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Post by Glenn Ch » Fri, 13 Sep 1996 04:00:00


                        Established     Legitimate
Year    Event           "champion"    challenger              Winner

1983    Stanley Cup     NY Islanders    Edmonton Oilers         Islanders
1984    rematch                                                 Oilers

1987    Wimbledon       Navratilova     Steffi Graf             Navratilova
1988    rematch                                                 Graf

1988    Smythe Final    Oilers          Calgary Flames          Oilers
1989    rematch                                                 Flames

1988    NBA Final       LA Lakers       Detroit Pistons         Lakers
1989    rematch                                                 Pistons

1990    Stanley Cup     Oilers          Boston Bruins           Oilers
        no rematch

1996    World Cup       Canada          USA                     ?

 
 
 

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Post by Ryan Thie » Fri, 13 Sep 1996 04:00:00

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>                    Established     Legitimate
>Year        Event           "champion"    challenger              Winner
>1983        Stanley Cup     NY Islanders    Edmonton Oilers         Islanders
>1984        rematch                                                 Oilers
>1987        Wimbledon       Navratilova     Steffi Graf             Navratilova
>1988        rematch                                                 Graf
>1988        Smythe Final    Oilers          Calgary Flames          Oilers
>1989        rematch                                                 Flames
>1988        NBA Final       LA Lakers       Detroit Pistons         Lakers
>1989        rematch                                                 Pistons
>1990        Stanley Cup     Oilers          Boston Bruins           Oilers
>    no rematch
>1996        World Cup       Canada          USA                     ?

And this is relevant, how?

Other than an interesting trend, what's the point?

Ryan

 
 
 

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Post by Gerald Olcho » Fri, 13 Sep 1996 04:00:00

|>                   Established     Legitimate
|> Year      Event           "champion"    challenger              Winner
|>
|> 1983      Stanley Cup     NY Islanders    Edmonton Oilers         Islanders
|> 1984      rematch                                                 Oilers
|>
|> 1987      Wimbledon       Navratilova     Steffi Graf             Navratilova
|> 1988      rematch                                                 Graf
|>
|> 1988      Smythe Final    Oilers          Calgary Flames          Oilers
|> 1989      rematch                                                 Flames
|>

The Flames did not beat the Oilers in 1989...the only time the Flames beat
the Oilers in the playoffs was in 1986 when the infamous Steve Smith incident
occurred.

|> 1988      NBA Final       LA Lakers       Detroit Pistons         Lakers
|> 1989      rematch                                                 Pistons
|>
|> 1990      Stanley Cup     Oilers          Boston Bruins           Oilers
|>   no rematch
|>
|> 1996      World Cup       Canada          USA                     ?

--
Gerald

 
 
 

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Post by Peck » Fri, 13 Sep 1996 04:00:00

Quote:
> The Flames did not beat the Oilers in 1989...the only time the Flames beat
> the Oilers in the playoffs was in 1986 when the infamous Steve Smith incident
> occurred.

> |> 1988 NBA Final       LA Lakers       Detroit Pistons         Lakers
> |> 1989 rematch                                                 Pistons
> |>
> |> 1990 Stanley Cup     Oilers          Boston Bruins           Oilers
> |>      no rematch
> |>
> |> 1996 World Cup       Canada          USA                     ?

> --
> Gerald

Hey, the Flames were in the Stanley cup twice weren't they?

1986 and 1989. They won in it 1989. I'm pretty sure that that's how
it went. Any flames fans out there to back me up?

 
 
 

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Post by Glenn Ch » Fri, 13 Sep 1996 04:00:00

: And this is relevant, how?
: Other than an interesting trend, what's the point?

In each of the stated cases, the "Established champion" was, if memory
serves, a slight underdog to an upstart challenger and managed to
thwart the upstart the FIRST time.  I don't believe it's a coincidence since
winning a championship is as much state of mind as it is physical performance.

Hopefully, the trend holds and Canada fends off USA in this World Cup.

PS:  Thanks for the correction, Gerald.  I saw my mistake after
     consulting a reference.

Glenn

 
 
 

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Post by ilov » Sat, 14 Sep 1996 04:00:00

Quote:
>Hey, the Flames were in the Stanley cup twice weren't they?
>1986 and 1989. They won in it 1989. I'm pretty sure that that's how
>it went. Any flames fans out there to back me up?

You are correct sir.  But they haven't won a playoff series since.

