Bull-fighting as a dying sport? (Re: Soccer as a dying sport? + Re: second world sport?)

Bull-fighting as a dying sport? (Re: Soccer as a dying sport? + Re: second world sport?)

Post by Stig Oppeda » Sun, 15 Feb 1998 04:00:00


Answers: "illiterally" and "hopefully", but "metaphorically, never".

This leads to the next question, of even greater importance: what is the
second world sport?

Factors such as filter disturbance, participant -> spectator potential,
and Abbot and Costellos Whos on first routine will of course
determine the objective answer, but they lie outside my particular
window of expertise, sitting on the ledge, freezing. I ignore them.

GRIDIRON FOOTBALL: if a week is a long time in politics, its at least a
quarter and a half in football. Does this make for an exciting sport?
Id answer yes, except that its a trick question - football is not a
sport. Football is business, and thats all it is. The fans dont
understand that. - Seattle linebacker, January 1996. The NFL is the
ideal to which all the other biz corps aspire.

A quick structuralist analysis of the typical traits of football and
other American sports is interesting:
- the abrupt start-stop action resembles a commercial/video/news flash
mentality
- players are controlled by an authoritarian, centralized regime
- uniformity, conformity, sacrifice and other military virtues are
stressed
- spectators are willingly manipulated
- the franchise owner is the natural recipient of the trophy (awarded
for top market position)
- words, once sacred, are reduced to meaningless entities (eg the "New
Orleans Mormons")
- media acquiescence: TV as vertically integrated marketing unit,
tabloid dope-pushers selling suffixes, etc

Any similarity to institutions or societies, living or comatose, is
purely coincidental.

BASKETBALL: a state of permanent change. Everything is EXCITING and
CRUCIAL and IN-YOUR-FACE and of no lasting importance. Basketball is
like a soap opera: Mike impresses the board with projected record
numbers for the first fiscal quarter, Denise is on the rebound and gets
mixed up with Chuck (we know its gonna end in tears), Toni goes for an
easy lay , Mike reverts to stealing, Olly's case gets thrown of court,
Chuck rejects Denise, someone takes a desperate shot... and we fade out
to a commercial break. All that in the first few minutes! Whew! So,
what's happening on "As The World Turns"?

BASEBALL: a single game is to a season as a yawn is to a dream. Nine
innings filled with one sales pitch after the other, ad infinitum.
Conveniently for the statmongers, the fundamental confrontation between
batter and pitcher can be represented as a digital model, eg runners on
2nd and 3rd (110), two out (10), a count of three (11) and one (01) =
110101101. Within this digital framework there are percentages and
averages to be reckoned with, i.e. the rational and the irrational as a
metaphor for math. Theres a reason its called "Americas national
pastime" rather than "Americas national sport".

Riddle me this, batmen: if the outfield watches the infield keep an eye
on the runner, who watches the watchers? Answer: the usher. You won't
find the nostalgic heart of baseball at the new multiplex ballpark, but
down at the movie theater watching "Eight Men Out", "Bull Durham", "The
Bad News Bears" - the list goes on. As does the distance in time.

CRICKET: the Masonic handshake of the Commonwealth.

RUGBY: repressed Victorian fantasy of a medieval revolt. The scrum as a
static, introspective, primitive village, the forwards as oppressed
serfs, the scrum-half as the rabble rouser who dissolves the feudal
bonds. The focus remains local and backwards, even when the social order
breaks down, with little vision and recognition of the outside world
limited to desperate kicks down field (often followed by a mad dash
after the Holy Grail).

Only the designated penalty-taker rises above this mass of grunting
peasants, asserting his individuality with the vision to see the world
as it really is. Through the ritual of altering leaden tries (3 pts)
into golden goals (5 pts), this subversive alchemist-type originally
***ed the Holy Trinity into the Satanic pentangle, subtly reflecting
Victorian depravity. Needless to say, millenarian tendencies have
resulted in a new 5/7 points spilt, i.e. the conversion of a sinful
world to a divine heaven.

Which is one way of saying that anything constructed can be
deconstructed.

ICE HOCKEY: the cut-throat attitude, dynamic counter-attacks, and
click-clack team work has inspired many political proverbs (Follow
the play, not the puck - A. Netter. Politics is the continuation of
hockey through other means - von Eisewitz. Punch swiftly and carry a
big stick - Bruisevelt.). Exciting as ice hockey is, Storm Troopers #
25, 26 and 28 have a tendency to look the same, and after a while the
action turns dj vu. Exciting as ice hockey is, Storm Troopers # 25, 26
and 28 have a tendency to look the same, and after a while the action
turns dj vu. Exciting as et cet.

