Chinese men runner drug using problems

Chinese men runner drug using problems

Post by Zi-Wei Ya » Mon, 17 Oct 1994 04:17:20



:> A little known chinese men runner won the 3000 m race with a new game
:> record in the Asian game yesterday.

:I bet that record was really tough too.  Who set the record?  A Bhutani?
:An Uzbekistani perhaps.  Bet it was a well known figure on the world
:scene though.  And did he beat the record by 42 seconds like Wang
:Juxia did last year (admittedly in the 10,000)?  Or did 4 teammates also
:break the record like the women managed with the WORLD record
:last year?  Surely if we are to believe the stuff we hear about the men
:and women performing along the same lines, just at different levels,
:we should expect the male records to be smashed, not just beaten.

We will wait and see. I hope you won't be too shocked if that really happen
several years later. What counts here is the trend. China was very weak in
men's track events even in Asia in the past, they did not win a single medal
in events longer than 400m in all previous Asian games and Asian Champion-
ships. Now Mu Weiguo who only has trained under Coach Ma for 6 months,
improved China's national record in 800m by 2 seconds and won the silver
medal in Hiroshima. Sun Ripeng came out of nowhere to beat the old Asian
games record in 3000m steeplechase by 3 seconds and won the gold. I have no
doubt that this trend will continue.

:  And this is only the Asian Games - much lower level than the World
:Record.  Surely they could do better than a single runner taking a small
:amount off an "easy record".

:And figures from todays paper - (Sydney Morning Herald) - there is not
:one Chinese male runner in the world top 60 in any event from 800m
:to 10,000m

After this Asian Games, there will be some.

:> He was the newset memeber of Coach
:> Ma's team and has trained under Coach Ma for only half a year.  Well,
:> since some accusision about Ma's female players using drug to set up
:> records,  I wander what kind of drug  Ma has used on his male runner this
:> time. Any suggestions?

:Maybe this guy was a Tibetan.  The Chinese have certainly taught the
:Tibetan people how to run.

If you want to pollute your mind with politics, go ahead, there is a
newsgroup called talk.politics.tibet. It's more suitable for you than this
one.

:As to an actual drug, well erythropoeitin would be a good start for a
:middle distance runner.  Steroids might help recovery after hard
:training.  *** doping (also illegal) should help too.  Although I don't
:necessarily believe he is doing ***, you did ask.

Thanks for lending your secret methods to us. I'm really appreciated.

 
 
 

Chinese men runner drug using problems

Post by Longb » Mon, 17 Oct 1994 04:59:22

Quote:
>I bet that record was really tough too.  Who set the record?  A Bhutani?
>An Uzbekistani perhaps.  Bet it was a well known figure on the world
>scene though.  And did he beat the record by 42 seconds like Wang
>Juxia did last year (admittedly in the 10,000)?  Or did 4 teammates also
> break the record like the women managed with the WORLD record
> last year?  Surely if we are to believe the stuff we hear about the men
>and women performing along the same lines, just at different levels,
>we should expect the male records to be smashed, not just beaten.

>And this is only the Asian Games - much lower level than the World
>Record.  Surely they could do better than a single runner taking a small
>amount off an "easy record".

        How 'EASY' is it? Do you know what a 'record' means? that means
that is the best any Asian athlet can do so far. He broke it means he is the
best ever.
        Coach Ma was coaching a women's team of 12 girls. 5 of them smashed
the WR last year. The drug aligation challenged him to try his training on
male athlets, that's exactly what he did. He added two male athlets to his
team. ONLY 2. After 6 months, one got siver in 800m with an Asiad record
time, but didn't get the credit,because of the gold medalist was faster; the
other won the 3000 steeplchase, whom you were just talking about. So coach
Ma is 2 for 2. What else you want him to deliver?
Quote:
>And figures from todays paper - (Sydney Morning Herald) - there is not
>one Chinese male runner in the world top 60 in any event from 800m
>to 10,000m

>> He was the newset memeber of Coach
>> Ma's team and has trained under Coach Ma for only half a year.  Well,
>> since some accusision about Ma's female players using drug to set up
>> records,  I wander what kind of drug  Ma has used on his male runner this
>> time. Any suggestions?

>Maybe this guy was a Tibetan.  The Chinese have certainly taught the
>Tibetan
>people how to run.

        He is definitely not an Aussi., because people from that sub-nation
never got the chance to be in the race. They are soooo used to be a puppy
under the American's ass, and never got the backbone to stand up to give
a humane comment.
        Now, their master is beaten badly by the Chinese in the pool, and
on the track. So what a lackey can do, BITE THE CHINESE. THE Aussi's
swimming coach did, now here comes another dogflea.
        Watch out! Some Chinese eat dog meat.

Quote:
>As to an actual drug, well erythropoeitin would be a good start for a
>middle
>distance runner.  Steroids might help recovery after hard training.  ***
>doping (also illegal) should help too.  Although I don't necessarily
>believe
>he is doing ***, you did ask.

        No, he didn't use *** doping, he ate a lot of dog meat instead.

 
 
 

Chinese men runner drug using problems

Post by Mike » Sat, 15 Oct 1994 19:24:44

A little known chinese men runner won the 3000 m race with a new game
record in the Asian game yesterday. He was the newset memeber of Coach
Ma's team and has trained under Coach Ma for only half a year.  Well,
since some accusision about Ma's female players using drug to set up
records,  I wander what kind of drug  Ma has used on his male runner this
time. Any suggestions?

