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Post by Jules R » Thu, 04 Jul 1996 04:00:00



Quote:

>Subject: Re: Another victory for the consumer!
>Date: Tue, 02 Jul 1996 21:16:56 -0400

>> <I hate to be in the position of defending ACOG, but at least the
>> opening
>> and closing ceremony tickets that are currently being sold were
>> first
>> offered to people based on their Fairtix position.  The ones that
>> were not
>> purchased were then put up for sale to the general public.

>Total bullshit, Steve. We sent in 10 separate applications for 2 tix
>each, on the first day they accepted apps. $150.00 just in application
>fees, and a whopping $12,720.00 for 20 opening ceremonies tix. Guess how
>many we got?
>And do you think they called one of my customer numbers to offer me any
>extras?
>I read about it in the paper, and luckily called in and got 4.
>Let me assure you with certainty, someone will probably go to prison
>when the ugly truth oozes out after the games, when 60 Minutes does a
>little snooping around.
>Check the interest on deposits held account in the final financial
>statement released sometime next year for ACOG. You'll see why the
>FairTix creation was a brilliant scam to provide working cash capital
>when corporate sponsorships weren't selling very well.
>And do you think there were really 3000 seats reserved for camera stands
>in the opening ceremonies? As if their scam isn't bad enough, then they
>feed me some shit like that.
>Unfortunately, those 3000 seats (which were really reserved for
>corporate packages they couldn't sell) had been reserved for some
>wannabe corporate yuppie and his company willing to pay an assanine
>amount for a tent and some tickets. All while my money was paying the
>sales rep's salary.
>It's OK, though, Billy Payne will make sure somebody (not him) takes the
>fall. He's good at that, you know.

John, you are right in the money.  During the bogus ticket lottery last year I
applied for several tickets. They hold $1250 of my money for 4 months. I
didn't get any tickets and they even charge me for a program that I didn't
requested. Later I was amazed that all the tickets I initially requested were
available, and I was not even informed about the availability of these
tickets because obviously it was not profitable for the ACOG to sell these
tickets to someone like me that already has paid the application fee. I  
called the ACOG and complained and they slammed the phone on me.
I am thinking of writing letters to television stations and newspapers to
expose this scam  subterfurged behind the "Olympic Spirit".

Jules

 
 
 

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Post by SBRob » Thu, 04 Jul 1996 04:00:00

BTW, I wrote this, not Jim

Quote:

>> <I hate to be in the position of defending ACOG, but at least the
>> opening
>> and closing ceremony tickets that are currently being sold were
>> first
>> offered to people based on their Fairtix position.  The ones that
>> were not
>> purchased were then put up for sale to the general public.


>Total bullshit, Steve. We sent in 10 separate applications for 2 tix
>each, on the first day they accepted apps. $150.00 just in application
>fees, and a whopping $12,720.00 for 20 opening ceremonies tix. Guess how
>many we got?
>And do you think they called one of my customer numbers to offer me any
>extras?
>I read about it in the paper, and luckily called in and got 4.
>Let me assure you with certainty, someone will probably go to prison
>when the ugly truth oozes out after the games, when 60 Minutes does a
>little snooping around.
>Check the interest on deposits held account in the final financial
>statement released sometime next year for ACOG. You'll see why the
>FairTix creation was a brilliant scam to provide working cash capital
>when corporate sponsorships weren't selling very well.
>And do you think there were really 3000 seats reserved for camera stands
>in the opening ceremonies? As if their scam isn't bad enough, then they
>feed me some shit like that.
>Unfortunately, those 3000 seats (which were really reserved for
>corporate packages they couldn't sell) had been reserved for some
>wannabe corporate yuppie and his company willing to pay an assanine
>amount for a tent and some tickets. All while my money was paying the
>sales rep's salary.
>It's OK, though, Billy Payne will make sure somebody (not him) takes the
>fall. He's good at that, you know.

