Pens split weekend/ Pens news 3/9

Pens split weekend/ Pens news 3/9

Post by Lori Iannami » Wed, 11 Mar 1992 02:32:42


Since Nelson already described the Pens-Sharks game, I see no point in
rehashing it.   But I'd like to add that I wasn't impressed with the Pens
win.  I thought they looked sloppy at times, and remembering thinking "If they
play like this against the Kings, they'll lose."

Well, they did play like that against the Kings, and they did lose.  5-3.
The Pens allowed 3 break-away goals (one a short handed goal.)  Kelly Hrudy
stopped 35 of 38 shots.  Not to take anything away from Hrudy, because he
played an excellent game, but a numberof those shots were stoppable.  That's
because the Kings had disrupted the Pens style of play, and forced them
to take shots they normally wouldn't.  The Kings outplayed the Pens in
almost every aspect of the game.  The Kings didn't score on the power play.
Which was probably due more to Coffey being out than the Pens playing well.

I'm not suprised that they lost, considering the Pens have a losing record
this season against teams above .500.  The Kings looked like a team gearing
up for the playoffs, and the Pens looked like a team struggling to make the
playoffs.

The Kings were up and ready to play.  They controlled the tempo of
the game from the opening faceoff.  The Pens occasionally would play them
even, but couldn't do it consistently for the first 2 periods, and didn't
do it at all in the third.

The Kings scored first at 3:49.  Luc Robitaille's shot (McSorley, Thompson)
bounced off the inside of Barrasso's skate and into the net.  That was all
the scoring in the first.  Both teams had power play chances, but neither were
able to capitalize.  

The Pens power play continues to look totally disorganized, with practically
every player on the team with the exception of the goalies playing the points.
Bowman is trying to fill the void left by Coffey, and he's trying every
combination of point men he can think of.  So far, nothing is really working.
And this inability to generate any kind of action on the power play is really
hurting the Pens.

The Pens were able to score in the second.  In one of the few instances the
Pens were able to put anything together, Larry Murphy(Stevens, Lemieux 5:15)
on a nice feed from Stevens, put the puck between Hrudy's legs.  The puck
either bounced off or bounced over the heel of Hrudy's left skate.

The Pens scored again at 9:04, on a flukey goal.  Bryan Trottier (Loney),
was to the right of Hrudy.  He was standing almost parallel with the net, and
he was about halfway between the boards and the net.  He just shot the puck.
I don't know exactly what he was trying to do, but all of the sudden the goal
light game on.  On the replay it looked like the puck bounced off the webbing
in Hrudy's glove, fell to the ice and hit the post, and bounced into the net.
That's the last time the Pens would have the lead.

The Kings scored the tying goal at 10:24.  Jarri Kurri fed Wayne Gretzky with
a grat pass, and he and Tony Granato were off to the races.  They had a two on
one break, with Larry Murphy the lone defenseman.  Barrasso moved over to play
Gretzky, who then passed to Granato.  Murphy was unable to cut off the pass.  
Barrasso tried to move back but was too late.  The game was tied after 2.

:17 into the third, the Kings scored again.  Taylor(dont know his first name.)
put a rebound past Barrasso.  Larry Murphy could have cleared the rebound, but
didn't appear to see it until it was too late. (Donnelly, McIntyre assisted.)

At 3:16, Hrudy came up with a big save, which lead to a big score.  He stopped
Jaromir Jagr on a backhander.  Thompson(Sorry, I don't know his first name
either.) got the rebound and passed it to Gretzky.  He and Granato took off
on another 2 on 1, with Paul Stanton as the lone defenseman. (Hi Ho Silver.
The Pens defen*** should start wearing masks.)  Granato went upstairs to
beat Barrasso.

The 3rd Kings goal came during a Pens power play.  The disorganization finally
caught up with them.  Gretzky (Robinson, McIntrye) and another King (I didn't
see who.) took off on yet another 2 on 1, with Murphy back.  Gretzky passed the
puck, Barrasso slid over.  Murphy went down, and actually blocked the pass.
Unfortunately for Larry, the puck bounced off his body and back out to Gretzky
who put it past Barrasso who was trying to get back to Gretzky's side of the
net.

