TWO STUPID HOCKEY QUESTIONS, PLEASE ADVISE

TWO STUPID HOCKEY QUESTIONS, PLEASE ADVISE

Post by Derek Li » Tue, 25 Apr 1995 04:00:00


I'm a relatively  new hockey fan.  I went to the Caps/Whalers game last
friday.  Bondra scored a "hat trick."  What is that?  Is it three points
by one man (which is how many he scored)?

While I'm at it, here's another question.  Could someone explain icing
the puck to me.

Please e-mail replies.  Thanks.

 
 
 

TWO STUPID HOCKEY QUESTIONS, PLEASE ADVISE

Post by dvo90.. » Tue, 25 Apr 1995 04:00:00

Quote:

>I'm a relatively  new hockey fan.  I went to the Caps/Whalers game last
>friday.  Bondra scored a "hat trick."  What is that?  Is it three points
>by one man (which is how many he scored)?

>While I'm at it, here's another question.  Could someone explain icing
>the puck to me.

>Please e-mail replies.  Thanks.

A hat trick is when a player scores 3 GOALS in one game.  Icing is when a
player shoots or passes the puck from his defending HALF of the ice to his
attacking Half of the ice past the goal line before someone on his own team
can play it.  However a team that is shorthanded can "ice" the puck legally.
If the puck crosses through the goalies crease it is not icing UNLESS it is
an empty net.  Also if the goalie plays the puck it is not icing.
Damon


 
 
 

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Post by Aaron Ran » Tue, 25 Apr 1995 04:00:00


Quote:


>>I'm a relatively  new hockey fan.  I went to the Caps/Whalers game last
>>friday.  Bondra scored a "hat trick."  What is that?  Is it three points
>>by one man (which is how many he scored)?

>>While I'm at it, here's another question.  Could someone explain icing
>>the puck to me.

>>Please e-mail replies.  Thanks.

>A hat trick is when a player scores 3 GOALS in one game.

I think the term dates back a long way, from Toronta (or was it Montreal?)
Some prominent hat maker (what do you call a hat maker anyway?) offered
to make a hat for someone (I think it was a specific player) if they scored
3 goals in a specific game. Can't give you any more specifics then that,
though I'm sure someone could give you names, dates, teams et al (the trivia
some people have access too! geesh!).

Quote:
>  Icing is when a
>player shoots or passes the puck from his defending HALF of the ice to his
>attacking Half of the ice past the goal line before someone on his own team
>can play it.  However a team that is shorthanded can "ice" the puck legally.
>If the puck crosses through the goalies crease it is not icing UNLESS it is
>an empty net.  Also if the goalie plays the puck it is not icing.

I've been trying to explain the reason for having the icing rule... but
not doing so well... is it to improve game flow? That's about the only
reason I could think of, off-hand, forcing the defending team to carry the
puck out of their end, instead of just dumping it down the ice all the time.
Anyone?

aaron

 
 
 

TWO STUPID HOCKEY QUESTIONS, PLEASE ADVISE

Post by = » Tue, 25 Apr 1995 04:00:00

: I'm a relatively  new hockey fan.  I went to the Caps/Whalers game last
: friday.  Bondra scored a "hat trick."  What is that?  Is it three points
: by one man (which is how many he scored)?

: While I'm at it, here's another question.  Could someone explain icing
: the puck to me.

: Please e-mail replies.  Thanks.

a hat trick is 3 goals by one person in a game.. since both goals and
assists count as one point, a person could have a goal and 2 assists (for
3 points total) and it wouldnt be a hat trick....

Icing is when a player passes the puck across 2 lines and it crosses the
other teams goal line... to be icing it HAS to be touched up by a player
other than the goalie for the team..

--

RUST IN PEACE.

 
 
 

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Post by schan.. » Tue, 25 Apr 1995 04:00:00

|>>A hat trick is when a player scores 3 GOALS in one game.
|>
|> I think the term dates back a long way, from Toronta (or was it Montreal?)
|> Some prominent hat maker (what do you call a hat maker anyway?) offered
|> to make a hat for someone (I think it was a specific player) if they scored
|> 3 goals in a specific game.

