SPORTS ILLUSTRATED'S 20TH CENTURY SPORTS AWARDSCHAT

SPORTS ILLUSTRATED'S 20TH CENTURY SPORTS AWARDSCHAT

Post by Paul Hanlin, Jr » Thu, 04 Nov 1999 04:00:00


These are the nominees, announced today for the Sports Illustrated
December 2 "20th Century Sports Awards".  A Sportsman of the Century
and the 10 Greatest Sports Moments of the Century will also be
announced.

In RSFC-speak, discuss, please...

Baseball
Henry Aaron
Lou Gehrig
Walter Johnson
Willie Mays
Babe Ruth
Ted Williams

Football
Jim Brown
*** Butkus
Otto Graham
Red Grange
Don Hutson
Joe Montana

Basketball  
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
Larry Bird
Wilt Chamberlain
Magic Johnson
Michael Jordan
Oscar Robertson

Hockey
Wayne Gretzky
Gordie Howe
Mario Lemieux
Bobby Orr
Maurice Richard
Terry Sawchuk

U.S. Olympians  
Bonnie Blair (the ONLY U.S. winter olympian to make the list - yes!)
Jackie Joyner-Kersee  
Carl Lewis  
Al Oerter  
Jesse Owens  
Mark Spitz  

Individual Sports (Men)
Muhammad Ali
Rod Laver
Joe Louis
Jack Nicklaus
Sugar Ray Robinson
Pete Sampras

Individual Sports (Women)  
Babe Didrikson-Zaharias  
Chris Evert  
Steffi Graf  
Nancy Lopez  
Martina Navratilova  
Mickey Wright

"Athletes Who Changed the Game"
Peggy Fleming
Billie Jean King
Arnold Palmer
Pel
Richard Petty
Jackie Robinson
Bill Russell.

 
 
 

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Post by Darko Peri » Thu, 04 Nov 1999 04:00:00

Quote:

>These are the nominees, announced today for the Sports Illustrated
>December 2 "20th Century Sports Awards".  A Sportsman of the Century
>and the 10 Greatest Sports Moments of the Century will also be
>announced.

>In RSFC-speak, discuss, please...

>Baseball
>Henry Aaron
>Lou Gehrig
>Walter Johnson
>Willie Mays
>Babe Ruth
>Ted Williams

    Darko:  No DiMaggio?

Quote:

>Football
>Jim Brown
>Dick Butkus
>Otto Graham
>Red Grange
>Don Hutson
>Joe Montana

>Basketball
>Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
>Larry Bird
>Wilt Chamberlain
>Magic Johnson
>Michael Jordan
>Oscar Robertson

    Darko:  Julius "Dr.J" Irving is a vital necessity.  He paved the way for
"Magic" Johnson and Larry Bird.

Quote:

>Hockey
>Wayne Gretzky
>Gordie Howe
>Mario Lemieux
>Bobby Orr
>Maurice Richard
>Terry Sawchuk

    Darko:  I'd take Jaques Plante over Sawchuk anyday.  Or how's about
George Hainsworth who consistently played well for the Habs in the 20's and
30's.  In one 44 game season, he recorded 27 shutouts and had allowed only
43 goals in 44 games giving him a 0.98 average.

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Quote:

>U.S. Olympians
>Bonnie Blair (the ONLY U.S. winter olympian to make the list - yes!)
>Jackie Joyner-Kersee
>Carl Lewis
>Al Oerter
>Jesse Owens
>Mark Spitz

>Individual Sports (Men)
>Muhammad Ali
>Rod Laver
>Joe Louis
>Jack Nicklaus
>Sugar Ray Robinson
>Pete Sampras

    Darko:  This is easy, how's about Sergei Bubka the pole vaulter for one.
God, this list screams Homer Simpson saying:  "USA, USA, USA".  And what
about that cricket player whose name escapes me.  (I think he's Australian).

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Quote:

>Individual Sports (Women)
>Babe Didrikson-Zaharias
>Chris Evert
>Steffi Graf
>Nancy Lopez
>Martina Navratilova
>Mickey Wright

>"Athletes Who Changed the Game"
>Peggy Fleming
>Billie Jean King
>Arnold Palmer
>Pel
>Richard Petty
>Jackie Robinson
>Bill Russell.


