Team Handball

Team Handball

Post by mtob.. » Sat, 09 Apr 1994 08:27:41


I was wondering if anybody could post or e-mail me a description
of this sport.  I recall seeing it once but I don't really remember
that much about it.  I would also be interested to see what people who
might be sports enthusiasts think of it.

Thanks in advance.

Marc


 
 
 

Team Handball

Post by robert.wei » Sun, 10 Apr 1994 02:43:05


Quote:
> I was wondering if anybody could post or e-mail me a description
> of this sport.  I recall seeing it once but I don't really remember
> that much about it.  I would also be interested to see what people who
> might be sports enthusiasts think of it.

> Thanks in advance.

> Marc



Great sport!!  I've never played it, and only seen it in the Olympics.
A little basketball, a little floor hockey, a little soccer.  Fast
action.  Lots of scoring.  Some good controversies.  Other than the
military academies in the USA, I don't know where it's played.

Somewhere I have a rulebook.  If no one else answers in detail,
I'll dig it out.

Robert Weisz
Naperville, Illinois USA

 
 
 

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Post by Mika Perki|m{ » Mon, 11 Apr 1994 22:44:30

: > I was wondering if anybody could post or e-mail me a description
: > of this sport.  I recall seeing it once but I don't really remember
: > that much about it.  I would also be interested to see what people who
: > might be sports enthusiasts think of it.

: Great sport!!  I've never played it, and only seen it in the Olympics.
: A little basketball, a little floor hockey, a little soccer.  Fast
: action.  Lots of scoring.  Some good controversies.  Other than the
: military academies in the USA, I don't know where it's played.

Why do they have goalies in handball?

----
Mika

 
 
 

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Post by mtob.. » Tue, 12 Apr 1994 12:39:04

Quote:


>: Great sport!!  I've never played it, and only seen it in the Olympics.
>: A little basketball, a little floor hockey, a little soccer.  Fast
>: action.  Lots of scoring.  Some good controversies.  Other than the
>: military academies in the USA, I don't know where it's played.

>Why do they have goalies in handball?

I posted the question about Team Handball because I don't know much about
except that it is played on a hardcourt that is somewhat larger than that of
a basketball court.  It was described to me as indoor lacross without the
sticks.  I was wondering if this was an appropriate description or not.

I've also been told by everybody that has ever seen a match is that it is
very fun to watch.  I was wondering why it hasn't caught on and the only
reason that I can think of is that it would tend to be a sport that interested
more men to participate.  The reason this is important is because with
the enforcement of men's and women's equality in sports it is almost impossible
to start up a new mens program at the collegiate level.  And without the
possibility of playing at a collegiate level I think it would prevent potential
athletes from playing this instead of scholarship sports like football and
basketball.

Well, I'm still interested in more specific rules.  Any ideas where I could
pick up a rule book?  And for those that know the sport why hasn't it caught
on in the U.S (and how is it perceived over seas?)?

Thanks again

Marc

 
 
 

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Post by Mike Kw » Wed, 13 Apr 1994 03:50:51


: >
: >Why do they have goalies in handball?
: >

: I posted the question about Team Handball because I don't know much about
: except that it is played on a hardcourt that is somewhat larger than that of
: a basketball court.  It was described to me as indoor lacross without the
: sticks.  I was wondering if this was an appropriate description or not.

Somewhat...more like water polo on a hardcourt.  The ball is like a small
soccer ball that you can palm (I have small hands and can barely do this).
You have a net/goal with a goalie and a semi-circle around the goal that
no one may enter.  However, you may jump into the semi-circle to shoot at
the goal, if you let go of the ball before toucing the floor inside of
the semi-circle.

Tactics are a little like water polo in that you usually set up a "hole"
player in front of the goal.  You generally pass the ball around while
feinting an attack.  You finally get a pass to a player with a clear
(most of the times not so clear) lane to the goal.  That player runs at
the semi-circle, leaping and loading to shoot.  They usually wait as
long as possible to let the shot go while waiting for the goalie to
commit to something (side to side, high or low).  

While with the ball, you can take some small number of steps (I can't
remember how many).  Then you have to either dribble the ball or pass it.

I'm no expert, I can't even recall how many players are on the court.
I took Team Handball classes while in Grad School at UC Santa Barbara
(when I wasn't surfing or playing volleyball...or even in class).  It
was a blast to play.

It's too bad that it isn't bigger in the US.  The AVERAGE US athletes
tend to do well in one very important aspect...we tend to be able to
throw the ball better than average athletes from other countries.  I'm
not talking about the Team Handball players from the clubs in Europe, but
I'm talking about the average joe who is reasonably athletic and gets out
on weekends but has a full time job.  Now this average joe wants to learn
to play Team Handball.  A very good friend of mine went to Sweden for a
year and got introduced to the game.  He's a very good athlete (he went
there to play pro basketball) with a good arm (plays right field on my
softball team).  He said that when he started throwing the ball, even the
club players over there cringed.  He talked with them and found that there
were very few sports that the Swedish players played while growing up where
they learned to throw hard in an overhand fashion.  