I said I didn't like defending ACOG, but at least get the facts straight.
There were only 15,000 opening ceremony tickets entered into Fairtix.  The
other 75,000 or so disappeared to the IOC, the NOCs, sponsors, Georgia
politicians - you name it.  There were plenty of people with their hands
in the cookie jar.  For the remaining 15,000 tickets, ACOG got nearly
500,000 requests - the highest number for any event so even if you sent in
10 sets of ticket requests, you had only about a 1 in 33 chance of getting
any.  Also, you knew when you sent in your order that ACOG was going to be
holding your money for about 6 months -
Steve Robie

 
 
 

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Post by John Q. Custome » Fri, 05 Jul 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

> I said I didn't like defending ACOG, but at least get the facts straight.
> There were only 15,000 opening ceremony tickets entered into Fairtix.  The
> other 75,000 or so disappeared to the IOC, the NOCs, sponsors, Georgia
> politicians - you name it.  There were plenty of people with their hands
> in the cookie jar.  For the remaining 15,000 tickets, ACOG got nearly
> 500,000 requests - the highest number for any event so even if you sent in
> 10 sets of ticket requests, you had only about a 1 in 33 chance of getting
> any.  Also, you knew when you sent in your order that ACOG was going to be
> holding your money for about 6 months -
> Steve Robie

No chief, I didn't know that in an 85,000 seat stadium, there would only be 15,000 available seats. And where
did you get that tidbit of information anyway? If that's the truth, it's sad to think that ACOG has put on the
Games, not for people, but for IOC's, NOC's, sponsors, and Georgia politicians. There is no doubt that Georgia
politicians embody the true meaning and spirit of the Olympic Games, and subsequently deserve 70,000 of the
85,000 tickets to the ceremonies..........don't you agree?

And still in your pathetic defense of ACOG, you have not provided any comment on why the extra tickets weren't
offered to the FairTix participants first.

Guess that one's kinda tough to defend, huh?

JQC

 
 
 

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Post by ChrisC10 » Fri, 05 Jul 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

>Total bullshit, Steve. We sent in 10 separate applications for 2 tix
>each, on the first day they accepted apps. $150.00 just in application
>fees, and a whopping $12,720.00 for 20 opening ceremonies tix. Guess how
>many we got?
>Let me assure you with certainty, someone will probably go to prison
>when the ugly truth oozes out after the games, when 60 Minutes does a
>little snooping around.

(worthless drivel deleted...)

Quote:
>statement released sometime next year for ACOG. You'll see why the
>FairTix creation was a brilliant scam to provide working cash capital
>when corporate sponsorships weren't selling very well.

Does anyone else find it humorous that this BOZO is saying that ACOG is
scamming people?  If I read his post correctly, it was he who fraudulently
mailed in 10 different ticket applications, when each person was only
allowed one.  Tell me Mr. John Q. Customer: Who is scamming who?

Serves him right.   HAHAHAHA!

 
 
 

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Post by Jules R » Fri, 05 Jul 1996 04:00:00

Quote:


>Subject: Re: Another victory for the consumer!
>Date: 4 Jul 1996 10:46:35 -0400

>>Total bullshit, Steve. We sent in 10 separate applications for 2 tix
>>each, on the first day they accepted apps. $150.00 just in application
>>fees, and a whopping $12,720.00 for 20 opening ceremonies tix. Guess how
>>many we got?
>>Let me assure you with certainty, someone will probably go to prison
>>when the ugly truth oozes out after the games, when 60 Minutes does a
>>little snooping around.
>(worthless drivel deleted...)

>>statement released sometime next year for ACOG. You'll see why the
>>FairTix creation was a brilliant scam to provide working cash capital
>>when corporate sponsorships weren't selling very well.
>Does anyone else find it humorous that this BOZO is saying that ACOG is
>scamming people?  If I read his post correctly, it was he who fraudulently
>mailed in 10 different ticket applications, when each person was only
>allowed one.  Tell me Mr. John Q. Customer: Who is scamming who?
>Serves him right.   HAHAHAHA!

I'am afraid John is right. I was just a regular fan, requesting tickets for
many events during the bogus ACOG lottery a year ago. They kept  $1250 of my
money for 4 months and thereafter I received a letter that stated that I got
no tickets. Moreover, I was charged for a calendar   I didn't  
ordered.  Despite the fact I received several catalogs selling Olympic
products I was not informed that tickets for all events I requested were open
for sale months later.  Obviously, it was not convenient for the ACOG to sell
tickets to a person that had already paid the  $10  application fee.
No doubt that this is a scam of olympic magnitude.

