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IMPORTANT: Fans Please Read - FAN PROTEST SUGGESTION

Post by Keith Wand » Sun, 02 Oct 1994 02:28:26


Well, as everyone says - this sucks. So, the one party
that suffers the most in all this is us the fans. The
internet has a great number of hockey fans on it. Why don't
we suggest a protest of our own? Everything seems to be
related to money these days and that seems to be what
concerns the owners the most so why not hit their
pocket books a little so that they take notice? Let's
spread the word and protest by not buying from the concessions
at the first x number of games at each rink. We could spread
the word via internet, notify a few news sources and get it
publicized and then we'd get the ball rolling. I just called
the NHL office and the guy said he hadn't heard about that idea
from anyone and he was kind of taken aback by it.
What do poeple think about this?

Keith

I say we do it and make a statement!!!!

 
 
 

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Post by Michael McLar » Mon, 03 Oct 1994 10:51:03

: we suggest a protest of our own? Everything seems to be
: related to money these days and that seems to be what
: concerns the owners the most so why not hit their
: pocket books a little so that they take notice? Let's
: spread the word and protest by not buying from the concessions
: at the first x number of games at each rink. We could spread

        This is a great idea in some arenas, but...  If I do that in the
Pacific Colliseum that doesn't hurt the Canucks at all - they don't own
the building and they don't get any cut of the concessions.  I suspect
this might be the case in a few other publicly owned buildings around the
league.

/\\ike

 
 
 

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Post by R marsh7 » Mon, 03 Oct 1994 11:04:04

I said on the local level, in the Bay Area, and I say it nationally here.
This does nothing but hurt the vendors who carry around the product. They
only make about 10% of the price you pay as it is. We shouldn't take away
what little they get because their employers pull some BS like this
lockout.

Also remember that 10 home games is 1/4 of all home games during the
regular season. Think about possibly losing 1.4 of your salary during that
period of time. Makes it kinda *** paying the bills. Doesn't it. I
wish I could come up with an alternative, but I cannot. However, I think
this is the wrong idea, Sorry Keith.

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Post by Artur Roytbu » Tue, 04 Oct 1994 05:27:21

Quote:

>Well, as everyone says - this sucks. So, the one party
>that suffers the most in all this is us the fans. The
>internet has a great number of hockey fans on it. Why don't
>we suggest a protest of our own? Everything seems to be
>related to money these days and that seems to be what
>concerns the owners the most so why not hit their
>pocket books a little so that they take notice? Let's
>spread the word and protest by not buying from the concessions
>at the first x number of games at each rink. We could spread
>the word via internet, notify a few news sources and get it
>publicized and then we'd get the ball rolling. I just called
>the NHL office and the guy said he hadn't heard about that idea
>from anyone and he was kind of taken aback by it.
>What do poeple think about this?

>Keith

>I say we do it and make a statement!!!!

I think this idea could work if at least 50% of the fans attending the
games were on the internet. In that case, your message could be easily
spread and implementd if accepted by majority. I thought about the same
thing while being frustrated on the Saturday night without hockey, but
this is just too big of a thing to get rolling just through internet.
If it was done though, I think it would be an excellent statement to all
professional sports.

-Artur
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Post by John Bradl » Tue, 04 Oct 1994 06:23:44

   I said on the local level, in the Bay Area, and I say it nationally here.
   This does nothing but hurt the vendors who carry around the product. They
   only make about 10% of the price you pay as it is. We shouldn't take away
   what little they get because their employers pull some BS like this
   lockout.

As a former Yankee Stadium vendor who was hurt by the '81 strike, I share
your concern. However, not all vendors work on commission. In New York,
the concession stand workers were salaried and vendors selling in the seats
were on commission. Perhaps, this boycott could be done in a way to minimize
damage. Of course, reduced concession stand sales would cause the stands
to be closed.

Yet, the basic idea is good. There must be a way to impact the teams'
supplemental income.

John Bradley

 
 
 

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Post by Eric A. Seid » Tue, 04 Oct 1994 01:39:12

A fine idea. Really. (I've also sent a post-lockout flame letter to Garry
Butthead via FedEx since I've had no luck with the Fax number posted here)

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Post by FLOUNDERING IN A QUANTUM SEA. » Tue, 04 Oct 1994 00:11:00

        How's this for a suggestion.  Buy a ticket to your team's first home
game and then set up a picket line in front of the gates, protesting shabby
treatment by the NHL and ask the other ticket holders to not cross.  Can you
just imagine the effect on the NHL to play to empty houses, if even for only
one game per team?

        I can hear Tom Larscheid now.  "And they've just announce the
attendance for tonight, jus over 16 thousand.  That must be about one thousand
per fan that actually showed up."

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Post by NEMA » Tue, 04 Oct 1994 14:25:03


Quote:
A. Seiden) writes:

:I've also sent a post-lockout flame letter to Garry
:Butthead via FedEx since I've had no luck with the Fax number posted
:here.

Try this number, (212) 789-2111.  Not entirely sure it's the correct one,
for some reason those good sports at the NHL seem to be disconnecting
their regular fax lines.  ; )

Nemain
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Post by Roland L. Behun » Tue, 04 Oct 1994 23:55:50

A boycott is a good idea, but the consessions just hurts your city, arena,
or local tax base (for the most part unless the team owns the arena.)

However, we could have a season long boycott of the merchandise. Don't buy
hockey cards, jerseys, sweaters, tshrits, hockey pucks, etc all season.

This hurts both the players and the owners as some of the merchandise
revenue goes to the NHLPA and some goes to the owners.  In any labor
disagreement both sides are at fault somewhat.