 
 
 

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Post by Yossaria » Fri, 05 Nov 1999 04:00:00

As usual very American focused

Quote:
> Individual Sports (Men)
> Muhammad Ali
> Rod Laver
> Joe Louis
> Jack Nicklaus
> Sugar Ray Robinson
> Pete Sampras

> Individual Sports (Women)
> Babe Didrikson-Zaharias
> Chris Evert
> Steffi Graf
> Nancy Lopez
> Martina Navratilova
> Mickey Wright

No Margaret Court or Heather Mackay? Dawn Fraser?

Quote:
> "Athletes Who Changed the Game"
> Peggy Fleming
> Billie Jean King
> Arnold Palmer
> Pel
> Richard Petty
> Jackie Robinson
> Bill Russell.

Don Bradman

 
 
 

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Post by Ro » Fri, 05 Nov 1999 04:00:00


Quote:

>These are the nominees, announced today for the Sports Illustrated
>December 2 "20th Century Sports Awards".  A Sportsman of the Century
>and the 10 Greatest Sports Moments of the Century will also be
>announced.

<snipped a pile of Americans>

This is a joke right? I would hope the organisers are not expecting it to have
any credibility.

America - the only country in the world which holds a world championship and
doesn't bother to invite any other nations.

 
 
 

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Post by RandAltho » Fri, 05 Nov 1999 04:00:00

Im glad I live in a country that doesnt support such a narrow band of
sporting pursuits.



Quote:
> These are the nominees, announced today for the Sports Illustrated
> December 2 "20th Century Sports Awards".  A Sportsman of the Century
> and the 10 Greatest Sports Moments of the Century will also be
> announced.

> In RSFC-speak, discuss, please...

> Baseball
> Henry Aaron
> Lou Gehrig
> Walter Johnson
> Willie Mays
> Babe Ruth
> Ted Williams

> Football
> Jim Brown
>*** Butkus
> Otto Graham
> Red Grange
> Don Hutson
> Joe Montana

> Basketball
> Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
> Larry Bird
> Wilt Chamberlain
> Magic Johnson
> Michael Jordan
> Oscar Robertson

> Hockey
> Wayne Gretzky
> Gordie Howe
> Mario Lemieux
> Bobby Orr
> Maurice Richard
> Terry Sawchuk

> U.S. Olympians
> Bonnie Blair (the ONLY U.S. winter olympian to make the list - yes!)
> Jackie Joyner-Kersee
> Carl Lewis
> Al Oerter
> Jesse Owens
> Mark Spitz

> Individual Sports (Men)
> Muhammad Ali
> Rod Laver
> Joe Louis
> Jack Nicklaus
> Sugar Ray Robinson
> Pete Sampras

> Individual Sports (Women)
> Babe Didrikson-Zaharias
> Chris Evert
> Steffi Graf
> Nancy Lopez
> Martina Navratilova
> Mickey Wright

> "Athletes Who Changed the Game"
> Peggy Fleming
> Billie Jean King
> Arnold Palmer
> Pel
> Richard Petty
> Jackie Robinson
> Bill Russell.

 
 
 

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Post by Aaron Borgm » Fri, 05 Nov 1999 04:00:00


: These are the nominees, announced today for the Sports Illustrated
: December 2 "20th Century Sports Awards".  A Sportsman of the Century
: and the 10 Greatest Sports Moments of the Century will also be
: announced.
:
: Individual Sports (Women)  
: Babe Didrikson-Zaharias  

Why even bother to list anyone else?

: Chris Evert  
: Steffi Graf  
: Nancy Lopez  
: Martina Navratilova  
: Mickey Wright

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Disclaimer: All above opinions are mine... not Intel's

 
 
 

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Post by Yeu Shan Goa » Fri, 05 Nov 1999 04:00:00

Most American don't think of sports as something they play, but something
they watch others play on TV.  When asked to name three major sports, most
American will name football, baseball, and basketball (three most broadcasted
sports on US television) instead of soccer, cycling, and table tennis (three
most participated sports in the world).  With this in mind, the list made by
"Sports" Illustrated would suddenly make much more sense :-)

Quote:

> Im glad I live in a country that doesnt support such a narrow band of
> sporting pursuits.