Jules

 
 
 

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Post by John Q. Custome » Fri, 05 Jul 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

> (worthless drivel deleted...)

> Does anyone else find it humorous that this BOZO is saying that ACOG is
> scamming people?

Not really, most of us already know.

Quote:
>If I read his post correctly, it was he who fraudulently mailed in 10 different ticket applications, when
>each person was only allowed one.  Tell me Mr. John Q. Customer: Who is scamming who?

Accusations of fraud Chris? I'm sorry that your ignorance and mindless following of mainstream beliefs in Good
Government and Good Corporations has made you appear so rediculous in your follow up post.

You correctly stated that each person was allowed one application for two tickets. Then, you were no longer
able to hide your intellectual deficiency by immediately responding with accusations of fraud. ACOG was a
little smarter than that, and required different names, mailing addresses, social security numbers, mother's
maiden names, etc. for each application. My entire family, mom/dad, two sets of grandparents, 4 uncles, 3
aunts, and a truckload of kids, got together three years ago and planned our family reunion for the Olympics
in Atlanta.

I swam for the U.S. in the 72 Munich Games, and the Olympics have been part of my family for 30 years. Our ten
applications were compiled of ten totally different groups of people, from different parts of the World, all
coming as individuals to Atlanta. We actually had 46 family members for only 20 possible tickets. And we
really only expected to get 2 or 4. Unfortunately, Chris, your claims of fraud appear to be completely
baseless. And then, your sad comment which really shows us all your flying colors:

Quote:

> Serves him right.   HAHAHAHA!

What a shame......

Keep your head up though, Chris. Maybe after you finish your next bong hit, you can go to some other newsgroup
and post some more ignorance.

JQC

 
 
 

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Post by Marcos H. Woehrma » Sat, 06 Jul 1996 04:00:00



Quote:

>And still in your pathetic defense of ACOG, you have not provided any comment on why the extra tickets weren't
>offered to the FairTix participants first.

The Opening Ceremonies tickets were first offered to people who did
not receive tickets via FairTix.  I was offered two tickets and bought
them.  However, according to reports I've read, very few people who
were offered the tickets bought them.  Speculation was that people
had spent their Olympic ticket budget on other events and therefore
couldn't afford them (in my case I almost didn't buy the tickets
because my travel plans were already set (and I have non-changeable
airline tickets), however my flight is scheduled to land in Atlanta
3 hours before the opening ceremonies begin and the person I spoke
with said that was enough time).

I believe the tickets that weren't bought in this second round
were not made available to other FairTix participants because of
time constraints.  Assuming it takes 3 or 4 days to prepare and mail
the offer forms, then allow people 3 or 4 days to decide they
want to order, and allowing another 4 days for the mail to get back
means that it takes 12 business days (i.e. two weeks) to do all this.

I think a "fair" thing to have done would have been to mail all the
FairTix participants who wanted opening ceremony tickets but didn't
get them a notice saying tickets will go on sale on June XX, you
can call 404-744-xxxx after 9:00am EDT and buy tickets, but be
advised that a bizillion other people will be calling so there are
no guarantees.

marcos

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Post by Pete » Sat, 06 Jul 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

> Total bullshit, Steve. We sent in 10 separate applications for 2 tix
> each, on the first day they accepted apps. $150.00 just in application
> fees, and a whopping $12,720.00 for 20 opening ceremonies tix. Guess how
> many we got?

> And do you think they called one of my customer numbers to offer me any
> extras?

> I read about it in the paper, and luckily called in and got 4.

> Let me assure you with certainty, someone will probably go to prison
> when the ugly truth oozes out after the games, when 60 Minutes does a
> little snooping around.

> Check the interest on deposits held account in the final financial
> statement released sometime next year for ACOG. You'll see why the
> FairTix creation was a brilliant scam to provide working cash capital
> when corporate sponsorships weren't selling very well.

> And do you think there were really 3000 seats reserved for camera stands
> in the opening ceremonies? As if their scam isn't bad enough, then they
> feed me some shit like that.

