Blues/Pens & homers

Blues/Pens & homers

Post by <CXS.. » Thu, 11 Nov 1993 10:26:52


The third period of the Blues/Penquins game tonight (3-3 final) was one of the
better periods of hockey I've seen played this year.  Rather than giving the
All-Star game to the non-fans (in the states), they should show them a third
period like this.  I only have one question for all those out there in Penquin
country (KDL or KBL, not sure of the station)...

Who told those two Penquin TV characters that they were announcers?  They were
the absolute worst broadcast team I've ever heard in any sport at any time on

Hull is chasing Murphy out of the Penquin zone, stick-checking him from behind.
Well, Murphy pulls a wiley-veteran kind of move and throws his head back then
puts his hands up to cover his face.  It looked like he got hit in the face.
Faucette sends Hull off with a minor for high-sticking.  Before the replay,
these two (announcers) were going off on what an obvious penalty it was.
Looking at the replay, Hull's stick didn't appear to hit him in the face, and
then the play-by-play man just kind of resigned the outrage he felt at Hull
getting "one of our guys" when he saw that it was Murphy taking a dive for a
power play.  Murphy made it look good, so all the power to him (and his team).
Now with about :30 seconds left in the game, a Pen got Brendan Shanahan (I
believe) up around the face (or so it appeared again).  This time the two
didn't have much to say, and the audience got to see only one quick replay.
Actually, now that I think about it, I think Tocchet's stick may have speared
him as he went by.  Like I said, they only showed it once (as opposed to the
five times for the Murphy incident, until they got what they didn't want to
see).  Then with only a couple seconds left on the clock, Hull was over yelling
something at his own bench, and the play-by-play guy says "Keep yapping,
Hullie."  Here's one of the classiest and talented players in the league
involved in a good game, and that's all he can come up with.

I guess what I'm trying to ask (rather direct manner, don't you think?) is how
can all those out there who have to watch this crew stand it?

The list of verbal, homering crimes goes on and on, as all those with an
objective view of the mentioned game will attest.  The only good thing that
either of them had to say was the color man, and that was about a few good
saves by Joseph.  The only trip Pitt will make to St. Louis this year, and not
one mention of the talented Brett Hull (in a respectful manner), or the way
Janney carries the blueline, only "God, where are the penalties, there are two
blown calls" for nice Blue defensive plays and "Joey Mullen with the nice
check" for the same from the Penguins.  Who are these guys, and who told
them they could announce a hockey game?

"It is we who are your fire dogs!"
             --Ren Hoek

Any Penquin fans, enlighten me, especially if you have to listen to them to
watch a game and your kid ripped the volume control off the set.

And someone tell him Murray Baron is an ex-Flyer, not an ex-Bruin.

"Sheesh!"
    --Calvin

I know, I'm babbling...

paco...

 
 
 

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Post by STEVEN J. KANG » Thu, 11 Nov 1993 18:01:38

: I guess what I'm trying to ask (rather direct manner, don't you think?) is how
: can all those out there who have to watch this crew stand it?

: The list of verbal, homering crimes goes on and on, as all those with an
: objective view of the mentioned game will attest.  The only good thing that
: either of them had to say was the color man, and that was about a few good
: saves by Joseph.  The only trip Pitt will make to St. Louis this year, and not
: one mention of the talented Brett Hull (in a respectful manner), or the way
: Janney carries the blueline, only "God, where are the penalties, there are two
: blown calls" for nice Blue defensive plays and "Joey Mullen with the nice
: check" for the same from the Penguins.  Who are these guys, and who told
: them they could announce a hockey game?