 
 
 

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Post by Don Le » Fri, 05 Nov 1999 04:00:00

Sports Illustrated is undoubtedly an American publication -- their list
implicitly is meant only to cover Amercian sports.  Our friends oversees
should not be offended .... no one at SI or elsewhere considers this a world
list -- even if Pele and some European women tennis players are thrown in.

Finally -- the omission of Ben Hogan is a claring oversight.  The debate on
who was greater, Hogan or Nicklaus is unsettled in my opinion (though I
favor Hogan on this matter).   Nicklaus never had a NY ticker tape parade.
Nicklaus never won three majors in a year.   Yet Nicklaus was huge and a
great case can be made for his supremacy.  However, Hogan and Bobby Jones
definitely belong.   As far as changing their sport -- Arnold Palmer
arguably had a bigger impact on pro golf than did Nicklaus.  Nicklaus never
would have turned pro if Palmer had not single handedly made pro golf the
recognized home of the top golfers in the world.

I think I just realized what this list really is.   The greatest athletes
Sports Illustrated covered.

 Yeah ....

 - Don



Quote:
> These are the nominees, announced today for the Sports Illustrated
> December 2 "20th Century Sports Awards".  A Sportsman of the Century
> and the 10 Greatest Sports Moments of the Century will also be
> announced.

> In RSFC-speak, discuss, please...

> Baseball
> Henry Aaron
> Lou Gehrig
> Walter Johnson
> Willie Mays
> Babe Ruth
> Ted Williams

> Football
> Jim Brown
>*** Butkus
> Otto Graham
> Red Grange
> Don Hutson
> Joe Montana

> Basketball
> Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
> Larry Bird
> Wilt Chamberlain
> Magic Johnson
> Michael Jordan
> Oscar Robertson

> Hockey
> Wayne Gretzky
> Gordie Howe
> Mario Lemieux
> Bobby Orr
> Maurice Richard
> Terry Sawchuk

> U.S. Olympians
> Bonnie Blair (the ONLY U.S. winter olympian to make the list - yes!)
> Jackie Joyner-Kersee
> Carl Lewis
> Al Oerter
> Jesse Owens
> Mark Spitz

> Individual Sports (Men)
> Muhammad Ali
> Rod Laver
> Joe Louis
> Jack Nicklaus
> Sugar Ray Robinson
> Pete Sampras

> Individual Sports (Women)
> Babe Didrikson-Zaharias
> Chris Evert
> Steffi Graf
> Nancy Lopez
> Martina Navratilova
> Mickey Wright

> "Athletes Who Changed the Game"
> Peggy Fleming
> Billie Jean King
> Arnold Palmer
> Pel
> Richard Petty
> Jackie Robinson
> Bill Russell.

 
 
 

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Post by Anne Morto » Sat, 06 Nov 1999 04:00:00

Not just Pele and some European women - there're six Canadians, eh?  All
players of one sport and no marks for guessing which one.  Rather an odd
starting lineup since there is only one defenseman (Orr) and he was famous
for his offensive play but certainly one with a hell of a lot of
firepower -and Winnipeg's own Terry Sawchuk in goal.

I agree it is really a list of great athletes covered by SI.  What's wrong
with that? Isn't everybody's local and national media doing the same thing?
I also agree, however, that the American tendency to confuse the national
with the global is extremely annoying.

Quote:

> Sports Illustrated is undoubtedly an American publication -- their list
> implicitly is meant only to cover Amercian sports.  Our friends oversees
> should not be offended .... no one at SI or elsewhere considers this a
world
> list -- even if Pele and some European women tennis players are thrown in.

> I think I just realized what this list really is.   The greatest athletes
> Sports Illustrated covered.

>  Yeah ....

>  - Don



> > These are the nominees, announced today for the Sports Illustrated
> > December 2 "20th Century Sports Awards".  A Sportsman of the Century
> > and the 10 Greatest Sports Moments of the Century will also be
> > announced.

> > In RSFC-speak, discuss, please...