--

 
 
 

Chinese men runner drug using problems

Post by Joshua Saunde » Tue, 18 Oct 1994 17:29:24



Quote:
> >I bet that record was really tough too.  Who set the record?  A Bhutani?
> >An Uzbekistani perhaps.  Bet it was a well known figure on the world
> >scene though.  And did he beat the record by 42 seconds like Wang
> >Juxia did last year (admittedly in the 10,000)?  Or did 4 teammates also
> > break the record like the women managed with the WORLD record
> > last year?  Surely if we are to believe the stuff we hear about the men
> >and women performing along the same lines, just at different levels,
> >we should expect the male records to be smashed, not just beaten.

> >And this is only the Asian Games - much lower level than the World
> >Record.  Surely they could do better than a single runner taking a small
> >amount off an "easy record".

>    How 'EASY' is it? Do you know what a 'record' means? that means
> that is the best any Asian athlet can do so far. He broke it means he is the
> best ever.

The point is that the Chinese men continually fail to perform at world
class.
Let me repeat.  Not one Chinese male in the top 60 in the events the
Chinese women dominate.

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 > >>I wander what kind of drug  Ma has used on his male runner this

Quote:
> >> time. Any suggestions?

> >Maybe this guy was a Tibetan.  The Chinese have certainly taught the
> >Tibetan
> >people how to run.

>    He is definitely not an Aussi., because people from that sub-nation
> never got the chance to be in the race. They are soooo used to be a puppy
> under the American's ass, and never got the backbone to stand up to give
> a humane comment.

Lucky we aren't racist around here.  :-)

Quote:
>    Now, their master is beaten badly by the Chinese in the pool, and
> on the track. So what a lackey can do, BITE THE CHINESE. THE Aussi's
> swimming coach did, now here comes another dogflea.
>    Watch out! Some Chinese eat dog meat.

Actually the Australian "master" would have to be Kieren Perkins.  And as
the only person who has beaten him over 400-1500m in the last 3 years is
Evgeni Sadovyi.  In Barcelona.  Oh and other Australians of course. But
Kieren is a man.  And due to the absolute lack of world class male Chinese
swimmers (and runners), he is not about to beaten by any Chinese male.  At
the present rate of progress I'd say the Chinese women will beat him first.

--
Joshua Saunders
Department of Pharmacology, Sydney University

 
 
 

Chinese men runner drug using problems

Post by Joshua Saunde » Sun, 16 Oct 1994 18:38:54


Quote:

> A little known chinese men runner won the 3000 m race with a new game
> record in the Asian game yesterday.

I bet that record was really tough too.  Who set the record?  A Bhutani?
An Uzbekistani perhaps.  Bet it was a well known figure on the world
scene though.  And did he beat the record by 42 seconds like Wang
Juxia did last year (admittedly in the 10,000)?  Or did 4 teammates also
 break the record like the women managed with the WORLD record
 last year?  Surely if we are to believe the stuff we hear about the men
and women performing along the same lines, just at different levels,
we should expect the male records to be smashed, not just beaten.

And this is only the Asian Games - much lower level than the World
Record.  Surely they could do better than a single runner taking a small
amount off an "easy record".

And figures from todays paper - (Sydney Morning Herald) - there is not
one Chinese male runner in the world top 60 in any event from 800m
to 10,000m

Quote:
> He was the newset memeber of Coach
> Ma's team and has trained under Coach Ma for only half a year.  Well,
> since some accusision about Ma's female players using drug to set up
> records,  I wander what kind of drug  Ma has used on his male runner this
> time. Any suggestions?

Maybe this guy was a Tibetan.  The Chinese have certainly taught the
Tibetan
people how to run.

As to an actual drug, well erythropoeitin would be a good start for a
middle
distance runner.  Steroids might help recovery after hard training.  ***
doping (also illegal) should help too.  Although I don't necessarily
believe
he is doing ***, you did ask.

--
Joshua Saunders
Department of Pharmacology, Sydney University

 
 
 

Chinese men runner drug using problems

Post by Matt Simmo » Wed, 19 Oct 1994 02:36:15

:       He is definitely not an Aussi., because people from that sub-nation
: never got the chance to be in the race. They are soooo used to be a puppy
: under the American's ass, and never got the backbone to stand up to give
: a humane comment.
<Stands up and looks under ass>
Hey, he's right!  There was a puppy under my ass!  No wonder it was so
hard to sit...  Exactly how long have y'all been there?

=)

 
 
 

Chinese men runner drug using problems

Post by liming zha » Thu, 20 Oct 1994 02:02:11


Quote:

> The point is that the Chinese men continually fail to perform at world
> class.

So what are you trying to say? American white men fail to perform at world
class in sprinting while american black dominate world sprinting. What can
you say about this? American blacks all on roids?

Quote:
> Let me repeat.  Not one Chinese male in the top 60 in the events the
> Chinese women dominate.

You are lying first. Several of Chinese men's performences in the lastest
asian gaim could have got into finals had they gone to Rome.

No american white male in the top 60 in sprinting that american blacks
dominate, please extract some conclusions out of it.

L. Zhang