Belfour and no respect

Belfour and no respect

Post by n.. » Fri, 08 Apr 1994 16:33:15


Belfour seems to get no respect because "they" (his detractors) say his
style is too unconventional.  He plays _very_ far out of the net,
and seems to be a "center trapped in a goalie's body" whenever
there's an open net at the other end of the rink, Hawks' fans are
always cheering for Eddie to try and hit it in.  Unfortunately,
last night against St. Louis while Chelios was involved in a
fight, Eddie seemed to think he needed help and left the crease to
help pummel (sp?) the Blues' player.  A double minor penalty (and
a few goals by the Blues) later, I hope Eddie learned his lesson.
But maybe he was just letting off steam?

Quote:
>I've heard there is a mailing list?

I had heard that there _used_ to be a mailing list, but according to
the bi-monthly HOCKEY-FAQ, the Hawks don't have one.  If any of the
Hawks' fans are also Inet experienced, how do you form one?  I'd join.
Can't give you any advice on how to receive
alt.sports.nhl.chi-blackhawks, it's one of the newsgroups on the BBS I
use.

When you find out how to get a.s.n.c-b, I'll see you over there.

--Nina--

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Belfour and no respect

Post by w94_bhatn.. » Fri, 08 Apr 1994 18:02:24

Here in St Louis, Belfour gets no respect because he's a crybaby, throws
tantrums, and just generally has the emotional control of a 4-year old.  He
doesnt play well here, probably because the fans chanting his name make him
so mad.  Having only seen him play against the Blues, I'd say he's extremely
overrated (but rumour has it he does better against lesser opponents).

Looking forward to Friday's ***bath,
Raj

 
 
 

Belfour and no respect

Post by Andrew W. Korb » Sat, 09 Apr 1994 06:19:43

Quote:

>Belfour seems to get no respect because "they" (his detractors) say his
>style is too unconventional.

That has nothing to do with why Belfive gets no respect...
--
 Dr.D [The Devils Advocate]


 
 
 

Belfour and no respect

Post by reiter » Tue, 12 Apr 1994 21:14:42

Quote:

> Raj, Raj, Raj......

Get A Life!!  I believe the score friday was 6-1 Hawks.  I do believe that
Belfour has TWO Vezinas, two consecutive 40+ win seasons, a trip to the Stanley
Cup, and a Calder (that's rookie of the year).  St. Louis won't make it past
the first round.  What's Joseph done?  I'm dying to hear.
 
 
 

Belfour and no respect

Post by Robert Matthew Schmi » Wed, 13 Apr 1994 04:18:32

Quote:


>> Raj, Raj, Raj......
>Get A Life!!  I believe the score friday was 6-1 Hawks.  I do believe that

Belfour played very well in that game. He stoned Shanahan all night long(
Shanahan had a total of 9 shots in the game). Meanwhile, Hrivnak was
pathetic and has been most of the season(exception was the road game at Boston,
when he stopped 40+ shots w/ the Blues winning 2-1). I'm surprised the
'Hawks only scored 6 times.

Quote:
>Belfour has TWO Vezinas, two consecutive 40+ win seasons, a trip to the Stanley
>Cup, and a Calder (that's rookie of the year).  St. Louis won't make it past
>the first round.  What's Joseph done?  I'm dying to hear.

And Chicago will? Perhaps, I will post his stats later...However, Joseph has
no Vezinas(yet), no Calder, no trip to Stanley Cup(yet), but set the Blues'
record for wins by a goalie this season w/ 34.

Rob Schmich

 
 
 

Belfour and no respect

Post by Jon Michael Coat » Wed, 13 Apr 1994 05:34:39


: >
: > Raj, Raj, Raj......
: Get A Life!!  I believe the score friday was 6-1 Hawks.  I do believe that
: Belfour has TWO Vezinas, two consecutive 40+ win seasons, a trip to the Stanley
: Cup, and a Calder (that's rookie of the year).  St. Louis won't make it past
: the first round.  What's Joseph done?  I'm dying to hear.

hmm..Joseph takes less penalties, was an all-star this year,
was 6-6 on the breakaway relay in those skills competitions
(fine, he didn't play too well in the game itself, something like 2 goals)
but most importantly, he had FOUR wins in a row against the hawks
last year in the playoffs, and he {roll the highlight film}
beat the ***out of tim cheveldae in an actual goalie-fight
about a year or two ago. Give him the belt, Probert.

also, in tons of games vs the hawks, he has yet to break his stick
over his goal and then resurface the ice with tears as he screams and kicks
cause he singlehandedly lost a few games for his team again.

oh yeah, this ought to be on rec.hawks.flame but hey, i can't resist
Belfour's Five-hole is bigger than the goalmouth he's tending.

jmcoats, tired of this shit, move on, or call for a poll of people not
from st louis or chicago to say who is overrated and who is just better
Cujo or Eddie the Beagle
i predict a landslide.

