BOYCOTT NBC's PPV(was RE:Olympic Coverage)

BOYCOTT NBC's PPV(was RE:Olympic Coverage)

Post by Mark Shneyder 432-42 » Wed, 01 Jul 1992 00:04:03


Quote:

>I called my cable company recently 2 ask about the Triplecast.

I beleive that you can get all 3 channels for 16 days of coverage
for about $125(NBC quote) or $29.95 a day(sounds really bogus).

NBC paid something like $400 million for the rights to Barcelona.
It needs 2 million PPV subscribers to get all of the money back.
So far they only have 5,000(FIVE THOUSANDS) morons nationally who
apparently need to get a life and signed up for it. I mean,with all
the NBC regular 160 hour coverage how much more extra coverage can
a human absorb unless you're madly in love with some sport and can't
live without it like gymnastics which will total of 33 hours.

-Mark
Boycott NBC's PPV in '92!

 
 
 

BOYCOTT NBC's PPV(was RE:Olympic Coverage)

Post by Peter Wu » Wed, 01 Jul 1992 00:31:33


Quote:


>>I called my cable company recently 2 ask about the Triplecast.

>I beleive that you can get all 3 channels for 16 days of coverage
>for about $125(NBC quote) or $29.95 a day(sounds really bogus).

>NBC paid something like $400 million for the rights to Barcelona.
>It needs 2 million PPV subscribers to get all of the money back.
>So far they only have 5,000(FIVE THOUSANDS) morons nationally who
>apparently need to get a life and signed up for it. I mean,with all
>the NBC regular 160 hour coverage how much more extra coverage can
>a human absorb unless you're madly in love with some sport and can't
>live without it like gymnastics which will total of 33 hours.

>-Mark
>Boycott NBC's PPV in '92!

The thing that ticks me off about all this is that I would be interested in subscribing
if I can get just one channel.  In my case, the channel with the volleyball coverage, but do they give you the option, NNNOOOOOOO,  You have to buy the entire three channels
of coverage.  I thought the idea was to give people a choice,  WRONG!

Pete Wung

 
 
 

BOYCOTT NBC's PPV(was RE:Olympic Coverage)

Post by Bruce Glet » Wed, 01 Jul 1992 04:07:02


Quote:

>>I called my cable company recently 2 ask about the Triplecast.
>I beleive that you can get all 3 channels for 16 days of coverage
>for about $125(NBC quote) or $29.95 a day(sounds really bogus).
>NBC paid something like $400 million for the rights to Barcelona.
>It needs 2 million PPV subscribers to get all of the money back.
>So far they only have 5,000(FIVE THOUSANDS) morons nationally who
>apparently need to get a life and signed up for it. I mean,with all
>the NBC regular 160 hour coverage how much more extra coverage can
>a human absorb unless you're madly in love with some sport and can't
>live without it like gymnastics which will total of 33 hours.
>-Mark
>Boycott NBC's PPV in '92!

Well the regular network coverage will probably be the usual bunch of hype/***
with very little event coverage. I suspect that if you really want to see
much of the events, you will need the triple cast. I won't get it anyway.

 
 
 

BOYCOTT NBC's PPV(was RE:Olympic Coverage)

Post by Alex Beascoech » Wed, 01 Jul 1992 05:02:49


Quote:


>>I called my cable company recently 2 ask about the Triplecast.

>I beleive that you can get all 3 channels for 16 days of coverage
>for about $125(NBC quote) or $29.95 a day(sounds really bogus).

>NBC paid something like $400 million for the rights to Barcelona.
>It needs 2 million PPV subscribers to get all of the money back.
>So far they only have 5,000(FIVE THOUSANDS) morons nationally who
>apparently need to get a life and signed up for it. I mean,with all
>the NBC regular 160 hour coverage how much more extra coverage can
>a human absorb unless you're madly in love with some sport and can't
>live without it like gymnastics which will total of 33 hours.

>-Mark
>Boycott NBC's PPV in '92!