The Pens scored a power play goal at 18:37.  Larry Watters went out on a five
minute major for high sticking at 16:14.  Rick Tocchet(Stevens, McEachern)
beat a screened Hrudy.  But it was much too little too late.  The Pens pulled
Barrasso to put a sixth attacker on.  All that meant was 6 Pens were totally
confused on the power play instead of the normal 5.

Lemieux was looking a bit ragged by the end of the game.  I don't know why
Bowman played him in back to back games.  I expected him to sit out the San
Jose game.  Because Lemieux always has trouble the next day, especially if
travel is involved.  His legs looked to be gone by the third.

I also thought Wregget would play in San Jose.  I was surprised to see Barrasso
playing.  Has Wregget found his way into Bowman's doghouse, too?

Scratches: Wendell Young, Frank Pietrangelo, Kjell Samuelsson (Friday only.  
Due to the flu.), Paul Stanton (Friday only.) Peter Taglianetti (Saturday only)
Grant Jennings (Saturday only), Jiri Hrdina, Ken Priestlay, Jamie Leach,
Jim Paek. (I have no idea way Paek was scratched.  I didn't hear anything about
him having the flu.  If Bowman scratched a perfectly healthy Jim Paek, he's
crazy.)

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Craig Patrick admitted he is having a difficult time trying to deal his
surplus players.   His main concern right now is trying to move one (or
both) of the spare goalies.   He has until 3:00pm March 10th to trade players.
I don't know if he'll be able to do it, or what he'll have to sacrifice to do
it.

In yesterday's Pgh. Press, it was reported that Patrick was trying to look
for a defenseman to replace Paul Coffey. (He's obviously going for a younger,
cheaper model.  Otherwise, he's have kept the original.)  It was also reported
that the Calgary Flames have expressed interest in Ulf Samuelsson.  But Patrick
is not interested in dealing Samuelsson.
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Bryan Trottier is quoted in an article in this morning's Post Gazette as saying
that the players are closer than ever in calling a strike if nothing is
resolved in this most recent round of player/owner talks.

"Absolutely.  As the deadline gets closer and closer, there's a greater and
greater chance."  said Trottier after the Pens-Kings game on Saturday.  "We
need to see some movement."

"The mood and the general feeling that we get from the owners will determine
the course the players have to take." he said.  "Hopefully, it will be very
positive, and both sides will be willing to hit the books."

If nothing is resolved, the players could strike as soon as Mar 16, the day
after they receive their final paycheck of the season.

Trottier, president of the NHLPA,  flew to NYC yesterday afternoon to prepare
for today's meetings.  The meetings are expected to last all week, but
Trottier said he plans to fly back for the Pens game at home against Calgary
on Tuesday.

Lori
Contact for the Penguins

 
 
 

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Post by James J. Muraws » Wed, 11 Mar 1992 11:57:35

Excerpts From Captions of netnews.rec.sport.hockey:

Quote:
>Well, they did play like that against the Kings, and they did lose.  5-3.
>The Pens allowed 3 break-away goals (one a short handed goal.)  Kelly Hrudy
>stopped 35 of 38 shots.  Not to take anything away from Hrudy, because he
>played an excellent game, but a numberof those shots were stoppable.  That's
>because the Kings had disrupted the Pens style of play, and forced them
>to take shots they normally wouldn't.  The Kings outplayed the Pens in
>almost every aspect of the game.  The Kings didn't score on the power play.
>Which was probably due more to Coffey being out than the Pens playing well.

Well, from my vantage point (TV), and from the vantage points of other
Pens fans who watched the game on TV, and from the vantage point of the
Pittsburgh media, and the vantage point of Lange and Steigerwald,
the Pens controlled the play and outplayed the Kings for the most part.
What killed the Pens was the three two-on-ones (all goals) that the
Kings had and the fact that Hrudey had another spectacular night in goal.

Here's a paragraph from an article by The Pittsburgh Press' Dave Molinari
from todays editions:

"Hrudey is the main reason the Kings swept three games against the
Penguins this season, and his 35 saves Saturday kept the Penguins from
winning a game in which they clearly outplayed Los Angeles."

Yes, many times when the Pens lose (or any team for that matter), they
look bad doing it.  But not Saturday night.

