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Post by Paul Matthe » Thu, 18 Sep 1997 04:00:00


On Wed, 17 Sep 1997 09:43:57 +0100, Mr P Halliwell

Quote:

>PROTEST AT TESCO HQ AND 10 DOWNING STREET - THURSDAY 18th SEPT

Pray tell, what do you expect to acheive by going to the PM? have you
checked if he will be in?

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Post by Paul Matthe » Fri, 19 Sep 1997 04:00:00

On Wed, 17 Sep 1997 12:25:56 +0100, Mr P Halliwell

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>We wrote to Tony Blair and he did agree to meet with us.
>Unfortunatly he has had to go to Wales.

So once again you plan something badly. The Welsh referendum was well
known about in advance. I would be amazed if Prescott was not in Wales as
well.

Quote:
>We hope to get more national publicity and media coverage and it just
>ties in with going to Tesco HQ in Waltham all in one day trip.
>Poeople have taken time off work to go and it makes sense to do this
>all in one day.

So all you want is publicity? how do you actually plan to acheive
anything? be warned that if Tesco feel you are trying to do their image
harm, they are likely to start checking up on you lot, and looking for
anything that they can use to discredit you, and their media men will
have more experience than yours.

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Post by Paul Matthe » Fri, 19 Sep 1997 04:00:00

On Thu, 18 Sep 1997 11:28:11 +0100, Mr P Halliwell

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>> So once again you plan something badly. The Welsh referendum was well
>> known about in advance. I would be amazed if Prescott was not in Wales as
>> well.

>Don't be so funny about it all Paul.
>The trip was well planned and Mr Blair agreed to meet us.
>If you bothered to read my info you would have noticed that fact.
>He was advised to change his plans earlier this week and go to Wales
>We telephoned and setup and alternate person to meet with.
>Please don't just argue to be awkward Paul.

Touchy. I would have thought it would be ***y obvious tht Tony Blair
would have his mind on other things this week. The referenda in Scotland
and wales are pretty big issues.

Quote:
>We are not trying to discredit Tesco, just inform them and ask for some
>action on the promises they made to us last time.
>Read mt WSAC news pages to find out more Paul.  

Are you SURE they will not see it as an attempt to discredit them. If I
was on the board and aware of your actions, I would be keeping a VERY
close eye on what you did. The moment you start saying publicly that they
are breaking promises or whatever you want to say, they will be defending
it.

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>Tesco will find nothing on our committee to discredit us
>personally or the way in wich our campaign has been run.  So we have no
>worries there.

Are you _sure_ that everyone is whiter than white? that they will not
know of the secrecy that the SAG have displayed?

Quote:
>If you really fo care Paul and are bothered please take the time to
>read all the info on my site and from anywhere else you wish.  I try
>to keep it updated, short and informative as possible for all to read.

If you are publicising info, publicise it. don't put bits here and bits
there that complain about other people not reading all the info. your
page takes an age to download (Too many graphics). There is not exactly
lots of info there -

        "This protest is still on. If anyone wants to come along please
        turn up at Central Park. The coach will leave Central Park car
        park at 7am. The cost will be approx 7 pounds each assuming we
        fill a 50 seater coach. The group will be taking the petition and

        a specil video to show at Tesco and Downing street.

Is the sum total info on the downing street trip. Not a lot about what
you are saying. All your page is is propaganda for your side. what the
rest of us want is simple facts

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Post by Piema » Fri, 19 Sep 1997 04:00:00



Quote:
> On Wed, 17 Sep 1997 12:25:56 +0100, Mr P Halliwell

> So all you want is publicity? how do you actually plan to acheive
> anything? be warned that if Tesco feel you are trying to do their image
> harm, they are likely to start checking up on you lot, and looking for
> anything that they can use to discredit you, and their media men will
> have more experience than yours.

And risk even more bad publicity for themselves, by having to resort to
dirty tactics. I think not.
IMO SAG have not lied, cheated or done anything untoward in the whole
process. Unlike some I can name, but most people on here will know them
already.
There media men may be more experienced but they also cost more money whic
come out of the Tesco pockets. Let them delve we aint done any thing wrong
unless telling the truth has become illegal.

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Post by Paul Matthe » Sat, 20 Sep 1997 04:00:00

On Thu, 18 Sep 1997 16:12:51 +0100, Mr P Halliwell

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>Try keeping up to date Paul.  We will be saying all that we have so far.
>It's all on the web page you have seen and on the 2nd WEB page there.

>I change and update the info often and if you would have read the
>pages before todays

So you are now complaining that I have not read the info that you have
removed? GET REAL.

Quote:
>I have taken to heart all the comments about not keeping secrets and
>there are none
>now.  You have all the facts I know and you can read all the papers and RL info
>like I can.  So you then will have all the facts.

Then post the facts here. When they are up om your pages, leave them
there. I see no point in checking your pages if you are likely to have
removed the info.

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Post by Paul Matthe » Sat, 20 Sep 1997 04:00:00


Quote:
>And risk even more bad publicity for themselves, by having to resort to
>dirty tactics. I think not.

