Leafs vs Sharks Game 6 - Leafs win in OT

Leafs vs Sharks Game 6 - Leafs win in OT

Post by Ian Maio » Sat, 14 May 1994 12:32:07


    The Toronto Maple Leafs are still alive in their series against the
San Jose Sharks - Mike Gartner scored in OT to give the Leafs a 3-2 victory.

   Once again, the only thing predictable about this series is the
unpredicable.  This was not a blowout for either side - it was extremely even
all around.  Wendel Clark scored ~5min into the game to give the Leafs a 1-0
lead.  The Leafs dominated the first period.  In the second, the Sharks
dominated the play, and Larionov scored off a turnover with a blast from 30-ft
out to tie the game 1-1 after 2.  In the third, the teams took turns carrying
the play - Clark scored again to give the Leafs a lead.  Only 2:02 later,
Norton scored off the point for the Sharks.
   In OT, the Sharks dominated the first 5 minutes and had two glorious
opportunities to win.  Garpenlov broke in on the wing and blasted a rocket
which went over Potvin's shoulder, but drilled the crossbar.  A couple of
minutes later, the Sharks had a 3-on-2.  Ozolinsh got the pass from Garpenlov
right in front but decided to try to pass to the other wing to Larionov and
the Sharks lost the chance.  After that point, the Leafs started to get their
forechecking going, and Gartner banked one in off Irbe from the side of the
net after a turnover.
   So, the Leafs are still alive.  I'm not even going to try to predict what's
going to happen on Saturday.  But this win has got to give them a huge lift.
If the Sharks do win the series, I'm happy they'll have to do it in 7
because referee Bill Mccreary was absolutely *brutal* through the first two
periods.  There were missed calls on both sides, but the Leafs in particular
got the shaft terribly early.  Mark Osborne got a goaltender interference
penalty for the offense of being crosschecked behind twice into Irbe.  
Peter Zezel collided with Irbe about 15 feet outside the crease, and Irbe
hurled himself into the air to draw another penalty.  Makarov drew a penalty
by grabbing his face when the Leaf player (who was hacking at his arms) did
not have his stick about his waist.  On the Leafs side, Gartner lucked out in
the third when he clearly caught a Sharks player with a high stick (though
it looked accidental) but was not called.  Overall, pretty poor performance by
the officials.  I lost a little respect for Makarov and Irbe - the rather
blatant attempts to influence the refs don't have any part in that kind of
game, in my opinion.  Nevertheless, both teams played well and hopefully we'll
have another good game on Saturday.

Regards,
Ian

 
 
 

Leafs vs Sharks Game 6 - Leafs win in OT

Post by Gary Mart » Sat, 14 May 1994 22:35:15

       The Toronto Maple Leafs are still alive in their series against the
   San Jose Sharks - Mike Gartner scored in OT to give the Leafs a 3-2 victory.

So maybe we can have an end to all the Gartner bashing?

--
Gary A. Martin, Assistant Professor of Mathematics, UMass Dartmouth


 
 
 

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Post by Alnoor Kass » Sun, 15 May 1994 00:50:32

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: it looked accidental) but was not called.  Overall, pretty poor performance by
: the officials.  I lost a little respect for Makarov and Irbe - the rather
: blatant attempts to influence the refs don't have any part in that kind of
: game, in my opinion.  Nevertheless, both teams played well and hopefully we'll

And I suppose the Fabulous dive by Doug Gilmore that gave the leafs the
powerplay on which they scored their second goal was not intended to influence
the officials in the least.  Get real, players do whatever they have to in
order to win the game, and if that means taking a swan dive or clutching your
face when a stick swooshes by then so be it!  

With regards

    ak
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Leafs vs Sharks Game 6 - Leafs win in OT

Post by Sherri Nicho » Sun, 15 May 1994 01:29:15

Quote:

>got the shaft terribly early.  Mark Osborne got a goaltender interference
>penalty for the offense of being crosschecked behind twice into Irbe.  

I agree this was a bad call.

Quote:
>Peter Zezel collided with Irbe about 15 feet outside the crease, and Irbe
>hurled himself into the air to draw another penalty.

I think this was a marginal call.

Quote:
>  Makarov drew a penalty
>by grabbing his face when the Leaf player (who was hacking at his arms) did
>not have his stick about his waist.

Sorry, here I disagree completely.  On the replay I saw, the Leaf player
clearly got his stick in Makarov's face.  

Sherri Nichols

 
 
 

Leafs vs Sharks Game 6 - Leafs win in OT

Post by Wayne Sco » Sun, 15 May 1994 05:17:24

|>     The Toronto Maple Leafs are still alive in their series against the
|> San Jose Sharks - Mike Gartner scored in OT to give the Leafs a 3-2 victory.

|> I lost a little respect for Makarov and Irbe - the rather
|> blatant attempts to influence the refs don't have any part in that kind of
|> game, in my opinion.  Nevertheless, both teams played well and hopefully we'll
|> have another good game on Saturday.
|>
|> Regards,
|> Ian
|>

Then by now you must have NO respect left for the Leafs; they've been far more
active in the "blatant attempt to influence the refs" catagory.  In game 5 one
of the Leafs was down on the ice writhing in "pain" until he realized the ref
wasn't going to call anything, then he jumped up and joined in the start of
a fight. Every team I've watched in the playoffs this year has tried to
influence the officials.  

I do think that the officiating in game 6 was pretty bad, and the Sharks got
away with a few plays. But over the course of the series, I think the calls
have been fairly even.

Go Sharks!!!
Wayne Scott

 
 
 

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Post by Jonathan Dro » Sun, 15 May 1994 02:08:31

This comes from a Devils fan who thinks it makes no differene who wins
this series (I think Vancouver is going despite)-

The reffing was pretty poor wrt a couple of calls, but-

replay clearly showed the stick hitting Larionov in the face.  The
rules say you are responsible for your stick, period.  If it draws
*** or not, if its an accident or not, hitting someone in the face
is a stick foul.