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Post by Anna Maty » Thu, 12 Mar 1992 02:16:02

Quote:

>Excerpts From Captions of netnews.rec.sport.hockey:
>>played an excellent game, but a numberof those shots were stoppable.  That's
>>because the Kings had disrupted the Pens style of play, and forced them
>>to take shots they normally wouldn't.  The Kings outplayed the Pens in
>>almost every aspect of the game.  The Kings didn't score on the power play.
>>Which was probably due more to Coffey being out than the Pens playing well.

>Well, from my vantage point (TV), and from the vantage points of other
>Pens fans who watched the game on TV, and from the vantage point of the
>Pittsburgh media, and the vantage point of Lange and Steigerwald,
>the Pens controlled the play and outplayed the Kings for the most part.
>What killed the Pens was the three two-on-ones (all goals) that the
>Kings had and the fact that Hrudey had another spectacular night in goal.

I agree with Jim.  The Pens played THEIR game; I don't understand
Lori's comment about the Kings disrupting the Pens style of play.
Three two-on-ones does not mean that the Penguins played poorly.  The
only thing the Kings disrupted was Barrasso, and I predicted that would
happen.  My assessment is that both goaltenders controlled the outcome
of the game.  And, as usual, it was negative for the Pens.  This was one
of the more entertaining games in recent memory.  I'm glad I taped it;
I'll enjoy watching it in the middle of July when I'm dying for hockey.

 
 
 

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Post by Lori Iannami » Thu, 12 Mar 1992 02:43:06

Quote:

>I agree with Jim.  The Pens played THEIR game; I don't understand
>Lori's comment about the Kings disrupting the Pens style of play.
>Three two-on-ones does not mean that the Penguins played poorly.  The
>only thing the Kings disrupted was Barrasso, and I predicted that would
>happen.  My assessment is that both goaltenders controlled the outcome
>of the game.  And, as usual, it was negative for the Pens.  This was one
>of the more entertaining games in recent memory.  I'm glad I taped it;
>I'll enjoy watching it in the middle of July when I'm dying for hockey.

Yes, the Pens played their game.  Getting intimidated and being outworked
by a team over .500.  Just like they have been all season.  I thought they
played terrible, and deserved to lose.  

And the whole team, not just Hrudy (Who has dominated the Pens his entire
career), worked hard for the win.

I was not impressed at all with the play of the Pens.  

Lori

 
 
 

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Post by Viktor Go » Thu, 12 Mar 1992 05:29:07


Quote:

>Excerpts From Captions of netnews.rec.sport.hockey:
>Well, from my vantage point (TV), and from the vantage points of other
>Pens fans who watched the game on TV, and from the vantage point of the
>Pittsburgh media, and the vantage point of Lange and Steigerwald,
>the Pens controlled the play and outplayed the Kings for the most part.
>What killed the Pens was the three two-on-ones (all goals) that the
>Kings had and the fact that Hrudey had another spectacular night in goal.

I totally agree. When I first read Lori's update, I was going to post the same
thing, but it was late, so I left it for today. Two of the three games we
played against the Kings, the Pens outplayed them, but couldn't beat Hrudey.
Saturday was the worst. I wasn't disappointed about the way the Pens played,
I thought they came on strong. (well, except for the three two-on-ones which
resulted in three goals, of course)

Also Lori, you mentioned that most of the Pens shots on goal were not serious.
I think that 85+% of those shots were shots that most goalies would have had
a hard time stopping. Hrudey was incredible, somehow he always picks the Pens
to have a great night against. From what I understand he "couldn't stop a
beachball" when LA played Calgary. (?)

I also thought that Tocchet and Lemieux were reading each other well, and
that Stevens was actually working pretty hard. McEachern played well, too.

Vik

 
 
 

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Post by Lori Iannami » Thu, 12 Mar 1992 06:41:38

Quote:

>I totally agree. When I first read Lori's update, I was going to post the same
>thing, but it was late, so I left it for today. Two of the three games we
>played against the Kings, the Pens outplayed them, but couldn't beat Hrudey.
>Saturday was the worst. I wasn't disappointed about the way the Pens played,
>I thought they came on strong. (well, except for the three two-on-ones which
>resulted in three goals, of course)
>I think that 85+% of those shots were shots that most goalies would have had
>a hard time stopping. Hrudey was incredible, somehow he always picks the Pens
>to have a great night against. From what I understand he "couldn't stop a
>beachball" when LA played Calgary. (?)

