MAPLE LEAF GARDENS

MAPLE LEAF GARDENS

Post by Vern Faulkne » Mon, 07 Oct 1996 04:00:00


 TD>  Now 65 years old, there is talk of replacing it.The National Hockey
 TD> league should preserve it's history by leaving it un-altered, and
 TD> moving the Hockey Hall of Fame to the history filled hallways of the
 TD> greatest build in hockey history.

I thought the Montreal Forum was slated for destruction, though?

 
 
 

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Post by Sean » Mon, 07 Oct 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

> MAPLE LEAF GARDENS

>         Now 65 years old, there is talk of replacing it.The National Hockey
> league should preserve it's history by leaving it un-altered, and
> moving the Hockey Hall of Fame to the history filled hallways of the
> greatest build in hockey history.
>         All who have walked it's hallways or  skated on it's ice, will agree
> with me.

> Tony Day


If the Forum in Montreal can be replaced...the Gardens in Toronto can
also be replaced.Oh well...the almighty dollar wins again.Too bad.

Sean

 
 
 

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Post by Ron Wen » Mon, 07 Oct 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

>MAPLE LEAF GARDENS

>    Now 65 years old, there is talk of replacing it.The National Hockey
>league should preserve it's history by leaving it un-altered, and
>moving the Hockey Hall of Fame to the history filled hallways of the
>greatest build in hockey history.
>All who have walked it's hallways or  skated on it's ice, will agree
>with me.

I love the Gardens and 3 years ago I might have agreed with you.  However,
the new Hockey Hall of Fame is amazing.  Many people have called it the best
Hall of Fame for any major sport.  I wouldn't want to move the HOF.  

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Post by Tony D » Mon, 07 Oct 1996 04:00:00

MAPLE LEAF GARDENS

        Now 65 years old, there is talk of replacing it.The National Hockey
league should preserve it's history by leaving it un-altered, and
moving the Hockey Hall of Fame to the history filled hallways of the
greatest build in hockey history.
        All who have walked it's hallways or  skated on it's ice, will agree
with me.

Tony Day

 
 
 

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Post by JAMES MART » Mon, 07 Oct 1996 04:00:00

: MAPLE LEAF GARDENS

:       Now 65 years old, there is talk of replacing it.The National Hockey
: league should preserve it's history by leaving it un-altered, and
: moving the Hockey Hall of Fame to the history filled hallways of the
: greatest build in hockey history.
:       All who have walked it's hallways or  skated on it's ice, will agree
: with me.

: Tony Day

Maple Leafs Gardens is an embarra***t to the NHL and the City of
Toronto. Blew it up in a million pieces.

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Post by Chris Wa » Tue, 08 Oct 1996 04:00:00


and spelling:

Quote:
>Maple Leafs Gardens is an embarra***t to the NHL and the City of
>Toronto. Blew it up in a million pieces.

You could probably get away with saying that at the corner of Church
and Carlton -- once.  You might even manage to walk a couple of steps
before you got mashed into the streetcar tracks by me and any other
hockey/Leaf fans in the vicinity.

What kind of goof are you to say such a thing?  I don't care what team
you are a fan of or not, to spew ***like that is completely without
class.  *You* are an embarrassment to true fans of the NHL and
whatever city it is that is blighted by your presence.  "Blew" you up
in a million slimey pieces (I just hope that none of you lands in
Hamilton Harbour -- that would make it dirty).

Chris Ward,
Toronto.

 
 
 

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Post by Chris Wa » Tue, 08 Oct 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

>If the Forum in Montreal can be replaced...the Gardens in Toronto can
>also be replaced.Oh well...the almighty dollar wins again.Too bad.

Yeah, pity.  The Forum should've been preserved, and so should the
Gardens.
 
 
 

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Post by NJDevilC » Tue, 08 Oct 1996 04:00:00


Quote:


>: MAPLE LEAF GARDENS

>:   Now 65 years old, there is talk of replacing it.The National
Hockey
>: league should preserve it's history by leaving it un-altered, and
>: moving the Hockey Hall of Fame to the history filled hallways of the
>: greatest build in hockey history.
>:   All who have walked it's hallways or  skated on it's ice, will
agree
>: with me.

>: Tony Day

>Maple Leafs Gardens is an embarra***t to the NHL and the City of
>Toronto. Blew it up in a million pieces.

I have to say, I dislike the current Leafs (Gilmour, Clark, et. al.) but I
absolutely LOVE the Gardens and I'm amazed by the number of people
who dislike it.