I doubt they would have to resort to dirty tactics.

Quote:
>IMO SAG have not lied, cheated or done anything untoward in the whole
>process. Unlike some I can name, but most people on here will know them
>already.

There is one big mistake the SAG have made for credibility. They are
putting themselves forwards as the voice of the fans. I have seen no
survey to find out what the supporters as a whole actually want. I have
seen no surveys at the gates soliciting supporters opinion. They are a
minority pressure group who want to save central park. That appears to be
their sole aim.

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Post by Mr P Halliwel » Mon, 22 Sep 1997 04:00:00



Quote:
> >Try keeping up to date Paul.  We will be saying all that we have so far.
> >It's all on the web page you have seen and on the 2nd WEB page there.

> >I change and update the info often and if you would have read the
> >pages before todays
> So you are now complaining that I have not read the info that you have
> removed? GET REAL.

Now you're being very silly Pual.

Quote:
> >I have taken to heart all the comments about not keeping secrets and
> >there are none
> >now.  You have all the facts I know and you can read all the
papers and RL info
> >like I can.  So you then will have all the facts.
> Then post the facts here. When they are up om your pages, leave them
> there. I see no point in checking your pages if you are likely to have
> removed the info.

I inform the NG everytime there is an update. And sometimes post a small
article or two as I don't want to swamp the Ng with info.

The web page is up-to-date and will remain so.
Old info will be archives onto other pages, as I have done already.
Or removed/updated.  Don't blame me if you miss the updates.
If you wer really concerned you would chekc the pages oftern.
Paul I know you are just arguing for the sake of it now
and I don't see the point.  

It's my ball and you're not playing anymore...;-)

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Post by Mr P Halliwel » Mon, 22 Sep 1997 04:00:00



Quote:
> There is one big mistake the SAG have made for credibility. They are
> putting themselves forwards as the voice of the fans. I have seen no
> survey to find out what the supporters as a whole actually want. I have
> seen no surveys at the gates soliciting supporters opinion. They are a
> minority pressure group who want to save central park. That appears to be
> their sole aim.

Wer have time and time agian this season invited fans to join us in our
action.  And that includes you Paul.  And only 200 have the time and
dedication to join the group.  We have a petition of nearly 50,000
signatures of fans that want to save Central Park and agree with us
bit eithyer cannot or won't dedicate time and effort top our
campaign.  Any Wigan MBC councellors and town planners are behind
us and agree that Wigan RLFC belongs at CP, although one or two did
say they would still be happy if it went to Robin park.
But NONE said Wigan should go to Horwich.

So I invite any Wigan fans who wish to join us to come to the next
meeting at the Riverside and sign up.  To join in the protests
advertised on my WEB site and at CP after the games.

To write letters to the coulcellors and Wigan RLFC.
To write to the localo MP and Tony Bloair.
To write to Tesco and the press.

Anything done in support is great.  But anyone who just wants
to argue and waste tiem like Paul should no attend.

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Post by Mr P Halliwel » Tue, 23 Sep 1997 04:00:00



Quote:
> Look who's talking. All I ask is that info be posted HERE. I do not use
> the web much, and certainly do not want to bother with graphics heavy
> pages.

Fair Do's Paul. I stopped posting the info here because people
complained about it.  Now if you want the info I will post
just the essemtials when I can.  

And you would be welcome to air your views at any SAG meeting.
As anyone is welcome.  Even the shareholders and John Martin
turn up sometimes.  Well John is letting us use the riverside
club for free so he can turn up whenever he wants.  And he is
very welcome.

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Post by Mr P Halliwel » Tue, 23 Sep 1997 04:00:00



Quote:
> On Mon, 22 Sep 1997 10:23:08 +0100, Mr P Halliwell

> >And you would be welcome to air your views at any SAG meeting.
> but you said that you did not want anyone argumentative there. my views
> on the future of Wigan RL are diametrically opposed to those put forward
> by yourself as those of the SAG, and thus by definition my views would be
> argumentative.

Yes Paul.  But sometimes you have just argued for arguings sake.
I have tried to pick out the useful bits and reply.

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Post by Paul Matthe » Tue, 23 Sep 1997 04:00:00

On Mon, 22 Sep 1997 10:23:08 +0100, Mr P Halliwell

Quote:

>And you would be welcome to air your views at any SAG meeting.

but you said that you did not want anyone argumentative there. my views
on the future of Wigan RL are diametrically opposed to those put forward
by yourself as those of the SAG, and thus by definition my views would be
argumentative.

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Post by Paul Matthe » Tue, 23 Sep 1997 04:00:00

On Mon, 22 Sep 1997 11:54:02 +0100, Mr P Halliwell

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>Yes Paul.  But sometimes you have just argued for arguings sake.
>I have tried to pick out the useful bits and reply.

I have yet to argue for arguments' sake. I think Vibes will agree that
you do not always directly answer questions.

Paul Matthews
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