Hrudy has alway killed the Pens, even if he goes belly up against other teams.
I have said that in the last 2 Kings-Pens post.  But this time I felt a
number (notice I said a number.  Which is what I said in my original post.)
were stoppable shots.  

Which isn't taking anything away from Hrudy, but placing some credit on the
play of the Kings.  Who, in my opinion, outplayed the Pens.  Take it or leave
it, because I'm not going to change it.

Lori

 
 
 

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Post by Prashan » Thu, 12 Mar 1992 07:30:54

Quote:


> >..... Two of the three games we
> >played against the Kings, the Pens outplayed them, but couldn't beat Hrudey.
> >Saturday was the worst. I wasn't disappointed about the way the Pens played,
> >I thought they came on strong. (well, except for the three two-on-ones which
> >resulted in three goals, of course)

Credit the Kings' defense for forcing lower-percentage shots by the
Pens. And I wouldn't call giving up 3 2-on-1s to Gretzky & Co. 'outplaying'
anybody.

Quote:
> >I think that 85+% of those shots were shots that most goalies would have had
> >a hard time stopping. Hrudey was incredible, somehow he always picks the Pens
> >to have a great night against. From what I understand he "couldn't stop a
> >beachball" when LA played Calgary. (?)

yes..
He was coming off starting 16 consecutive games, often stopping
35-40 shots/game. That game in Calgary was a wild, wild one. They
rested Hrudey for the next game, and he is back to his great form.
And that save against the Pens when he reached back with his pads
to stop the puck he 'knew' was going in was just unbelievable.

Quote:
> Which isn't taking anything away from Hrudy, but placing some credit on the
> play of the Kings.  Who, in my opinion, outplayed the Pens.  Take it or leave
> it, because I'm not going to change it.
> Lori

Exactly!!

The Pens' players like to jump deep into the the offensive zone.
That is their style of play that relies on scoring often to make
up for the 2-on-1s. Against a hot goalie like Hrudey a more patient
approach is needed, considering the offensive fire-power LA has
up front. Montreal played a brilliant, patient, controlled game when they
were in LA last week. That was a perfect game-plan they played, even
when they fell behind 3-0. They did almost everything right, except
win the game. If I were a Mon fan, that would be one losss I could
live with any day.

LA Kings, 8 Ws in a row & counting..

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Post by Viktor Go » Thu, 12 Mar 1992 13:58:13

Quote:
>Hrudy has alway killed the Pens, even if he goes belly up against other teams.
>I have said that in the last 2 Kings-Pens post.  But this time I felt a
>number (notice I said a number.  Which is what I said in my original post.)
>were stoppable shots.  

I know. He should pick on other teams. But in most games there are always a
number of shots that are stoppable. I still think _most_ of them were of
good quality.

Quote:
>Which isn't taking anything away from Hrudy, but placing some credit on the
>play of the Kings.  Who, in my opinion, outplayed the Pens.  Take it or leave
>it, because I'm not going to change it.

>Lori

I still think the Pens outplayed the Kings. But I never expected you to change
your view on this, or anything else. After all this net would be pretty boring
if everyone would always agree on everything. I was just surprised, that's all.

On a different note, I thought the "trade" was pretty boring. I know that
Pietrangelo wanted to get traded, and we had too many goaltenders, but
"future considerations"...? And I also know that Pietrangelo is no Roy but
I'd rather see him backing up anyone than Young. (he gives me the chills)

Also I think we should have kept Scott Young, even though I didn't like him
when he did play in Pittsburgh. I guess Patrick is itching for another
offensive defenseman.

BTW, Wregget played well tonight against Calgary. And Tocchet had two more
goals, that's 6 goals in 3 games. Pretty decent.

Vik

 
 
 

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Post by Anna Maty » Thu, 12 Mar 1992 22:59:31

Quote:
>Which isn't taking anything away from Hrudy, but placing some credit on the
>play of the Kings.  Who, in my opinion, outplayed the Pens.  Take it or leave
>it, because I'm not going to change it.

>Lori

I don't think anyone is asking you to change your opinion, Lori;
we're simply expressing ours, the way you express yours.