It does not seem to me that the triplecast is such a bad deal. Considering
the average quality of the network traditional coverage you could even be
saving money:

Triple Cast Facts (NYT):

-No commercials.        
        You do not get out of your house with an urge to riot the local mall.
-No personality features.
        Here you save at least $100 in post-telecast psycological counseling.
-No shifting between events
        You save more than $20 in tylenol tablets.

If you think that the 5000 people that got the triplecast are moroons, imagine
how many new ones the normal telecast will create...

Fortunately I go back to europe and I will get everything for free. It is a
pain that they will include comercials about every 20 minutes. But I guess
this is a big improvement compared to the 3 minutes bogus tv you get here for
every minute of real sports TV. If I had to stay I would get the triplecast
with a group of friends.
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Alex Beascoechea                        R.P.I
Alesey                                  "Just call me Paco"

 
 
 

BOYCOTT NBC's PPV(was RE:Olympic Coverage)

Post by Mark Shneyder 432-42 » Wed, 01 Jul 1992 08:23:55

Quote:

>It does not seem to me that the triplecast is such a bad deal. Considering
>the average quality of the network traditional coverage you could even be
>saving money:

How can you save money if you're paying for it?
Quote:

>Triple Cast Facts (NYT):

>-No commercials.    
>    You do not get out of your house with an urge to riot the local mall.

Sorry but some of the people who work for the Times are so out of touch
with reality that it makes George Bush look like a genius.

Quote:
>-No personality features.
>    Here you save at least $100 in post-telecast psycological counseling.

Yeh,I guess if you live in NYC and the only extracuricular activity of note is
is going to see a shrink twice a week,and jogging away from muggers in
Central Park is close second, then I guess being glued to TripleCast is
worth it.

Quote:
>-No shifting between events
>    You save more than $20 in tylenol tablets.

You'll need Advil after shifting between 3 PPV channels. I hope these people
from the Times can handle it. It looks like a pretty strenious activity
sitting around for 12 straight hours following two former Russian discus
throwers, Natasha and Elena, who came to Barcelona just like thousands
of other former Eastern Bloc ex-steroid monkeys to forget about the
misery back home and maybe get noticed in the West and enjoy some world
attention for 2 weeks because at home they're despised like a bad
disease.

Quote:

>If you think that the 5000 people that got the triplecast are moroons, imagine
>how many new ones the normal telecast will create...

Not many, because they weren't dumb enough to sink to lower level of
the game called 'Get a Life'.

Quote:

>Fortunately I go back to europe and I will get everything for free. It is a

Adios,Amigo and we'll leave the light on for you...

Quote:
>Alex Beascoechea                    R.P.I

                                        ^^^^^
Oh you live in Troy-Schenectady area, no wonder that TripleCast doesn't
seem like a bad option anymore. I did my time down there for three years,but
I've escaped and now I have a life :-)....

-Mark.

 
 
 

BOYCOTT NBC's PPV(was RE:Olympic Coverage)

Post by Alex Beascoech » Wed, 01 Jul 1992 11:08:26


Quote:

>>It does not seem to me that the triplecast is such a bad deal. Considering
>>the average quality of the network traditional coverage you could even be
>>saving money:

>How can you save money if you're paying for it?

>>Triple Cast Facts (NYT):

>>-No commercials.        
>>        You do not get out of your house with an urge to riot the local mall.
>Sorry but some of the people who work for the Times are so out of touch
>with reality that it makes George Bush look like a genius.

>>-No personality features.
>>        Here you save at least $100 in post-telecast psycological counseling.
>Yeh,I guess if you live in NYC and the only extracuricular activity of note is
>is going to see a shrink twice a week,and jogging away from muggers in
>Central Park is close second, then I guess being glued to TripleCast is
>worth it.

>>-No shifting between events
>>        You save more than $20 in tylenol tablets.

>You'll need Advil after shifting between 3 PPV channels. I hope these people
>from the Times can handle it. It looks like a pretty strenious activity
>sitting around for 12 straight hours following two former Russian discus
>throwers, Natasha and Elena, who came to Barcelona just like thousands
>of other former Eastern Bloc ex-steroid monkeys to forget about the
>misery back home and maybe get noticed in the West and enjoy some world
>attention for 2 weeks because at home they're despised like a bad
>disease.