        I guess we just have to live with it.  I'm a Detroit fan and I
can get pretty sick of Mickey Redmond whining about a call all night.
I've learned to block it out.
It must be hard not to be a homer when you like your team.  Long live
Ernie Harwell.  
--
Steve Kangas


 
 
 

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Post by George Pandeli » Thu, 11 Nov 1993 20:02:15

|> The third period of the Blues/Penquins game tonight (3-3 final) was one of the
|> better periods of hockey I've seen played this year.  Rather than giving the
|> All-Star game to the non-fans (in the states), they should show them a third

The first two periods were a demonstration of focused defense on the part of
the 'guins.  Too bad they fell off the wagon in the 3rd.  But you're right, it
was a great game.

|> Who told those two Penquin TV characters that they were announcers?  They were
|> the absolute worst broadcast team I've ever heard in any sport at any time on

The two announcers were Doug McCloud (formerly Minnesota's play by play guy)
and our own little Paul Stiegerwald (gag).  Tap your skates together and
repeat after me:

There's only 1 Mike Lange
There's only 1 Mike Lange
There's only 1 Mike Lange
(There's no place like home...)

|> then the play-by-play man just kind of resigned the outrage he felt at Hull
|> getting "one of our guys" when he saw that it was Murphy taking a dive for a
|> power play.  Murphy made it look good, so all the power to him (and his team).
|> Now with about :30 seconds left in the game, a Pen got Brendan Shanahan (I
|> believe) up around the face (or so it appeared again).  This time the two
|> didn't have much to say, and the audience got to see only one quick replay.
|> Actually, now that I think about it, I think Tocchet's stick may have speared
|> him as he went by.  Like I said, they only showed it once (as opposed to the
|> five times for the Murphy incident, until they got what they didn't want to

Actually, McCloud remarked that ESPN was controlling the TV feed, i.e. replays.

|> see).  Then with only a couple seconds left on the clock, Hull was over yelling
|> something at his own bench, and the play-by-play guy says "Keep yapping,
|> Hullie."  Here's one of the classiest and talented players in the league
|> involved in a good game, and that's all he can come up with.
|>
|> I guess what I'm trying to ask (rather direct manner, don't you think?) is how
|> can all those out there who have to watch this crew stand it?
|>
|> The list of verbal, homering crimes goes on and on, as all those with an
|> objective view of the mentioned game will attest.  The only good thing that
|> either of them had to say was the color man, and that was about a few good
|> saves by Joseph.  The only trip Pitt will make to St. Louis this year, and not
|> one mention of the talented Brett Hull (in a respectful manner), or the way
|> Janney carries the blueline, only "God, where are the penalties, there are two
|> blown calls" for nice Blue defensive plays and "Joey Mullen with the nice
|> check" for the same from the Penguins.  Who are these guys, and who told
|> them they could announce a hockey game?

Yeah, I know.  Lange is quick to point out good plays no matter who makes
them.

|>
|> "It is we who are your fire dogs!"
|>              --Ren Hoek
|>
|> Any Penquin fans, enlighten me, especially if you have to listen to them to
|> watch a game and your kid ripped the volume control off the set.

The broadcasting and announcer situation here is, um, complex.  Yeah, that's
the word, complex.

|>
|> And someone tell him Murray Baron is an ex-Flyer, not an ex-Bruin.
|>
|> "Sheesh!"
|>     --Calvin
|>
|> I know, I'm babbling...

Why should you be the only one?  ;^)
|>
|> paco...

Cheers,

George
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Post by David William Burk » Fri, 12 Nov 1993 02:59:05

I'm sure by the time this gets on others will have made the same
observation, but let my post my opinon:

Quote:
>Who told those two Penquin TV characters that they were announcers?

They >were the absolute worst broadcast team I've ever heard in any
sport at any >time on any planet, period.  They down-right suck.  For

zone, stick-checking him >from behind.  Well, Murphy pulls a
wiley-veteran kind of move and throws his >head back then puts his hands
up to cover his face.  It looked like he got >hit in the face.  Faucette
sends Hull off with a minor for high-sticking.  >Before the replay,
these two (announcers) were going off on what an obvious >penalty it
was.  Looking at the replay, Hull's stick didn't appear to hit >him in
the face, and then the play-by-play man just kind of resigned the
Quote:
>outrage he felt at Hull getting "one of our guys" when he saw that it

was >Murphy taking a dive for a power play.  Murphy made it look good,
so all the >power to him (and his team).