 
 
 

Belfour and no respect

Post by RC » Wed, 13 Apr 1994 07:45:05


Quote:
Michael Coats ) writes:

Oh Please,  Belfour is so much better then Joseph,  Belfour has what like 23-24
SO in what 5 season and two 7 shutout seasons and 2 - 40 win seasons.  How many
shutouts does Joseph have?- 2-3 SO.  How many 40 wins, how many 30 wins?- 1 -30
win season (93-94).  Belfour also have 3 season with GAA under 3.00,  How many
does Joseph have.  Hawks might have lost to the blues but hockey is a team
sport. Joseph went to the "All star"  this year, But belfour went twice in a
row.  And  don't give me ***about save %, I even can stop shots from the red
line.  
 
 
 

Belfour and no respect

Post by Wes Hollid » Thu, 14 Apr 1994 02:34:01

Quote:


>Subject: Re: Belfour and no respect
>Date: 11 Apr 1994 18:45:05 -0400

>Michael Coats ) writes:
>Oh Please,  Belfour is so much better then Joseph,  Belfour has what like 23-24
>SO in what 5 season and two 7 shutout seasons and 2 - 40 win seasons.  How many
>shutouts does Joseph have?- 2-3 SO.  How many 40 wins, how many 30 wins?- 1 -30
>win season (93-94).  Belfour also have 3 season with GAA under 3.00,  How many
>does Joseph have.  Hawks might have lost to the blues but hockey is a team
>sport. Joseph went to the "All star"  this year, But belfour went twice in a
>row.  And  don't give me ***about save %, I even can stop shots from the red
>line.

Belfour has the benefit of playing on a team that has a hell of alot better
defence than ST. Louis. Stats are often more of a reflection of team rather
than individual performances (right Ranford?)

Both these guys play the butterfly style - one that I really don't like. It
relies on your defence to hurry the shooter, and the goalie takes up as much
net as possible. But if either team has an off night, these guys can get torn
apart upstairs.

I'm not saying these guys can't play - they are two of the best, but I would
rather have a stand-up type (Roy) or one that plays in complete and total kaos
(Hasek) :)

Wes

 
 
 

Belfour and no respect

Post by RC » Fri, 15 Apr 1994 04:14:01


Quote:

>Both these guys play the butterfly style - one that I really don't like.

First of all they both (belfour and Joseph) don't play butterfly.
Joseph plays stand- up style. Right everyone.

Quote:
>I'm not saying these guys can't play - they are two of the best, but I would
>rather have a stand-up type (Roy) or one that plays in complete and total kaos
>(Hasek) :)

Second, Roy is a Butterfly goalie not a standup. That show us what you know
 
 
 

Belfour and no respect

Post by john michael bradl » Sun, 17 Apr 1994 08:21:46


Quote:
Matthew Schmich) writes:



> >> Raj, Raj, Raj......
> >Get A Life!!  I believe the score friday was 6-1 Hawks.  I do believe  
that

> Belfour played very well in that game. He stoned Shanahan all night  
long(
> Shanahan had a total of 9 shots in the game). Meanwhile, Hrivnak was
> pathetic and has been most of the season(exception was the road game at  
Boston,
> when he stopped 40+ shots w/ the Blues winning 2-1). I'm surprised the
> 'Hawks only scored 6 times.

> >Belfour has TWO Vezinas, two consecutive 40+ win seasons, a trip to the  
Stanley
> >Cup, and a Calder (that's rookie of the year).  St. Louis won't make it  
past
> >the first round.  What's Joseph done?  I'm dying to hear.

> And Chicago will? Perhaps, I will post his stats later...However, Joseph  
has
> no Vezinas(yet), no Calder, no trip to Stanley Cup(yet), but set the  
Blues'
> record for wins by a goalie this season w/ 34.

> Rob Schmich

Keep in mind...in the last three years the goalie with the best aggregate  
save percentage is Curtis Joseph. In other words when an NHLer fires a  
shot at goal it is statistically less likely to find net behind Cujo than  
any one else. Hell, who wouldn't have a GAA under three and two Vezina's  
when they only see 25 shots a game.
 
 
 

Belfour and no respect

Post by Jon Michael Coat » Wed, 20 Apr 1994 08:55:05


: Michael Coats ) writes:

: Oh Please,  Belfour is so much better then Joseph,  Belfour has what like 23-24
: SO in what 5 season and two 7 shutout seasons and 2 - 40 win seasons.  How many
: shutouts does Joseph have?- 2-3 SO.  How many 40 wins, how many 30 wins?- 1 -30
: win season (93-94).  Belfour also have 3 season with GAA under 3.00,  How many
: does Joseph have.  Hawks might have lost to the blues but hockey is a team
: sport. Joseph went to the "All star"  this year, But belfour went twice in a
: row.  And  don't give me ***about save %, I even can stop shots from the red
: line.  

My point exactly. Sadly, you are better than Belfour it seems.
If you remember correctly in 1991 or so, Brett Hull beat Belfour
from about the RED line with a slap shot. I admit, Hrivnak sucks,
but hey, Eddie ought to suit up for the damn White Sox, he's so bad. :)

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