I paid triple face-value to go a game there and felt extremely satisfied.
The seats were cramped, old, and wooden, so I immediately felt
transported back to the 1930s and guys like Ace Bailey. There's not
a bad seat in the house, and the whole setting is very intimate. As an
added bonus, the Leafs got shut out.

But as I left, I took a good look around at the photos, jerseys, pennants
and everything that adorned the corridors. This place is the last link to
true hockey history. I had hoped it would last forever, but I guess greed,
corporations (just note all those Air Canada neon signs all over the
Molson Centre) and ignorance guide this new era of the NHL. Maybe we
can get enough NHL fans to chip in and buy the Gardens to avoid
tearing it down. It may be ugly from the outside, but I envy all of you
that get to go to games there on a regular basis.

There's enough other ugly things around Toronto (read: Skydome)
that could be blown up if you want to improve the beauty of TO.

I love the original poster's idea of moving the Hall of Fame into the
Gardens. Make Conn Smythe's spirit live on...

Kuch

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Post by Richard St. Pierr » Tue, 08 Oct 1996 04:00:00

Quote:


> >If the Forum in Montreal can be replaced...the Gardens in Toronto can
> >also be replaced.Oh well...the almighty dollar wins again.Too bad.

> Yeah, pity.  The Forum should've been preserved, and so should the
> Gardens.

Right now it's not a question of preservation!  When they began the
study if they should renovate the Forum, the biggest barrier was the
luxury suites.  The luxury suites is what did the Forum in and it'll be
the same in Toronto.  They wanted new more spacious suites to get the
big sponsors behind them.  Like most analyst say, pro teams don't get by
on ticket sales alone.  Corporate sponsorship is what's ripping the game
apart, and the expansion with owners like Walt Disney Corp., Block
Buster etc ... is doing it in!  Why is Winnipeg and Quebec without a
team?  Not because they can't attract 18000 folks into an arena, but
because they don't have the infrastructure to support $100000 suites!  
Hydro Quebec paid $150000 bucks for their suite!  I'm not sure exactly
what priviledges this entitles them to, but that's a yearly premium.

By the way, the Forum isn't slayed for destruction, its new vocation
will be a 30 screen mega entertainment complex.  In my opinion, they
should convert it into somekind of sports museum, with the actual rink
still in place.  This would add to the great tradition of hockey and its
origin and could include other great sports like the history of the CFL
and major league baseball in Canada.  But instead, that idiot Bourque in
Montreal is negotiating with an American based company to take over the
sight and convert into something that'll probably turn out to be a
fiasco.

Cheers.
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Richard St. Pierre

 
 
 

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Post by JAMES MART » Tue, 08 Oct 1996 04:00:00


: and spelling:

: >Maple Leafs Gardens is an embarra***t to the NHL and the City of
: >Toronto. Blew it up in a million pieces.

: You could probably get away with saying that at the corner of Church
: and Carlton -- once.  You might even manage to walk a couple of steps
: before you got mashed into the streetcar tracks by me and any other
: hockey/Leaf fans in the vicinity.

I've said it many times, usually inside that old barn.

: What kind of goof are you to say such a thing?  I don't care what team
: you are a fan of or not, to spew ***like that is completely without
: class.  *You* are an embarrassment to true fans of the NHL and
: whatever city it is that is blighted by your presence.  "Blew" you up
: in a million slimey pieces (I just hope that none of you lands in
: Hamilton Harbour -- that would make it dirty).

Gee Chris, did i hurt your feelings. The Leaf Organization has been
trying to find a way to replace your arena for many, many years and it's
only a matter of time before hockey is no longer played their.

: Chris Ward,
: Toronto.

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Post by Chris Wa » Thu, 10 Oct 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

>Gee Chris, did i hurt your feelings. The Leaf Organization has been
>trying to find a way to replace your arena for many, many years and it's
>only a matter of time before hockey is no longer played their.

Not at all, little man, I hope that the Leafs get a new and improved
home as soon as possible.  However, that does nothing to detract from
my nostalgia and respect for one of Hockey's most hallowed halls.  I'm
guessing that you're too young to have formed a similar attachment, so
your blaspheming is forgiven.

End of thread for this Leaf fan.

Chris.

 
 
 

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Post by Harry Delan » Thu, 10 Oct 1996 04:00:00

Quote:


>Gee Chris, did i hurt your feelings. The Leaf Organization has been
>trying to find a way to replace your arena for many, many years and it's
>only a matter of time before hockey is no longer played their.