It was Toronto.  The hat maker promised a hat to any Toronto player who
scored three unanswered goals.  Thus, a legitimate hat trick is three
unanswered goals.  An illegitimate hat trick is three goals in a game, but
not unanswered.  I guess for a hat trick to be truly legitimate, it has to be
by a Maple Leaf player.

                                   Regards,
                                   The Regulator

 
 
 

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Post by dvo90.. » Wed, 26 Apr 1995 04:00:00

Quote:


>>  Icing is when a
>>player shoots or passes the puck from his defending HALF of the ice to his
>>attacking Half of the ice past the goal line before someone on his own team
>>can play it.  However a team that is shorthanded can "ice" the puck legally.
>>If the puck crosses through the goalies crease it is not icing UNLESS it is
>>an empty net.  Also if the goalie plays the puck it is not icing.

>I've been trying to explain the reason for having the icing rule... but
>not doing so well... is it to improve game flow? That's about the only
>reason I could think of, off-hand, forcing the defending team to carry the
>puck out of their end, instead of just dumping it down the ice all the time.
>Anyone?

>aaron

Its to keep players from mindlessly getting out of trouble by shooting the puck
down the ice without penalty.  For instance if there a 3 offensive players near
the crease and the puck is centered, it is to prevent a defensive player from
clearing it.  To keep the game fair. not to mention conserve time.
Damon
 
 
 

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Post by dvo90.. » Wed, 26 Apr 1995 04:00:00

Quote:


>: I'm a relatively  new hockey fan.  I went to the Caps/Whalers game last
>: friday.  Bondra scored a "hat trick."  What is that?  Is it three points
>: by one man (which is how many he scored)?

>: While I'm at it, here's another question.  Could someone explain icing
>: the puck to me.

>: Please e-mail replies.  Thanks.

>a hat trick is 3 goals by one person in a game.. since both goals and
>assists count as one point, a person could have a goal and 2 assists (for
>3 points total) and it wouldnt be a hat trick....

>Icing is when a player passes the puck across 2 lines and it crosses the
>other teams goal line... to be icing it HAS to be touched up by a player
>other than the goalie for the team..

>--

>RUST IN PEACE.

Icing is a little more complicated than that my friend.  For instance when is
it not icing?
Damon
 
 
 

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Post by Alex A Godda » Wed, 26 Apr 1995 04:00:00

: It was Toronto.  The hat maker promised a hat to any Toronto player who
: scored three unanswered goals.  Thus, a legitimate hat trick is three
: unanswered goals.  An illegitimate hat trick is three goals in a game, but
: not unanswered.  I guess for a hat trick to be truly legitimate, it has to be
: by a Maple Leaf player.

Wrong, wrong, wrong.  This question is answered, correctly, in the FAQ.  
The term was originally a British cricket term, but was first used in
hockey in Guelph, Ontario.  The Guelph Biltmore's of the OHA, sponsored by
Biltmore hat company, gave a hat to a player scoring 3 goals in a game.  
This was the first application of the term to hockey.  The Maple Leaf angle
on the story is pure fiction.

Alex

 
 
 

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Post by p.. » Wed, 26 Apr 1995 04:00:00


Quote:
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ron Ranta) writes:
>: |>>A hat trick is when a player scores 3 GOALS in one game.
>: |>
>: |> I think the term dates back a long way, from Toronta (or was it Montreal?)
>: |> Some prominent hat maker (what do you call a hat maker anyway?) offered
>: |> to make a hat for someone (I think it was a specific player) if they score
d
>: |> 3 goals in a specific game.
>:
>: It was Toronto.  The hat maker promised a hat to any Toronto player who
>: scored three unanswered goals.  Thus, a legitimate hat trick is three
>: unanswered goals.  An illegitimate hat trick is three goals in a game, but
>: not unanswered.  I guess for a hat trick to be truly legitimate, it has to be
>: by a Maple Leaf player.

>:                                    Regards,
>:                                    The Regulator

>The term hat-trick is not only used in hockey, but in soccer (or perhaps
>even field hockey, lacrosse, handball?) as well. I might be wrong, but the
>story I heard about where the term came from, was that in the old days
>when a magician performed a trick with his hat, the most common thing he
>would do was to pull out three bunnies out of the hat.