This also means we don't miss out on the games, and have a good size
impact on the problem.

roland

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Post by Jim Mean » Wed, 05 Oct 1994 03:26:30


Quote:

>A fine idea. Really. (I've also sent a post-lockout flame letter to Garry
>Butthead via FedEx since I've had no luck with the Fax number posted
here)

>        -- Eric

A fax number in the NHL PR dept is (212)789-2080. It was still operating
as of 11:15 PDT today.
 
 
 

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Post by Bryon Th » Wed, 05 Oct 1994 03:29:55



Quote:

>A boycott is a good idea, but the consessions just hurts your city, arena,
>or local tax base (for the most part unless the team owns the arena.)

>However, we could have a season long boycott of the merchandise. Don't buy
>hockey cards, jerseys, sweaters, tshrits, hockey pucks, etc all season.

>This hurts both the players and the owners as some of the merchandise
>revenue goes to the NHLPA and some goes to the owners.  In any labor
>disagreement both sides are at fault somewhat.

>This also means we don't miss out on the games, and have a good size
>impact on the problem.

  Unfortunately, only a large-scale boycott would have any effect whatsoever,
and there is no one, or no organization, that seems willing to organize such
an event.  There were a couple of people who tried to drum up support for a
baseball boycott before the strike began, but they weren't successful.  The
problem is that there are just too many fans who LOVE the games, and want to
support their favourite teams, buy their junk, etc.

  I hate the lockout with a passion.  I love hockey and I hate the idea that
I may not be able to watch it this year.  What I do know, though, is that the
second it comes back on I'll be soaking in as much of it as I normally do.

  The most effective way to display your dissatisfaction with the labour
problems, IMO, is to write letters to Bettman, Goodenow, Mike Gartner, players
on your favourite team etc.   It probably won't sway them in their hard-line
stances, but it will at least ensure that they realize that we are out here
to.

  Bryon Thur

 
 
 

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Post by Brett Ba » Fri, 07 Oct 1994 01:13:32


Quote:

> Well, as everyone says - this sucks. So, the one party
> that suffers the most in all this is us the fans. The
> internet has a great number of hockey fans on it. Why don't
> we suggest a protest of our own? Everything seems to be
> related to money these days and that seems to be what
> concerns the owners the most so why not hit their
> pocket books a little so that they take notice? Let's
> spread the word and protest by not buying from the concessions
> at the first x number of games at each rink. We could spread
> the word via internet, notify a few news sources and get it
> publicized and then we'd get the ball rolling. I just called
> the NHL office and the guy said he hadn't heard about that idea
> from anyone and he was kind of taken aback by it.
> What do poeple think about this?

> Keith

> I say we do it and make a statement!!!!

Hell, lets not even go to games.  Lerts start watching minor league games  
and such.  I love paying 5 bucks to sit rinkside of the Erie panthers. And  
i dont have to pay parking, and I don't have to drive far, and I don't  
have to protect my girlfriend from a bucnh of drunks (like I ususally see  
at devils games.)

Brett Ball a Rangers fan in Pens country.

 
 
 

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Post by Tim Simmo » Wed, 12 Oct 1994 01:31:39

Regarding boycotting concession sales

Quote:

>Yet, the basic idea is good. There must be a way to impact the teams'
>supplemental income.

>John Bradley


I don't know about other teams, but  in the case of the Sharks
they make no money from concession sales directly.  ARA services,
a very large nation wide company, rents the arena space from the Sharks
, so the only income the Sharks get it the rent for the spce.  Even
if ARA didn't make a dime from fodd sales the Sharks would still
collect the rent.

Boycotting concessions would only hurt ARA and have no effect on the
Sharks (I assume other clubs have similar arrangements)

Boycotting ARA is not a bad idea though, their proces are outrageous.
Beer went up from $4 to $5 this year!!

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Post by Artur Roytbu » Wed, 12 Oct 1994 23:04:39

Quote:

>Regarding boycotting concession sales

>>Yet, the basic idea is good. There must be a way to impact the teams'
>>supplemental income.

>>John Bradley

>I don't know about other teams, but  in the case of the Sharks
>they make no money from concession sales directly.  ARA services,
>a very large nation wide company, rents the arena space from the Sharks
>, so the only income the Sharks get it the rent for the spce.  Even
>if ARA didn't make a dime from fodd sales the Sharks would still
>collect the rent.

>Boycotting concessions would only hurt ARA and have no effect on the
>Sharks (I assume other clubs have similar arrangements)

>Boycotting ARA is not a bad idea though, their proces are outrageous.
>Beer went up from $4 to $5 this year!!

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$5 per beer???????????????? Wow, talking about steep. In Winnipeg Arena
you pay $3.50 per beer, and the cheapest tickets are $11 (and these are
Canadian funds). We never learn to appreciate what we've got, will we?
:-)

-Artur

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>Well, as everyone says - this sucks. So, the one party
>that suffers the most in all this is us the fans. The
>internet has a great number of hockey fans on it. Why don't
>we suggest a protest of our own? Everything seems to be
>related to money these days and that seems to be what
>concerns the owners the most so why not hit their
>pocket books a little so that they take notice? Let's
>spread the word and protest by not buying from the concessions
>at the first x number of games at each rink. We could spread
>the word via internet, notify a few news sources and get it
>publicized and then we'd get the ball rolling. I just called
>the NHL office and the guy said he hadn't heard about that idea
>from anyone and he was kind of taken aback by it.
>What do poeple think about this?
>Keith
>I say we do it and make a statement!!!!

JNF>> Forget the concessions, Protest by boycotting the arenas, let's not
JNF>> attend the first 10 home games of every team !!!!!
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