Not at all, little man, I hope that the Leafs get a new and improved
home as soon as possible.  However, that does nothing to detract from
my nostalgia and respect for one of Hockey's most hallowed halls.  I'm
guessing that you're too young to have formed a similar attachment, so
your blaspheming is forgiven.

End of thread for this Leaf fan.

Chris.

Well, I just attended a game (vs Edmonton) last nite at Maple Leaf Gardens
and I sat in the greys, the nose-bleeders. Those seats are great! Do other,
newer arenas housing the newer NHL teams have not a bad seat in the house
like MLG? Will the new Leafs arena have cheap seats that are as good? I doubt
it. A new arena can wait, I love that old building!

HD

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Post by Scott Surgen » Sat, 12 Oct 1996 04:00:00

Quote:


> > Well, I just attended a game (vs Edmonton) last nite at Maple Leaf Gardens
> > and I sat in the greys, the nose-bleeders. Those seats are great! Do other,
> > newer arenas housing the newer NHL teams have not a bad seat in the house
> > like MLG? Will the new Leafs arena have cheap seats that are as good?

> I went to the home opener in Phoenix last night (San Jose vs. "Winnipeg").
> When they built America West Arena about 5 years ago, they repeatedly
> said it was built "for basketball".  And it shows.

> The slope of the upper deck seating ($16, $27, $37 seats) is too shallow
> to give you a good view of the entire rink unless everyone sits all the
> way back in their seats, all the time.

> It gets worse... because a hockey rink is larger than a basketball court,
> the floor-level seats at one end are removed for hockey and the rink
> extends *underneath the upper deck*!  Between periods, I checked out the
> "$8.75 obstructed view seats" upstairs at that end: near the top,
> one can see only from the blue line out.  A huge TV monitor hangs
> from the ceiling at that end, but it's a poor substitute at best.

> They claim capacity is 16,210 for hockey (which is too small to begin with),
> but at least 3000 of those seats are an embarrassment to the league.

> And I never thought I'd miss the Buffalo Aud, when I heard it was
> being replaced.  Silly me.

I sat in one of those obstructed view seats.  However, only a small
portion of the rink was out of sight; just a bit of one of the corners.

I find it hard to believe the AWA was built only for basketball.  It
seems that it is a forgone conclusion that all new arenas that go up
should be built to house a rink, even if no hockey teams are on the
horizon.  They will either have to tear down the north end and rebuild
it, or get better video monitors so we can see the action in the low
corners.

Or, perhaps, rebuild Veterans Memorial and put the Coyotes there?
Parking and access would be a problem, I think.

All in all, I can live with 1/12 of the rink out of sight in my $8 seat
with my 28 oz. of watery beer.  I still plan to head out to the Vets and
spend my $8 and get near rinkside to catch the Runners now and then.

Who would've thunk that Phoenix would have two (!) pro hockey teams?
The Acme Anvil company, and all of their subsidiaries, such as the Acme
Batman Suit co., the Acme Catapult co., and the Acme Guided Missile co.
are very happy!  The advertising exposure is fantastic.

---

Scott Surgent
Tempe AZ

 
 
 

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Post by quil.. » Sun, 13 Oct 1996 04:00:00

Quote:



>> > the floor-level seats at one end are removed for hockey and the rink
>> > extends *underneath the upper deck*!  Between periods, I checked out the
>> > "$8.75 obstructed view seats" upstairs at that end: near the top,
>> > one can see only from the blue line out.

>> I sat in one of those obstructed view seats.  However, only a small
>> portion of the rink was out of sight; just a bit of one of the corners.

>Hmm.  I visited some friends in one of the corner sections, about 6 rows
>from the top.  You literally could not see in past the blue line.  I
>guess some seats are better than others.

>> I find it hard to believe the AWA was built only for basketball.

>I was here when it was built, and they said this over and over.  Perhaps
>it was just propaganda to justify the increase in Suns ticket prices.

>> They will either have to tear down the north end and rebuild
>> it, or get better video monitors so we can see the action in the low
>> corners.

>> Or, perhaps, rebuild Veterans Memorial and put the Coyotes there?
>> Parking and access would be a problem, I think.

>It won't be long before the whining about "lack of revenue" starts.
>Something will have to happen.  13,000 full-price seats won't support a team.

>sb

I lived in Phoenix for seven years.  What concerns me is what is likely
to happen to the ice surface in late April when the temps get in the
high 90s and May when they climb above 100.  We have enough trouble
keeping the surface good here in the warm months.  Have they made plans
for this out there?