> Yup, Your wrong! The  term hat-trick came from the game Criket. When a

player hit the  ball through all of the rings the fans would applaud him
and he would show his gratitude by elegantly removing his hat. Thus, hitting
the ball through all of the rings became known as a hat-trick.
 
 
 

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Post by Kwok Ching H » Wed, 26 Apr 1995 04:00:00


: |>>A hat trick is when a player scores 3 GOALS in one game.
: |>
: |> I think the term dates back a long way, from Toronta (or was it Montreal?)
: |> Some prominent hat maker (what do you call a hat maker anyway?) offered
: |> to make a hat for someone (I think it was a specific player) if they scored
: |> 3 goals in a specific game.
:  
: It was Toronto.  The hat maker promised a hat to any Toronto player who
: scored three unanswered goals.  Thus, a legitimate hat trick is three
: unanswered goals.  An illegitimate hat trick is three goals in a game, but
: not unanswered.  I guess for a hat trick to be truly legitimate, it has to be
: by a Maple Leaf player.

:                                    Regards,
:                                    The Regulator

The term hat-trick is not only used in hockey, but in soccer (or perhaps
even field hockey, lacrosse, handball?) as well. I might be wrong, but the
story I heard about where the term came from, was that in the old days
when a magician performed a trick with his hat, the most common thing he
would do was to pull out three bunnies out of the hat.

 
 
 

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Post by Dane He » Wed, 26 Apr 1995 04:00:00

Peter Bondra actually had a "pure" hat trick, in that no one else
scored between the goals Bondra scored.

Icing is "waved-off" if the team icing the puck is short handed.In

Quote:


>: I'm a relatively  new hockey fan.  I went to the Caps/Whalers game
last
>: friday.  Bondra scored a "hat trick."  What is that?  Is it three
points
>: by one man (which is how many he scored)?

>: While I'm at it, here's another question.  Could someone explain
icing
>: the puck to me.

>: Please e-mail replies.  Thanks.

>a hat trick is 3 goals by one person in a game.. since both goals and
>assists count as one point, a person could have a goal and 2 assists
(for
>3 points total) and it wouldnt be a hat trick....

>Icing is when a player passes the puck across 2 lines and it crosses
the
>other teams goal line... to be icing it HAS to be touched up by a
player
>other than the goalie for the team..

>--

>RUST IN PEACE.

 
 
 

TWO STUPID HOCKEY QUESTIONS, PLEASE ADVISE

Post by m.. » Wed, 26 Apr 1995 04:00:00

Quote:

>I've been trying to explain the reason for having the icing rule... but
>not doing so well... is it to improve game flow? That's about the only
>reason I could think of, off-hand, forcing the defending team to carry the
>puck out of their end, instead of just dumping it down the ice all the time.
>Anyone?

>aaron

 my guess would be to allow the offense to keep the pressure on. because if
 the defense could just dump the puck out of the zone every time they were in
 trouble it would be difficult to generate as much offense. so now when they
 dump the puck out it just comes back to their zone.
    matt
 
 
 

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Post by Monume » Wed, 26 Apr 1995 04:00:00


: > I've been trying to explain the reason for having the icing rule... but
: > not doing so well... is it to improve game flow? That's about the only
: > reason I could think of, off-hand, forcing the defending team to carry the
: > puck out of their end, instead of just dumping it down the ice all the time.

: If you didn't have an icing rule, there would be no sustained
: offensive pressure... The defensive team would simply fire the puck
: down the ice... It would make the game slow and boring... This way,
: the defensive team is penalized for not trying to move the puck out...

Also, it prevents cherry picking... no wait, that's the 2 line pass
rule.  

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Post by Sean Ka » Wed, 26 Apr 1995 04:00:00

Quote:

> I've been trying to explain the reason for having the icing rule... but
> not doing so well... is it to improve game flow? That's about the only
> reason I could think of, off-hand, forcing the defending team to carry the
> puck out of their end, instead of just dumping it down the ice all the time.
> Anyone?

If you didn't have an icing rule, there would be no sustained
offensive pressure... The defensive team would simply fire the puck
down the ice... It would make the game slow and boring... This way,
the defensive team is penalized for not trying to move the puck out...

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