Later,
ab

 
 
 

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Post by Garry Holm » Sat, 14 Sep 1996 04:00:00

: Hey, the Flames were in the Stanley cup twice weren't they?
:
: 1986 and 1989. They won in it 1989. I'm pretty sure that that's how
: it went. Any flames fans out there to back me up?

Umm... no. The year that the Flames beat the Oilers they lost to
Montreal in the finals. The year after the Gretzky trade ('89) the
Kings dispatched the Oilers if my memory serves correctly.

The Flames knocked out the Kings and the rest is history.

Garry

 
 
 

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Post by Bill Pollar » Sat, 14 Sep 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

>1988        Smythe Final    Oilers          Calgary Flames          Oilers
>1989        rematch                                                 Flames

I remember that '89 series so well...Lanny McDonald's hat trick and
pulverizing of Mark Messier in game 5. Vernon robbing Glenn Anderson in
the 4th overtime of game 6, tying the series and setting the stage for
that memorable goal by Bearcat Murray in game 7. :-)

Of course, this all happened on an alternate Earth, and not this one, so
keep Sliding ... :-)

-Used without permission of the FOX network.

 
 
 

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Post by Jason Yeu » Sun, 15 Sep 1996 04:00:00

: Hey, the Flames were in the Stanley cup twice weren't they?

: 1986 and 1989. They won in it 1989. I'm pretty sure that that's how
: it went. Any flames fans out there to back me up?
  The Flames beat the Canucks, Kings, Blackhawks and Habs to win the cup
in 1989.  Calgary remains the only other team to parade in the Montreal
Forum with the cup. (Montreal is the other, obviously).
  In 1986, they beat the Jets (?), Oilers, Blues (?), but lost the Cup to
Montreal.

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Post by Scott Zabinsk » Fri, 20 Sep 1996 04:00:00

Quote:


> >                       Established     Legitimate
> >Year   Event           "champion"      challenger              Winner

> >1983   Stanley Cup     NY Islanders    Edmonton Oilers         Islanders
> >1984   rematch                                                 Oilers

> >1987   Wimbledon       Navratilova     Steffi Graf             Navratilova
> >1988   rematch                                                 Graf

> >1988   Smythe Final    Oilers          Calgary Flames          Oilers
> >1989   rematch                                                 Flames

> >1988   NBA Final       LA Lakers       Detroit Pistons         Lakers
> >1989   rematch                                                 Pistons

> >1990   Stanley Cup     Oilers          Boston Bruins           Oilers
> >       no rematch

> >1996   World Cup       Canada          USA                     ?

> And this is relevant, how?

> Other than an interesting trend, what's the point?

> Ryan

What does the Oilers-Bruins series have to do with anything?
 
 
 

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Post by Taras A. Hetmancz » Fri, 20 Sep 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

> The Flames did not beat the Oilers in 1989...the only time the Flames beat
> the Oilers in the playoffs was in 1986 when the infamous Steve Smith
incident
> occurred.

> |> 1988 NBA Final       LA Lakers       Detroit Pistons         Lakers
> |> 1989 rematch                                                 Pistons
> |>
> |> 1990 Stanley Cup     Oilers          Boston Bruins           Oilers
> |>      no rematch
> |>
> |> 1996 World Cup       Canada          USA                     ?

> --
> Gerald

Hey, the Flames were in the Stanley cup twice weren't they?

1986 and 1989. They won in it 1989. I'm pretty sure that that's how
it went. Any flames fans out there to back me up?

Yup... should have won it in 1986 as well but those pesky Blues took them to
7 games in the semi finals and that took too much out of the team....

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Post by Zib » Wed, 25 Sep 1996 04:00:00

Quote:


> > The Flames did not beat the Oilers in 1989...the only time the Flames beat
> > the Oilers in the playoffs was in 1986 when the infamous Steve Smith
> incident
> > occurred.

> > |> 1988 NBA Final       LA Lakers       Detroit Pistons         Lakers
> > |> 1989 rematch                                                 Pistons
> > |>
> > |> 1990 Stanley Cup     Oilers          Boston Bruins           Oilers
> > |>      no rematch
> > |>
> > |> 1996 World Cup       Canada          USA                     ?

> > --
> > Gerald

> Hey, the Flames were in the Stanley cup twice weren't they?

> 1986 and 1989. They won in it 1989. I'm pretty sure that that's how
> it went. Any flames fans out there to back me up?

> Yup... should have won it in 1986 as well but those pesky Blues took them to
> 7 games in the semi finals and that took too much out of the team....

I thought Calgary did win it twice