>>If you think that the 5000 people that got the triplecast are moroons, imagine
>>how many new ones the normal telecast will create...

>Not many, because they weren't dumb enough to sink to lower level of
>the game called 'Get a Life'.

>>Fortunately I go back to europe and I will get everything for free. It is a
>Adios,Amigo and we'll leave the light on for you...

>>Alex Beascoechea                        R.P.I
>                                        ^^^^^
>Oh you live in Troy-Schenectady area, no wonder that TripleCast doesn't
>seem like a bad option anymore. I did my time down there for three years,but
>I've escaped and now I have a life :-)....

>-Mark.

Ha,Ha!!! Just in case it was not clear the NYT section were the ones with the
dash. The comments were my own. So I accept all the intelligent replies like
this one.
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Alex Beascoechea                        R.P.I
Alesey                                  "Just call me Paco"

 
 
 

BOYCOTT NBC's PPV(was RE:Olympic Coverage)

Post by John Sul » Wed, 01 Jul 1992 14:31:18


Quote:
>NBC paid something like $400 million for the rights to Barcelona.
>It needs 2 million PPV subscribers to get all of the money back.
>So far they only have 5,000(FIVE THOUSANDS) morons nationally who
>apparently need to get a life and signed up for it. I mean,with all
>the NBC regular 160 hour coverage how much more extra coverage can
>a human absorb unless you're madly in love with some sport and can't
>live without it like gymnastics which will total of 33 hours.

Well, since NBC isn't carrying yachting (admitidly a sport of limited
appeal) I called up the 800 number to see if the PPV might be
carrying it.  If so I was willing to pay for the yachting events.
Guess what?  No yachting.  Just the same sports NBC is carrying on
the network.  Ask whether I wanted to pay.

John

 
 
 

BOYCOTT NBC's PPV(was RE:Olympic Coverage)

Post by Colin Morr » Thu, 02 Jul 1992 02:21:47

Quote:


>>NBC paid something like $400 million for the rights to Barcelona.
>>It needs 2 million PPV subscribers to get all of the money back.
>>So far they only have 5,000(FIVE THOUSANDS) morons nationally who
>>apparently need to get a life and signed up for it. I mean,with all
>>the NBC regular 160 hour coverage how much more extra coverage can
>>a human absorb unless you're madly in love with some sport and can't
>>live without it like gymnastics which will total of 33 hours.

>Well, since NBC isn't carrying yachting (admitidly a sport of limited
>appeal) I called up the 800 number to see if the PPV might be
>carrying it.  If so I was willing to pay for the yachting events.
>Guess what?  No yachting.  Just the same sports NBC is carrying on
>the network.  Ask whether I wanted to pay.

And, if my program is to be believed, no field hockey, shooting or
rowing etc, but a concentration on "US teams and the sports you
want". As you say, more of what network NBC is carrying with a
suspicion that it's going to be even more overloaded with American
participants regardless of their abilities. Sigh. I always look on the
Olympics as an opportunity to view minority sports that normally get
little or no coverage; you'd think with 3 channels to play with they'd
see to showing some of these.

I didn't know whether to laugh or cry when I got my Triplecast program
from my cable company. "Announcing the World's first commercial free
Olympics" is emblazened on the cover. Funny that, I never saw any
commercials during any Olympic coverage until I moved to the States.
Am I to assume that this aforesaid "world" is roughly the same one
whose baseball teams are able to play in the World Series?

--

"America need not wonder why its reputation in some quarters as a
free-firing bully has proved so difficult to lose" -- The Economist

 
 
 

BOYCOTT NBC's PPV(was RE:Olympic Coverage)

Post by vla » Thu, 02 Jul 1992 09:26:10


Quote:
>So far they only have 5,000(FIVE THOUSANDS) morons nationally who
>apparently need to get a life and signed up for it. I mean,with all
>the NBC regular 160 hour coverage how much more extra coverage can
>a human absorb unless you're madly in love with some sport and can't
>live without it like gymnastics which will total of 33 hours.