Any, I digress.  The game is fun for me to watch...I wish that there were
clubs here so that I could play.  The US has both a men's and a women's
national/Olympic team.  I think that one or the other may have qualified
for the last World Championships.  I'm in a great spot in that both the
teams train here in Colorado Springs and about once or twice a year we'll
get a four team, international Team Handball tournament here.  If the results
of these are any indication the US is improving.  I can't remember if we
ever won one of these tournaments (against national teams from mostly
Europe), but we also didn't always place last.

: Well, I'm still interested in more specific rules.  Any ideas where I could
: pick up a rule book?  And for those that know the sport why hasn't it caught
: on in the U.S (and how is it perceived over seas?)?

I think that you can find out everything you want to know from:

US Team Handball Federation
One Olympic Plaza
Colorado Springs, CO  80909
719/578-4582

This is the National Governing Body for Team Handball in the US (like the
USVBA is for Volleyball, USFSA is for Figure Skating, etc.)

Mike Kwan

 
 
 

Team Handball

Post by Luke Wildm » Fri, 15 Apr 1994 10:31:47

Quote:

>I was wondering if anybody could post or e-mail me a description
>of this sport.  I recall seeing it once but I don't really remember
>that much about it.  I would also be interested to see what people who
>might be sports enthusiasts think of it.
>Thanks in advance.
>Marc


Dear Marc,

(Team) Handball is not only the fastest and most exciting sport in the world
but it is also a great substitute for sex or working on your PhD.
The court is 40x20 m (two basketball courts) and features 2x3m goals at each
end. Each Goal is surrounded by a 6m goal area (2 6m radius arcs with center
= goal post joined by a tangent in the middle. Another arc, 9m from the posts,
lies outside the goal line. This is the free throw line and it is usually
dashed. A 1m long penalty throw line lies 7m in front of the goals. There
is also a halfway line with a center dot for the restart.

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        <-                  40m                   ->

There are 12 players on each team, 2 goal keepers and 10 field players.
There is one goal and a maximum of 6 field players at a time. Substitution
can occur at anytime so long as player-off before player-on.

The ball-playing rules are in 3's.
3 steps with the ball  (a full three steps too, landing after catching the
ball is step 0) but no pivoting like basketball.

3 seconds holding the ball.

3 m from the player when they are awarded a free throw. Hence the 9m line.
All free throws (not including 7m penalties) from fouls between the 9m line
and the 6m line go back to the 9m line. This is because the free thrower gets
three meters but the defender gets to stand on the 6m line in order to guard
the goal.

Dribbling is allowed (but slows down the ball, passing is better).
The ball must be patted down, not carried like in basketball.
No double dribble - the sequence of events with the ball can be
catch (ball under your control), 3 steps, dribble, catch, 3 steps,
- must pass or shoot.

No time waisting. There is no shot clock, but if the refs (there are two)
think you havn't been trying to score then you'll lose the ball. Whether
after 10seconds or 2 minutes.

If the ball goes out over the side (all the ball passes completely over)
then the other side gets it.
If the goal keeper directs it over the back line when saving the goal then
its still the goal keepers (unlike soccer). If the defenders direct it over
the back line in blocking a shot then it goes back to the attacker.
If the attacker misses and throws it ove rthe back line then they lose it of
course.

A goal is scored when it passes completely over the back goal line within the
goal.
Player resumes at the cewnter line with the non-scoring team in control of
the ball.

The goal keeper is the only player allowed in the goal area (6m semicircle).
(The goal area includes the line (10cm wide) so you can't contact any part
of the 6m line or inside it.)
They are also the only player allowed to touch the ball with their feet
(below the knees), but only to save a goal, not to direct it out of the goal
or to control the ball when it is not being shot at goal.

The attackers may shoot from in the air above the goal area but must shoot
before landing.
A defender (or an attacker can not pass through the goal area in order to get
an advantage at another spot, (no short cuts).
Casual entry into the goal area is OK. The rule only applies if you are seen
to gain some advantage by entry into the goal area.

The goal keeper can play as a field player, but the transition must by
without the ball, ie if the goal keeper comes out in control of the ball -
its a 9m foul. If they go in in control of the ball - its a 7m penalty.
If you pass the ball back to your own keeper when they are inside then its a
7m too.

Attacking fouls.
No bargeing or head ducking (lose the ball).
No  using the elbow or palming off.
No swiping away the defenders arms with your hands to get past them.
Basically just don't use your arms (that is if the ref sees you :-) )

The're are a few others, a rule book full, but they are the main things.