I was annoyed at this too.  at first, murphy had me fooled, but after
one replay, I saw what really happend.  I don't know what those two were
watching, but it couldn't have been the same thing.  About the replays
though, I must say that KBL does an excellent job.  Unfortunately, if
you listened closely, they were using the ESPN shots and had no control
over it.  Someone at ESPN needs to be fired.  On that replay, they never
showed any of the important parts, like when the stick was "put" into
murphy's face, or afterwards when it looked like murphy was jamming his
stick up someone's nose.  I couldn't tell if he was or not, they
wouldn't show it.  Another case was the goal late in the game that was
disallowed.  Even if you had never seen a game before in your life you
would show the replay of the shot, not show the replay officials
scratching their heads over the play.  and about the announcers.  If you
have to watch a game again, turn down the volume and listen to Mike
Lange on the radio, he is a treat to the ears, is knowledgable about the
game, and makes the game even more exciting.  Over the summer some major
changes were made in the broadcasting of Pens games, some of which were
discussed here already (changing from KDKA) but the biggest sin was to
stop the simulcast of Lange and Staggie, a nice combo even though
Staigerwald does tend to ramble through important plays.  This was the
first time I have had to sit through the new pair of announcers and I
have to agree with you that these two were awful, and that is saying
something  coming from a person who doesn't mind the Pirate announcers.
One last note, I must admit that sometimes it is nice to have a homer in
the booth just becasue there are times (esp. with the Pens) when you
want to hear something good about the team.
                                                Dave

 
 
 

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Post by swart.. » Fri, 12 Nov 1993 06:25:19

Quote:
>I was annoyed at this too.  at first, murphy had me fooled, but after
>one replay, I saw what really happend.  I don't know what those two were
>watching, but it couldn't have been the same thing.  About the replays
>though, I must say that KBL does an excellent job.  Unfortunately, if
>you listened closely, they were using the ESPN shots and had no control
>over it.  Someone at ESPN needs to be fired.  On that replay, they never
>showed any of the important parts, like when the stick was "put" into
>murphy's face, or afterwards when it looked like murphy was jamming his
>stick up someone's nose.  I couldn't tell if he was or not, they

Didn't the NHL try using 2 refs during the preseason, and it worked great???
I am not sure whether it was 2 refs and 2 linesman, or 2 refs and 1 linesman,
but the calls were supposedly much better.  There was always one ref ahead
of the play and one behind.  If they did do this, and it worked so well,
WHY THE HELL DIDN'T THEY IMPLEMENT IT!!!

                Jeff Swartz

GO BLUES!!!

 
 
 

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Post by Joseph P. Szeker » Sat, 13 Nov 1993 03:03:14


Quote:
>All-Star game to the non-fans (in the states), they should show them a third
>period like this.  I only have one question for all those out there in Penquin
>country (KDL or KBL, not sure of the station)...

>Who told those two Penquin TV characters that they were announcers?  They were
>the absolute worst broadcast team I've ever heard in any sport at any time on

>Hull is chasing Murphy out of the Penquin zone, stick-checking him from behind.
>Well, Murphy pulls a wiley-veteran kind of move and throws his head back then
>puts his hands up to cover his face.  It looked like he got hit in the face.
>Faucette sends Hull off with a minor for high-sticking.  Before the replay,
>these two (announcers) were going off on what an obvious penalty it was.
>Looking at the replay, Hull's stick didn't appear to hit him in the face, and
>then the play-by-play man just kind of resigned the outrage he felt at Hull
>getting "one of our guys" when he saw that it was Murphy taking a dive for a
>power play.  Murphy made it look good, so all the power to him (and his team).
>Now with about :30 seconds left in the game, a Pen got Brendan Shanahan (I
>believe) up around the face (or so it appeared again).  This time the two
>didn't have much to say, and the audience got to see only one quick replay.
>Actually, now that I think about it, I think Tocchet's stick may have speared
>him as he went by.  Like I said, they only showed it once (as opposed to the
>five times for the Murphy incident, until they got what they didn't want to
>see).  Then with only a couple seconds left on the clock, Hull was over yelling
>something at his own bench, and the play-by-play guy says "Keep yapping,
>Hullie."  Here's one of the classiest and talented players in the league
>involved in a good game, and that's all he can come up with.

>I guess what I'm trying to ask (rather direct manner, don't you think?) is how
>can all those out there who have to watch this crew stand it?