Wait. You are talking about 160 hours of TV time, right? But recall that in
the past, actual coverage of Olympic competition made up less than 5% of
that time. Thus, 160 hours amount to 8 hours of action. Over 16 days. Not
that much. Of course, in order to get these morsels you have to sieve
through 152 hours of garbage...

Similarly, I expect that the 33 gymnastics hours will be mostly devoted to
"up close and personal" features, which acquaint us with the competitors
and their favorite techniques for putting clothes on, going to the bathroom,
and brushing teeth... Thus, there may be about 3 or 4 hours of action out
of 33.

Employer disagrees

 
 
 

BOYCOTT NBC's PPV(was RE:Olympic Coverage)

Post by vla » Thu, 02 Jul 1992 09:39:42


Quote:

>>It does not seem to me that the triplecast is such a bad deal. Considering
>>the average quality of the network traditional coverage you could even be
>>saving money:
>It looks like a pretty strenious activity
>sitting around for 12 straight hours following two former Russian discus
>throwers, Natasha and Elena, who came to Barcelona just like thousands
>of other former Eastern Bloc ex-steroid monkeys to forget about the
>misery back home and maybe get noticed in the West and enjoy some world
>attention for 2 weeks because at home they're despised like a bad
>disease.

Wait a second? Who are these  Natasha and Elena? The only " ex-steroid
monkeys" that I am aware of in track&field are named Reynolds and Johnson
and they do not come from Russia but from US and Canada...

Quote:
>>Fortunately I go back to europe and I will get everything for free. It is a
>Adios,Amigo and we'll leave the light on for you...

>>Alex Beascoechea                        R.P.I
>                                        ^^^^^
>Oh you live in Troy-Schenectady area, no wonder that TripleCast doesn't
>seem like a bad option anymore. I did my time down there for three years,but
>I've escaped and now I have a life :-)....

What life? Your new compain to "boycott NBC" for its audacity to offer us
more coverage than we need?

I can just imagine poor Alex with no life, enjoying himself in Madrid or
wherever he is going to, and you having life pacing in front of the NBC
building for the next month with a slogan: "These NBC pigs are offering 3
channels! That is too much! Boycott them!" :-)

You must be REAL glad you are not in Troy anymore. They have no NBC
building there and thus no life.... :-)

In any case, congratulations: your message must have broken the latest
world record for the number of people and places that you manage to insult
in one try.

Employer disagrees

 
 
 

BOYCOTT NBC's PPV(was RE:Olympic Coverage)

Post by Mark Shneyder 432-42 » Thu, 02 Jul 1992 23:30:07

Quote:

>What life? Your new compain to "boycott NBC" for its audacity to offer us
>more coverage than we need?

No,Vlad. To boycott their PPV for their audacity to charge people like
you and me for what other countries see for free. Also, if you think
you're gonna get all the sports events involving "non-Americans" in the
1,080 hours of TripleCast coverage,you're sadly mistaken. Most of the coverage
will be on the Americans on all 3 channels.

Quote:

>I can just imagine poor Alex with no life, enjoying himself in Madrid or
>wherever he is going to, and you having life pacing in front of the NBC
>building for the next month with a slogan: "These NBC pigs are offering 3
>channels! That is too much! Boycott them!" :-)

Your sarcasm is pretty unimaginative. I'm not subscribing to their
ripoff PPV and that's how I plan to boycott them. Even if I did
subscribe, I couldn't possibly sit in front of TV for 12 hours day.
Some of us have to work and do other things that don't involve
compulsive television viewing.

Quote:

>In any case, congratulations: your message must have broken the latest
>world record for the number of people and places that you manage to insult
>in one try.

Nope,you're still way in front. Catching up to you will take alot. I
better increase my training levels. Plus your sarcasm is really getting
lame. Get a new hobby quick and try to speak for yourself in the future.
I'll handle the people I've insulted.