The only other one of major interest is how can one gain possesion of the
ball and block an attacking player.
Handball is basically a non-brutal contact sport, but non-brutal varies with
the strength and class of the players.
Theoretically one can only use your torso to block the path of any player.
If you use your arms to push or grab the player then its a free throw to the
attack. However, we don't have free throws at the goal like in basketball.
Usually its inside the 6m and you must go back to the 9 and start again, That
is you lose your momentum. So the refs allow play to continue if you are
still in control of the ball and can play on with out making too many steps
or touching down inside 6, or making a bad pass that get intercepted
basically because you were hit, ... , in summary, the attacker gets the
advantage.

If the defender fouls you while you're making a fairly certain shot at goal
then you get a 7m free throw. Thats just you and the keeper, no defenders.
plant one foot behind the 7m, wait for the whistle, you've got three seconds.
If you lift your planted foot (the forward one) then its not counted.
If you slide it onto or over the 7m line then its not counted.
If it bounces off the goal posts then its still in play.

The punsishment system : 1 warning (yellow card), 2 2-minute suspensions (2
fingers)
(ie second warning is 2 minutes), 1 disqualification (off forever but with
replacement after 2 minutes) (red card)(ie third 2
minutes is disqualification), and exclusion (crossed arms)(off forever but
without replacement (ie team plays with 1 less player for the rest of the game).

Simple fouls get no  punishment - ie checking player with arms
when they are in front of you by knocking the ball arm and controlling the
body. However the attack gets a free throw if they don't get advantage.
A warning is for something like pushing or holding the player while they try
to get away or checking from behind.
2 minutes or higher can be given  straight away for some more serious fouls,
ie brutal push (2minutes), punching or fighting (disqualification)
punching ref (exclusion and probably banned for life too).

Generally you only give 3 warnings to a team.

You don't give both advantage and a free throw either.
Basically if they get advantage and regain control of body and ball
then they're on their own.

Typically a shot at goal from 9m in which the arm gets hit while shooting,
and which misses, deserves a free throw.
A similarly fouled shot from 6m or closer (ie with no chance of a block from
a defender) deserves a 7m penalty. (This situation is good for wing shots which
have no angle in first place but get a penalty throw if fouled while jumping
in and shooting.)

Free throws (including penalties) and Punishments are sort of orthogonal.
Free throws are more about the right to play the ball without interference.
The punishments are more to do with brutality and player behavior.

Its pretty hard to explain these things in summary - you have to train hard
to be a good ref. It takes awhile to learn what applies when and where
because the situations can be quite complex.
Its also hard to see how a high level match arises from this summary of the
rules. Basically you have to see it. There are probably books in your library.

Anyway - there's a start. Anyone else interested in Handball?
How about rec.sport.handball? RFD ? CFV?

Luke
(Australian National Squad)
(Local Referee)

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Team Handball

Post by m.. » Fri, 15 Apr 1994 16:19:04

G'day,  (and hello, Luke!)

Quote:


>>I was wondering if anybody could post or e-mail me a description
>>of this sport.  I recall seeing it once but I don't really remember
>>that much about it.  I would also be interested to see what people who
>>might be sports enthusiasts think of it.

>>Thanks in advance.

> (Team) Handball is not only the fastest and most exciting sport in the world
> but it is also a great substitute for sex or working on your PhD.
> The court is 40x20 m (two basketball courts) and features 2x3m goals at each
> end. Each Goal is surrounded by a 6m goal area (2 6m radius arcs with center
> = goal post joined by a tangent in the middle. Another arc, 9m from the posts,
> lies outside the goal line. This is the free throw line and it is usually
> dashed. A 1m long penalty throw line lies 7m in front of the goals. There
> is also a halfway line with a center dot for the restart.

[ lots of the article deleted.... ]

One should also mention that the ball is of different size for the mens and
womans game.

I don't have the details of size and weight but with the men's ball it is about
the same size of a Size 4 soccer ball, but heavier; and the women's it is about
2cm smaller in diameter and much lighter.  When playing the game, you play with
and against some players who have tremenously strong arms and can throw the
ball with devestating clout (I have dislocated two of my fingers, but I still
play the game).  However, an accurate arm is just as hard to stop because it is
usually out the opponents reach.

The dress code is similar to soccer.  Each team has field players wearing
short-sleave shirts and shorts.  Socks vary from ankle size to shin length.
The goalkeeper must wear a different colour shirt/top to the both teams field
players.  Goalkeepers may use gloves for protection, but they tend to interfere
with the throwing of the ball.  So, the technique for a 'keeper is not to catch
the ball but to defect it over the crossbar or around the posts of the goal.

Quote:
> Its pretty hard to explain these things in summary - you have to train hard
> to be a good ref. It takes awhile to learn what applies when and where
> because the situations can be quite complex.
> Its also hard to see how a high level match arises from this summary of the
> rules. Basically you have to see it. There are probably books in your library.

Yes, a high level match is usually a fast moving one.  The ball moves from
player to player, fast.

Quote:
> Anyway - there's a start. Anyone else interested in Handball?
> How about rec.sport.handball? RFD ? CFV?

> Luke
> (Australian National Squad)
> (Local Referee)

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