> Unfortunately, those 3000 seats (which were really reserved for
> corporate packages they couldn't sell) had been reserved for some
> wannabe corporate yuppie and his company willing to pay an assanine
> amount for a tent and some tickets. All while my money was paying the
> sales rep's salary.

> It's OK, though, Billy Payne will make sure somebody (not him) takes the
> fall. He's good at that, you know.

Use your real name John Q Customer !!! It's really Andrew Jennings isnt
it !!!!  Who's that may you ask ???

Thats the idiot that wrote "lords of the rings" !! Q. How do you have a
dope free olympics ?? A. Dont invite Andrew Jennings.

 
 
 

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Post by John Q. Custome » Sat, 06 Jul 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

> The Opening Ceremonies tickets were first offered to people who did
> not receive tickets via FairTix.  

This is simply not true. Get your facts straight before you post like you know something.

I was offered two tickets and bought

Quote:
> them.  However, according to reports I've read, very few people who
> were offered the tickets bought them.

What report are you reading, the ACOG Daily Press Release?

  Speculation was that people

Quote:
> had spent their Olympic ticket budget on other events and therefore
> couldn't afford them

God Marcos, how gullible are you? Our group holds ten customer numbers, all of which requested Openings in
FairTix (to no avail), NONE of which were contacted or offered tickets to anything. You are the only person I
have even heard of that claims to have been contacted by ACOG to buy extra ceremony tickets. The fact simply
is, IT DIDN'T HAPPEN THAT WAY!

Remember kiddies, watch all the ugly truth ooze out on 60 Minutes sometime in April or May of next year.

JQC

 
 
 

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Post by jon » Sat, 06 Jul 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

> airline tickets), however my flight is scheduled to land in Atlanta
> 3 hours before the opening ceremonies begin and the person I spoke
> with said that was enough time).

Three hours...good luck!  I can just imagine the signs on the computer
terminals for the ACOG phone operators - "Tell them it's a 20 minute
MARTA ride from the airport to the stadium."

There are probably more planes scheduled to land at Hartsfield on Fri. July
19, than ever before on a single day.  This will be the first delay you
encounter.  Once you do land, remember, Hartsfield is one of THE WORST
airports in which to get around.  Thus, another delay.  Waiting on baggage?  
With more passengers than ever before in a single day, I'm sure baggage
delays will be tremendous.  Finally, how do you get from the airport to the
stadium, cab or MARTA?  Cab is definitely out, traffic will be horrible.  
MARTA is the answer, but I have read here and elsewhere that ACOG and
MARTA officials expect the usual 20 minute MARTA ride to take 2 hrs.  
Then, when you get to the stadium, where will you put your luggage, cause
you can't take it with you - it might actually contain something to eat!

You do have one thing going for you however, you may actually have 4 hrs
instead of only 3.  Apparently the 7:30 start time for the opening
ceremonies is fictitious.  Supposedly, NBC wants all the seats filled when
they begin their broadcast so they had ACOG list the start as 7:30 instead of
8:30 when it really begins.  It probably didn't take too much arm-twisting
on NBC's part however, because let's see...1 extra hour in the heat (yes,
the heat index is often still above 100 after 7:00 in July in Atlanta)
probably means 1 or 2 extra sodas for each of 85,000 suckers (I mean
fans) at a cost of $4.00...yeah, I'm sure ACOG loved the idea.

Anyway, good luck!

 
 
 

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Post by Marcos H. Woehrma » Sun, 07 Jul 1996 04:00:00



Quote:

>> The Opening Ceremonies tickets were first offered to people who did
>> not receive tickets via FairTix.  

>This is simply not true. Get your facts straight before you post like you know something.

It is true.  I was offered the tickets.  (I suppose I could have been
brain-washed to make me think I remember being offered the tickets, but
if you believe that you have watched one episode of the X-Files too many).

Just because something doesn't happen to you doesn't make it not true.

Quote:

>>I was offered two tickets and bought
>> them.  However, according to reports I've read, very few people who
>> were offered the tickets bought them.

>What report are you reading, the ACOG Daily Press Release?

