would like to
host the 2012 games????
 
 
 

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Post by Jason Cormi » Thu, 19 Aug 2004 07:37:56

Quote:

> Next, they need to do away with
> commentators who have not competed in the event they're covering.

I don't necessarily agree. Some former competitors make excellent
commentators but just as many (or more) are guilty of some or all of
the following....

- talking like an insider without providing context/explanations for
the lay person. (I'm not talking about stating the obvious but rather
providing brief explanations of jargon or past events that they  often
mention before quickly moving on.)

- being amongst the worst cheerleaders

- being scared to critique where appropriate because they don't want
to upset their former team mates/coaches/officials

- having little or no experience speaking in front of camera and thus
whispering or shouting far too much of the time

I am primarily watching the Olympics on CBC, SRC, and TSN in Canada.
Luckily many of the commentators have experience covering their
sports. While the views of former athletes are appreciated (and some
have graduated into accomplished commentators themselves over the
years), I'm quite appreciative of the professional announcers who
control most of the dialogue.

'Course, if I was stuck with Costas and Couric much of the time, I
might feel differently about professional TV people... ;-)