HANDBALL: if basketball is a soap opera, then handball is a non-variety
show. There are all of three variations in the action: static
attack/defense formation, counter-attack through the midfield vacuum,
and penalty throw. Dull, dull, dull.

VOLLEYBALL: makes handball look varied.

TENNIS: little more than an algorithm demonstration.

  REPEAT
    IF DoubleFault THEN ByzantinePointSystem (ReturnersPoint)
    ELSE IF Ace THEN ByzantinePointSystem (ServersPoint)
    ELSE IF ClayCourt THEN BaselineBorathon
    ELSE FewSecondsOfVolleying
  UNTIL someone understands ByzantinePointSystem

For a traditional sport that was played way back in the court of Nat
King Cole, tennis has a remarkably low nostalgia factor. One reason is
that it, unlike baseball or cricket, is non-seasonal. More important is
that the repetitive ritual itself  is almost irrelevant to tenniss
raison d tre, the *** of the opponents ego; hardly the
grounds for wistfulness and sentimentality.

GOLF: the extravagant waste of time (= money) as status symbol.
Underlining that a mans fundamental worth is economic, PGA golfers are
officially ranked by their prize money.

SUMO WRESTLING: interesting as a sociological phenomenon; a comparative
study with sea elephant mating rituals could prove fruitful.

BOXING: the noble art of self-promotion, brought to you by Baskin
Limelight 31 Favors for a title bout. So where's the fascination in
watching two black guys (heavyweight division) or two Hispanics
(middleweight division) beat each other up, or seeing anyone beat the
***out of the great white dope (any weight division)? Answer: down in
the downtrodden psych of the lucky punch. The ***ic 12th round
comeback. The tax evasion-like feint. The Homeric grandeur... ruined by
the inflation, the irrelevance, the boredom, the fix, the deaths.

But are two words in any language more poetic, more grandiose, more
terrible than "Muhammad Ali"? I see only one contender: "cavalleria
rusticana".

MOTOR SPORTS: the never-ending battle of man and remote control. ferrari
hunk of junk no. 1 versus chanel metal no. 5. who will win? vroom vroom
vroom. vroom vroom vroom. pit stop in Marlboro Country. vroom vroom
vroom. vroom vroom vro-- crash! replay! reverse angle replay! overhead
replay! replay replay! wave the greenback flag. vroom vroom vroom. vroom
vroom vroom. finish line: Corporate Star wins by a length, closely
followed by Cig Exec!

ATHLETICS +: the non-autonomous sports. The action is irrelevant to the
information, and our reactions are based largely on the latter: times,
lengths, world records, status of the event, stage of the competition.
Theres a strong element of "seen one, seen em all", like hearing fifty
violinists in succession play the opening three minutes of Eine kleine
Nachtmusik.

Lets say you find yourself (by accident, presumably) watching
weightlifting. What you see is an endless procession of grunting, obtuse
East Europeans with sideburns lifting weights over their heads; how
much, and why, is impossible to determine. If its a 100-kg lift in the
Pan-Slavic championship, youd change channels; if its 400-kg in the
Olympics, youd be impressed (and shudder at the side effects that
steroid abuse inevitably causes). Its not what you see thats
important, its what youre told.

SUMMER OLYMPICS: an exciting 10-second sprint... and then theres the
other 1000 or so medals to hand out. Snooze.

WINTER OLYMPICS: an exciting 14-sport festival! Big enough to merit
attention, small enough to retain it. Nordic skiing is beautiful in
itself, and after a four-year restitution we once again immerse
ourselves in the delights of biathlon, speed-skating, and ice hockey!

What can I say? The semi-final in ladies curling between Denmark and
Sweden (7-5) sounded _thrilling_ to me. Just imagine: halfway through
the Winter Olympics, Denmark - who have never won anything in Winter
Olympic history - will go ahead of Sweden in the medal count, while
Norway went joint top on the all-time table. The Winter Olympics rule.