> > Baseball
> > Henry Aaron
> > Lou Gehrig
> > Walter Johnson
> > Willie Mays
> > Babe Ruth
> > Ted Williams

> > Football
> > Jim Brown
> >*** Butkus
> > Otto Graham
> > Red Grange
> > Don Hutson
> > Joe Montana

> > Basketball
> > Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
> > Larry Bird
> > Wilt Chamberlain
> > Magic Johnson
> > Michael Jordan
> > Oscar Robertson

> > Hockey
> > Wayne Gretzky
> > Gordie Howe
> > Mario Lemieux
> > Bobby Orr
> > Maurice Richard
> > Terry Sawchuk

> > U.S. Olympians
> > Bonnie Blair (the ONLY U.S. winter olympian to make the list - yes!)
> > Jackie Joyner-Kersee
> > Carl Lewis
> > Al Oerter
> > Jesse Owens
> > Mark Spitz

> > Individual Sports (Men)
> > Muhammad Ali
> > Rod Laver
> > Joe Louis
> > Jack Nicklaus
> > Sugar Ray Robinson
> > Pete Sampras

> > Individual Sports (Women)
> > Babe Didrikson-Zaharias
> > Chris Evert
> > Steffi Graf
> > Nancy Lopez
> > Martina Navratilova
> > Mickey Wright

> > "Athletes Who Changed the Game"
> > Peggy Fleming
> > Billie Jean King
> > Arnold Palmer
> > Pel
> > Richard Petty
> > Jackie Robinson
> > Bill Russell.

 
 
 

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Post by Ro » Sat, 06 Nov 1999 04:00:00


Quote:

>Sports Illustrated is undoubtedly an American publication -- their list
>implicitly is meant only to cover Amercian sports.  Our friends oversees
>should not be offended

I don't think anyone gets offended. People laugh at Americans when it comes to
their isolationism. Let's face it, it is pretty funny to see an American team
win an American competition and then declare themselves as 'world champions'.

Quote:
>.... no one at SI or elsewhere considers this a world
>list -- even if Pele and some European women tennis players are thrown in.

The technical term is 'token outsiders'.
 
 
 

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Post by de5.. » Sat, 06 Nov 1999 04:00:00



Quote:
> America - the only country in the world which holds a world
championship and
> doesn't bother to invite any other nations.

Any of you Euro ***s wanna come over here and challenge the NBA World
Champs??   Didn't think so.

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Post by Paul M. Park » Sat, 06 Nov 1999 04:00:00


Quote:

> >Sports Illustrated is undoubtedly an American publication -- their list
> >implicitly is meant only to cover Amercian sports.  Our friends oversees
> >should not be offended

> I don't think anyone gets offended. People laugh at Americans when it
comes to
> their isolationism. Let's face it, it is pretty funny to see an American
team
> win an American competition and then declare themselves as 'world

champions'.

MWC = Mythical World Champions?

PMP

 
 
 

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Post by Jefferson Glapsk » Sat, 06 Nov 1999 04:00:00



Quote:




> > >Sports Illustrated is undoubtedly an American publication -- their
list
> > >implicitly is meant only to cover Amercian sports.  Our friends
oversees
> > >should not be offended

> > I don't think anyone gets offended. People laugh at Americans when
it
> comes to
> > their isolationism. Let's face it, it is pretty funny to see an
American
> team
> > win an American competition and then declare themselves as 'world
> champions'.

> MWC = Mythical World Champions?

What should the NBA do?

--
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http://home.ican.net/~jng

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Post by <skyk.. » Sat, 06 Nov 1999 04:00:00

Other nations are free to join American professional leagues if they can
field temas good enough to compete.  My question is why dont other
countries challenge Americans?  There is money to be made from such
challenges for both sides.  America would readily accept.  But I know the
answer to the question.  It is because other countries cant compete in the
big three sports.

skyking


: This is a joke right? I would hope the organisers are not expecting it to have
: any credibility.

: America - the only country in the world which holds a world championship and
: doesn't bother to invite any other nations.

 
 
 

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Post by Jim C. Brand » Sat, 06 Nov 1999 04:00:00

Quote:


> > Other nations are free to join American professional leagues if they can
> > field temas good enough to compete.  My question is why dont other
> > countries challenge Americans?  There is money to be made from such
> > challenges for both sides.  America would readily accept.  But I know the
> > answer to the question.  It is because other countries cant compete in the
> > big three sports.

> Big three sports ? Sure in the US.

> Why can't America compete in soccer, cycling and table tennis ?

Dewd -
Does the name Lance Armstrong ring a bell?  He kinda competed a little bit in
the tour de france ...