Also, the rules state that you can not make contact with the
goaltender.  Period.  Once again, accidental or not, you just can't
hit him.  The call when Irbe was floundered (yes, he DID blow it out
of proportion, but he WAS tripped) was therefore good.  The other call
when Irbe was fouled (in the crease) looked ridiculous to me.  Didn't
Mccreary see the Shark pushing the Leaf into the net?  Guess not!

Last, was Gartner's hold in overtime that lead to the Shark goal (I
think it was Gartner).  He completely dumped the Shark as he tried to
clear the puck and deny a scoring change.  While overtime powerplays
are rare, there are some times when the ref just SHOULD call things.
That was one of them.  Maybe he let it go b/c SJ had put such good
pressure on before that, but that seems unfair.

Jonathan
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Post by Ian Maio » Mon, 16 May 1994 03:59:43

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>: it looked accidental) but was not called.  Overall, pretty poor performance by
>: the officials.  I lost a little respect for Makarov and Irbe - the rather
>: blatant attempts to influence the refs don't have any part in that kind of
>: game, in my opinion.  Nevertheless, both teams played well and hopefully we'll

>And I suppose the Fabulous dive by Doug Gilmore that gave the leafs the
>powerplay on which they scored their second goal was not intended to influence
>the officials in the least.  Get real, players do whatever they have to in
>order to win the game, and if that means taking a swan dive or clutching your
>face when a stick swooshes by then so be it!  

   Yes, I agree that many players 'embellish' fouls to draw penalties, and
Gilmour does do it.  But I thought Irbe and Makarov crossed the line a bit by
being so blatant about it.  Now, the replays I saw on the Makarov play did
not show the Leaf stick coming near his face.  Other people have stated that
they did see that.  From the replay I saw, it looked like Makarov was trying
to draw a high-sticking penalty from a hack on the stick.  That's why I
thought it was a poor play.  As for Irbe, there is a lot of difference between
his play and Gilmour's.  Doug definitely went down easily when he was tripped,
but he didn't do anything like hurling himself around in the air and throwing
up his arms like he'd been shot, as Irbe did.  
Regards,
Ian
 
 
 

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Post by Steven R. Pears » Wed, 18 May 1994 07:39:34


Quote:

> If the Sharks do win the series, I'm happy they'll have to do it in 7
> because referee Bill Mccreary was absolutely *brutal* through the first two
> periods.  There were missed calls on both sides, but the Leafs in particular
> got the shaft terribly early.  Mark Osborne got a goaltender interference
> penalty for the offense of being crosschecked behind twice into Irbe.

Yep, a bad call.

Quote:
> Peter Zezel collided with Irbe about 15 feet outside the crease, and Irbe
> hurled himself into the air to draw another penalty.

I didn't see it that way.  Zezel and Irbe had a collision of skates.  If
anybody could have avoided it, it was Zezel, who was swooping in for the
puck.  Irbe was more or less stopped at the time, having just played the
puck.  For whatever reason (he wasn't being checked), Zezel skated into
Irbe's skates, which toppled Irbe.  You must have been viewing the game
through blue leaf-shaped sunglasses to say Irbe "hurled himself into
the air."

Quote:
> I lost a little respect for Makarov and Irbe - the rather
> blatant attempts to influence the refs don't have any part in that kind of
> game, in my opinion.

Well, apparently they do, so long as the refs don't call everything by the
book, regardless of the game situation.  Don't overlook that your own Leafs
aren't such bad actors themselves.  (I keep hoping to see a ref call a
penalty for diving, but have never seen it, against anybody.)

I hear the Leafs asked the league to check into Irbe's alleged diving
behavior.  What the heck, so the guy knows how to take on for the team.
I'll admit, I've seen Irbe fall down easy, or stay down longer than would
seem necessary, at times this year.  But Irbe is far from the only player
to try to work the refs.  The above-mentioned calls in Game 6 don't appear
to be related to diving by Irbe.

If you want to investigate why the refs can't distinguish between diving
and being knocked down, be my guest, but why peg this to one certain
player?
Everyone tries to gain as much advantage as they can within the rules as
enforced.

-steve p.

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Post by Steven R. Pears » Wed, 18 May 1994 08:08:37


Quote:

> Last, was Gartner's hold in overtime that lead to the Shark goal (I
> think it was Gartner).  He completely dumped the Shark as he tried to
> clear the puck and deny a scoring change.  While overtime powerplays
> are rare, there are some times when the ref just SHOULD call things.
> That was one of them.  Maybe he let it go b/c SJ had put such good
> pressure on before that, but that seems unfair.

In case the list is not long enough...can you imagine the outcry if
Zezel (sp?) had scored on his breakaway.  You know, the one he got
after hooking down Ellick just outside the Sharks' blue line?  It was
one of those hooks that the refs just can't seem to call, a "slow"
hook (repeated tugging with the stick that eventually brings the player
to the ice, but not a swift yank-down).  Zezel then broke in on Irbe
and lost control of the puck in mid-deke (Irbe barely saved it with an
outstretched skate).

-steve p.

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Post by Eric S. McDani » Wed, 18 May 1994 09:23:11



Quote:

>If you want to investigate why the refs can't distinguish between diving
>and being knocked down, be my guest, but why peg this to one certain
>player?
>Everyone tries to gain as much advantage as they can within the rules as
>enforced.

And consider that taking a dive is not without risks.  The player who
dives and _fails_ to draw the penalty (the refs sometimes do distinguish)
effectively takes himself out of the play for a few seconds -- especially
dangerous if the goalie does it.