---
To sum up my answers on the SAT verbal abuse section:

  sport = empty language

  fanhood = rhapsody rumble

  Babe Ruth : Americana  <=>  Birger Ruud : det rotnorske

 ---Stig

 
 
 

Bull-fighting as a dying sport? (Re: Soccer as a dying sport? + Re: second world sport?)

Post by JerryBens » Sun, 15 Feb 1998 04:00:00

On Sat, 14 Feb 1998 13:40:14 +0100, Stig Oppedal

Quote:

>This leads to the next question, of even greater importance: what is the
>second world sport?

Pretty good analysis on your part of the various sports until you got
to the OLYMPICS portions...

Although an argument could be made for "first", I would have to give
at least a "second" place finish to that little followed sport of
BARREL JUMPING... You know... the one where the dude takes off like a
speed skater... jumps with the precision and timing of a downhill
skier... flies through the air with all the aerodynamic skill of a
figure skater doing a triple lutz... and lands on his ***9 times out
of 10....

However I do believe that your analysis of the sports you covered
indicates that you have either spent a lot of time watching them to
come up with your correct interpretations or you are some sort of
genius....

 
 
 

Bull-fighting as a dying sport? (Re: Soccer as a dying sport? + Re: second world sport?)

Post by chas » Mon, 16 Feb 1998 04:00:00

Chase no get it. Chase just like see big men hit.

now, gimme back my tail and quit trying to make me think :-)

-- chase

 
 
 

Bull-fighting as a dying sport? (Re: Soccer as a dying sport? + Re: second world sport?)

Post by Cris Whetston » Tue, 17 Feb 1998 04:00:00

Bull fighting a dying sport? Hell, I've never even considered it a
sport. What's so sporting about teasing an animal with a cape and then
stabbing it till it can't defend itself?
--
Cris Whetstone          ** To reply remove the * from my address**
Frank Catalanotto Fan Club
"Work is the curse of the drinking class." - Oscar Wilde

 
 
 

Bull-fighting as a dying sport? (Re: Soccer as a dying sport? + Re: second world sport?)

Post by Blair Rountr » Wed, 18 Feb 1998 04:00:00

Quote:

> CRICKET: the Masonic handshake of the Commonwealth.

What could possibly be better than five days of sporting entertainment? :)

Quote:
> RUGBY: repressed Victorian fantasy of a medieval revolt. The scrum as a
> static, introspective, primitive village, the forwards as oppressed
> serfs, the scrum-half as the rabble rouser who dissolves the feudal
> bonds. The focus remains local and backwards, even when the social order
> breaks down, with little vision and recognition of the outside world
> limited to desperate kicks down field (often followed by a mad dash
> after the Holy Grail).

> Only the designated penalty-taker rises above this mass of grunting
> peasants, asserting his individuality with the vision to see the world
> as it really is. Through the ritual of altering leaden tries (3 pts)
> into golden goals (5 pts), this subversive alchemist-type originally
> ***ed the Holy Trinity into the Satanic pentangle, subtly reflecting
> Victorian depravity. Needless to say, millenarian tendencies have
> resulted in a new 5/7 points spilt, i.e. the conversion of a sinful
> world to a divine heaven.

> Which is one way of saying that anything constructed can be
> deconstructed.

I think you need to watch some southern hemisphere rugby.

Rugby (with the possible exception of test cricket) is the greatest game
on the face of the planet, or at least much better than american football
(3 seconds of action, 5 minutes of commercials, 3 seconds of action...).
Rugby is almost like american football with no pads, no timeouts, no
substitutions, five or six basic rules, and athletes who can think and
run for more than 10 seconds in one go.

Blair.

 
 
 

Bull-fighting as a dying sport? (Re: Soccer as a dying sport? + Re: second world sport?)

Post by Umesh Reghura » Wed, 18 Feb 1998 04:00:00

Quote:

> Bull fighting a dying sport? Hell, I've never even considered it a
> sport. What's so sporting about teasing an animal with a cape and then
> stabbing it till it can't defend itself?

You forgot to mention the part about shaving the bull's horns so they
are less sharp and more dull...
 
 
 

Bull-fighting as a dying sport? (Re: Soccer as a dying sport? + Re: second world sport?)

Post by David Marc Niepore » Wed, 18 Feb 1998 04:00:00



Quote:
>Bull fighting a dying sport? Hell, I've never even considered it a
>sport. What's so sporting about teasing an animal with a cape and then
>stabbing it till it can't defend itself?