Quote:

>Employer disagrees

Good. It wouuld be too much too handle both of you.

-Mark

 
 
 

BOYCOTT NBC's PPV(was RE:Olympic Coverage)

Post by Kimmo Tamme » Thu, 02 Jul 1992 20:21:01


432-4219) said:
Quote:

>NBC paid something like $400 million for the rights to Barcelona.
>It needs 2 million PPV subscribers to get all of the money back.
>So far they only have 5,000(FIVE THOUSANDS) morons nationally who
>apparently need to get a life and signed up for it. I mean,with all
>the NBC regular 160 hour coverage how much more extra coverage can
>a human absorb unless you're madly in love with some sport and can't
>live without it like gymnastics which will total of 33 hours.

The reason for some viewers to subscribe to Triplecast is to avoid the endless
TV ads in regular programming.  From past experience (1988 summer and 1992 wint
er games) there is nothing more irritating than watching the "This Bud is for y
ou" brainwashing when your  favorite athlete is performing. Thus, cable is an a
lternative to viewers who wish enjoy commercial free (although expensive) Olymp
ic Games.


 
 
 

BOYCOTT NBC's PPV(was RE:Olympic Coverage)

Post by Rachele Harle » Fri, 03 Jul 1992 00:44:03

|> Similarly, I expect that the 33 gymnastics hours will be mostly devoted to
|> "up close and personal" features, which acquaint us with the competitors
|> and their favorite techniques for putting clothes on, going to the bathroom,
|> and brushing teeth... Thus, there may be about 3 or 4 hours of action out
|> of 33.

NBC promised (or at least I heard they promised) to show *every*
gymnastics routine performed by an American athlete live on PPV.  This
means at least 150 routines, and it would be safe to throw in an extra 10
routines or so if you account for event finals.  Then of course they won't
show only Americans.  We're talking well over 200 routines here, perhaps even
over 300, which would be unheard of on network television.

I do not know exactly how NBC will be running their PPV, ie if they are
going to do a lot of those personality profiles or if they will show The
Real Stuff.  If NBC delivers what they have been advertising, the PPV will
be good solid sports coverage.  

It will be interesting when the Olympics comes around (just 25 days!), to
hear some reports from people who got the PPV on whether or not it was worth
it.  I vote with the guy who said he'd get it with friends... although
we should not have to pay for what other countries get for free, $125 split
three or four ways is not too bad.

Rachele Harless

 
 
 

BOYCOTT NBC's PPV(was RE:Olympic Coverage)

Post by Mark Shneyder 432-42 » Fri, 03 Jul 1992 00:55:30

Quote:

>The reason for some viewers to subscribe to Triplecast is to avoid the endless
>TV ads in regular programming.  From past experience (1988 summer and 1992 wint
>er games) there is nothing more irritating than watching the "This Bud is for y
>ou" brainwashing when your  favorite athlete is performing. Thus, cable is an a
>lternative to viewers who wish enjoy commercial free (although expensive) Olymp
>ic Games.



Kimmo,

It's a catch-22 situation, where NBC spends a fortune and plus with
production costs in the neighborhood of 100 million dollars to film
pre-competition feature stories,to transport and house its staff
in Barcelona for the whole summer,salaries to its top analysts,
doing its own end-production and editing instead of simply taking
the Euro-backhaul feed. Someone has to foot the bill. The logical choice
are the advertisers. In return,the viewers are bombarded with ads every
10 to 15 minutes.

 This year for the first time,it will be the viewers that NBC will
approach direcly thru PPV to recoup its costs. As of now,Olympic PPV
appears to be the biggest marketing disaster as far as American television
sports coverage goes.

CBS did the smart thing with the Winter Games and sold a big part of it
to cable(TNT) where as NBC is trying "innovative" at the wrong time(bad economy)
and the wrong place(time difference;most people in the States will see a taped
PPV coverage when they get home at 6 o'clock from work;the 'live' appeal
won't be there)

-Mark.