No, The Atlanta-Constitution Journal, which, based on the fact that they
publish articles which are negative towards the ACOG is not a
mouthpiece for the ACOG.
The actual quote from the article is:

    "In addition, a small number of ceremonies tickets were offered
     last month to ticket buyers who lost out in the FairTix lottery.
     Most of them turned down the offer, and now those tickets also
     are for sale."

The full article can be found at:
http://www.atlantagames.com/oly/tix/u21tixx.htm

Quote:

>God Marcos, how gullible are you? Our group holds ten customer numbers, all of which requested Openings in
>FairTix (to no avail), NONE of which were contacted or offered tickets to anything. You are the only person I
>have even heard of that claims to have been contacted by ACOG to buy extra ceremony tickets. The fact simply
>is, IT DIDN'T HAPPEN THAT WAY!

So what you are saying is that since I know ten people who  
play the lottery regularly, and because none of them has ever won
a million dollars there aren't any million dollar prizes?

BTW, I prefer "Marcos, God", but I guess "God Marcos" gets the point
across :-)

BTW^2, I'm pretty pissed at a lot of the things the ACOG did regarding
tickets sales; charging my credit card and then not issuing a refund
even AFTER I was notified that I was only getting 1/4 of the tickets
I ordered was amazingly blatant (did they really think I was going
to donate the >$2000 the them?).  

So the question I have for you is how many opening ceremony tickets
did you end up buying?  They were available for sale for about a week
(and may still be available, though now a bit more difficult since
you'll have to buy them in person).

marcos
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Post by John Q. Custome » Sun, 07 Jul 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

> if you believe that you have watched one episode of the X-Files too many).

> Just because something doesn't happen to you doesn't make it not true.

I love the XFiles!

Quote:
>     "In addition, a small number of ceremonies tickets were offered
>      last month to ticket buyers who lost out in the FairTix lottery.
>      Most of them turned down the offer, and now those tickets also
>      are for sale."

It's even more disgusting to think that they are trying to make the
public believe, through press releases to the AJC, that they offered
these tickets to everybody. They didn't! PERIOD. We have ten customer
numbers and Zero were offered tickets. I can state for fact that the
assertation that all FairTix participants were offered these extra
tickets is 100% absolute horse shit!

And the thought that they offered some people the tix is even more
disgusting that if they offered nobody the TIX. Who decided who got
called if everybody wasn't getting called. That a scam in itself!

Quote:
> So what you are saying is that since I know ten people who
> play the lottery regularly, and because none of them has ever won
> a million dollars there aren't any million dollar prizes?

No Marcos, that's not what I'm saying. I said that none of the 10 were
contacted about the extras, in direct rebuttal to your false claim that
they offered them to all FairTix participants and nobody could "afford"
them.

Quote:
> So the question I have for you is how many opening ceremony tickets
> did you end up buying?

We got 4, together believe it or not, after calling on the phone when
reading it in the paper.

I know you don't want to believe this, but ACOG screwed the public on
the FairTix program, and I happen to know that several "News" Shows are
planning stories on it as we speak. They're just waiting for the Games
to conclude, and then the hunt will begin!

JQC

 
 
 

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Post by Amy Handla » Tue, 16 Jul 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

> >Remember - ACOG is still selling tickets & will sell them at Games.
> >And, once games start and everyone is there - there probably will be
> >tickets everywhere!  People from all countries selling/trading!

> Right on!

> I have to congratulate the ACOG - they are carefully releasing tickets, so
> if you check the Olympic webpage (http://sales.atlanta.olympic.org) on a
> twice-daily basis, you will probably find what you want. Even if you don't
> have a secured Internet connection, you can peruse what is available "on the
> board" and head to the phone.

> Opening and closing ceremony tickets are still available at face value at
> the ACOG site.  I was lucky - we got the category 'B' tickets but they even
> had some 'C' tickets over the weekend.   For the most part, they are the
> pricey category 'A's.

> And for those of you who bought thousands of dollars of tickets hoping to rip
> off someone --

> a thumb of the nose to ya!   Looks like the scalping market has COLLAPSED!

> Greg CaliriThank you so much for the info!  I found some great weekend seats and

didn't get gouged for them.

Regards,
Amy Handlan