Lucky for the Pens fans Mike Lange will do most of the TV games...I think.
Mike Lange was available on the Radio...so I tuned out ESPN (Gary Thorne GAG)
and tuned in 1250 AM and to my delight....I got to listen to the BEST! Mike
Lange!!!   KBL TV folks were not so lucky....they did not get Mike on the TV
side!

Quote:

>The list of verbal, homering crimes goes on and on, as all those with an
>objective view of the mentioned game will attest.  The only good thing that
>either of them had to say was the color man, and that was about a few good
>saves by Joseph.  The only trip Pitt will make to St. Louis this year, and not
>one mention of the talented Brett Hull (in a respectful manner), or the way
>Janney carries the blueline, only "God, where are the penalties, there are two
>blown calls" for nice Blue defensive plays and "Joey Mullen with the nice
>check" for the same from the Penguins.  Who are these guys, and who told
>them they could announce a hockey game?

>"It is we who are your fire dogs!"
>             --Ren Hoek

Mike Lange gives credit where credit is due....every time!  Too bad you
did not get to hear him. Maybe next time!!

Quote:
>Any Penquin fans, enlighten me, especially if you have to listen to them to
>watch a game and your kid ripped the volume control off the set.

>And someone tell him Murray Baron is an ex-Flyer, not an ex-Bruin.

>"Sheesh!"
>    --Calvin

>I know, I'm babbling...

>paco...

See YA!!!!!
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Post by <J.. » Sat, 13 Nov 1993 02:44:03

If this new guy for Pittsburgh is *worse* than Lange then he must be the
worst announcer on the face of the earth!  Lange is AWFUL, he doesn't know
what is going on on the ice.  (e.g. Chelios is crosschecking a Murphy
across the back of the head <four times!> the play stops and Lange and
Stigerwald are going "why has play been stopped what is going on" the
replay is running and they STILL haven't figured it out.  Meanwhile
I flip to Sportschannel and they had pegged it right away.)  Also
the STUPID, IDIOTIC, FOOL things he says have no place in hockey or
any other sport!

Rob Funk  -  Caps fan and DAMN proud of it!

 
 
 

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Post by Joseph P. Szeker » Sun, 14 Nov 1993 02:47:19


Quote:
>If this new guy for Pittsburgh is *worse* than Lange then he must be the
>worst announcer on the face of the earth!  Lange is AWFUL, he doesn't know
>what is going on on the ice.  (e.g. Chelios is crosschecking a Murphy
>across the back of the head <four times!> the play stops and Lange and
>Stigerwald are going "why has play been stopped what is going on" the
>replay is running and they STILL haven't figured it out.  Meanwhile
>I flip to Sportschannel and they had pegged it right away.)  Also
>the STUPID, IDIOTIC, FOOL things he says have no place in hockey or
>any other sport!

"Lange is AWFUL" NOT.....His work in Pittsburgh is LEGENDARY!  He may have
not known what was going on due to the fact Stigerwald is THERE! Stigy
is a distraction to Lange....whan Lange is by himself....he does not
miss a call!  Give him another chance....He simply is The BEST!
------so much so that he has a Stanley Cup RING!...Yes ...an anouncer!

No rings for the CAPS!

Quote:

>Rob Funk  -  Caps fan and DAMN proud of it!

....and for those Caps anouncers...HA!  What a joke!!!  Jeff Rimer is an
idiot!!!!!!   Craig L. is OK...but his VOICE!!!!  The other new guy
is better than Rimer...but still not good!   Overall....NO COMPARISON
TO the Pittsburgh crew.

You are LUCKY to get other scores of other games at regular intervals.
The Boys in Pittsburgh give scores regularly!  
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Post by Tom Hu » Sat, 13 Nov 1993 23:14:24


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: discussed here already (changing from KDKA) but the biggest sin was to
: stop the simulcast of Lange and Staggie, a nice combo even though
: Staigerwald does tend to ramble through important plays.  This was the
: first time I have had to sit through the new pair of announcers and I
                                           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
: have to agree with you that these two were awful, and that is saying
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I thought a previous poster said Steigerwald was the color man
during that game. Does anyone know who really did the game?

: something  coming from a person who doesn't mind the Pirate announcers.
: One last note, I must admit that sometimes it is nice to have a homer in
: the booth just becasue there are times (esp. with the Pens) when you
: want to hear something good about the team.