Well, if the animal were Pat Gillick, I'd play.
--
David M. Nieporent              How about that!  I looked something up!

1L - St. John's School of Law   office look good, they're filled with
                                useful legal tidbits just like that! - L Hutz
 
 
 

Bull-fighting as a dying sport? (Re: Soccer as a dying sport? + Re: second world sport?)

Post by Rafa » Wed, 18 Feb 1998 04:00:00

Quote:


> >Bull fighting a dying sport? Hell, I've never even considered it a
> >sport. What's so sporting about teasing an animal with a cape and then
> >stabbing it till it can't defend itself?

        Ah, but fox hunting is a sport, isn't it?

        I'm not a bull-fighting supporter, but I know it very well and
it's not so cruel as many other 'sports' well accepted.

        By the way, has it anything to do with these NGs?

        Rafa

 
 
 

Bull-fighting as a dying sport? (Re: Soccer as a dying sport? + Re: second world sport?)

Post by James Weisbe » Wed, 18 Feb 1998 04:00:00


Quote:



>> >Bull fighting a dying sport? Hell, I've never even considered it a
>> >sport. What's so sporting about teasing an animal with a cape and then
>> >stabbing it till it can't defend itself?

>    Ah, but fox hunting is a sport, isn't it?

>    I'm not a bull-fighting supporter, but I know it very well and
>it's not so cruel as many other 'sports' well accepted.

>    By the way, has it anything to do with these NGs?

[all hail to those seeing this coming from a mile away]

        Nothing, but the important question is how *evil* is
this sport in comparision to others?

[ ;-) x 1000 ]

--
World's Greatest Living Poster.

 
 
 

Bull-fighting as a dying sport? (Re: Soccer as a dying sport? + Re: second world sport?)

Post by Cris Whetston » Wed, 18 Feb 1998 04:00:00

Quote:





> >> >Bull fighting a dying sport? Hell, I've never even considered it a
> >> >sport. What's so sporting about teasing an animal with a cape and then
> >> >stabbing it till it can't defend itself?

> >       Ah, but fox hunting is a sport, isn't it?

> >       I'm not a bull-fighting supporter, but I know it very well and
> >it's not so cruel as many other 'sports' well accepted.

> >       By the way, has it anything to do with these NGs?

> [all hail to those seeing this coming from a mile away]

>         Nothing, but the important question is how *evil* is
> this sport in comparision to others?

> [ ;-) x 1000 ]

I think most of the regualr posters to r.s.b can be considered
professionals in the new sport of Weisberg fighting.  
--
Cris Whetstone          ** To reply remove the * from my address**


"Work is the curse of the drinking class." - Oscar Wilde
 
 
 

Bull-fighting as a dying sport? (Re: Soccer as a dying sport? + Re: second world sport?)

Post by James Weisbe » Wed, 18 Feb 1998 04:00:00



Quote:

>> [all hail to those seeing this coming from a mile away]

>>         Nothing, but the important question is how *evil* is
>> this sport in comparision to others?

>> [ ;-) x 1000 ]

>I think most of the regualr posters to r.s.b can be considered
>professionals in the new sport of Weisberg fighting.  

        You think you're a professional? Imagine how my
parents must feel! ;-)

--
World's Greatest Living Poster.

 
 
 

Bull-fighting as a dying sport? (Re: Soccer as a dying sport? + Re: second world sport?)

Post by Angu » Wed, 18 Feb 1998 04:00:00

Quote:

> [all hail to those seeing this coming from a mile away]

>         Nothing, but the important question is how *evil* is
> this sport in comparision to others?

> [ ;-) x 1000 ]

> --
> World's Greatest Living Poster.

..er James,

don't mean to distress you like but seems like you've a copyright
problem

Angus

recognised officially as the world greatest living imposter

 
 
 

Bull-fighting as a dying sport? (Re: Soccer as a dying sport? + Re: second world sport?)

Post by James Weisbe » Wed, 18 Feb 1998 04:00:00

Quote:


>> [all hail to those seeing this coming from a mile away]

>>         Nothing, but the important question is how *evil* is
>> this sport in comparision to others?

>> [ ;-) x 1000 ]

>> World's Greatest Living Poster.
>..er James,

>don't mean to distress you like but seems like you've a copyright
>problem

        Please direct all legal action to Don Malcolm. He
takes care of all my pseudonyms and rights thereof.

--
World's Greatest Living Poster.