Down & Out in Paris & 'Uddersfield

Down & Out in Paris & 'Uddersfield

Post by John Drak » Fri, 07 Nov 1997 04:00:00


Rugby League was born in Huddersfield 102 years ago.

Isn't it about time it plucked up the courage to leave home?

Just a thought.

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Post by M.A. Jamies » Sat, 08 Nov 1997 04:00:00



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>Rugby League was born in Huddersfield 102 years ago.

>Isn't it about time it plucked up the courage to leave home?

>Just a thought.

>John

Why?

 
 
 

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Post by M.A. Jamies » Tue, 11 Nov 1997 04:00:00



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>> >Rugby League was born in Huddersfield 102 years ago.

>> >Isn't it about time it plucked up the courage to leave home?

>> >Just a thought.

>> >John

>> Why?

>Are you a member of the RL Board of Directors, by any chance?

>John

No, I'm not, but I think your the sorta bloke, who just likes to whinge
about anything, you were probably anti-SL and now anti-Huddersfield.  We
were included because we have the best ground, and in trying to show the
game to be glamourous, Sky doesn't want to show shite grounds like Central
Park or Wheldon Road.

Matt a SL Giant

 
 
 

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Post by John Drak » Tue, 11 Nov 1997 04:00:00


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>>> >Rugby League was born in Huddersfield 102 years ago.

>>> >Isn't it about time it plucked up the courage to leave home?

>>> >Just a thought.

>>> >John

>>> Why?

>>Are you a member of the RL Board of Directors, by any chance?

>>John

>No, I'm not, but I think your the sorta bloke, who just likes to whinge
>about anything, you were probably anti-SL and now anti-Huddersfield.  We
>were included because we have the best ground, and in trying to show the
>game to be glamourous, Sky doesn't want to show shite grounds like Central
>Park or Wheldon Road.

>Matt a SL Giant

Oh for Gods sake! How can being in favour of Paris keeping their place in
SL, as I am, be construed by *anyone* as being anti-SL??? Surely that was
the point of setting up a European Super League in the first place?

For the record...

I was in favour of the creation of the European SL in 1995 (and have the
scars to prove it).

I was in favour of the fast-tracking of Paris and London.

I wasnt keen on the idea of summer rugby but have grown to love it, to the
point of being unable to imagine having to turn out in winter again.

I support the idea of fast-tracking teams from Wales, Scotland and Ireland
and non traditional RL areas in England to aid the expansion and development
of Rugby League. I always have, even before the RFL thought of it, and I
still would even if it was at the expense of my own local team. Thats
because I believe the promotion and development of the game of Rugby League
is more important than *any* individual club. I wish those who control the
game felt the same way. Their decisions prove that they do not.

I support the concept of a franchised and regionally based SL, to serve as a
promotional flagship for the game of Rugby League in Europe. I also support
the maintenance and development of a viable subsidiary competition outside
SL.

I support the concept of a single unified governing body for Rugby League in
the UK.

I have campaigned long and hard, via the Rugby League Supporters Association
(which I helped to found in 1990) for the establishment of publicly declared
minimum standards charter, covering all areas of professional Rugby League,
including ground facilities. See RLSA website for more details at
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/rlsa_uk

I oppose the disbanding of Paris after only two seasons and their
replacement by another club from West Yorkshire (doesnt matter which one)
because I see it as an abandonment of the original ideals on which the SL
was created, and at the same time a hammer blow to the fragile credibility
of Rugby League in France.

In my view, if the RFL were desperate to have Huddersfield in SL, then it
should have been at the expense of one of the other West Yorkshire based SL
teams. How that for radical!!

The above looks like a fairly positive agenda to me. If Im often critical
of the RFL and its constituent clubs (and I am) then thats because I
believe they deserve it, for failing time and again to do anything to
promote, develop and expand the game of Rugby League in or beyond the
English counties of its birth.

Finally, and pedantically, Huddersfield dont have the best ground in the
game. Paris do. Much good it did their hopes of remaining in SL. This more
than anything illustrates the complete inconsistency of the RFLs current
position on membership of the SL. They are making it up as they go along,
and reducing the game to a laughing stock in the process, and as a Rugby
League fan, that makes me sick.

Thankyou and goodnight.

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Post by PGWalk » Wed, 12 Nov 1997 04:00:00

John Drake wrote

Quote:
>For the record...

...the whole lot snipped!

Quote:

>Thankyou and goodnight.

That lot just about sums up my own position and I suspect quite a lot of other
 people as well.

Keep putting forward those views John, they'll listen one day!

Paul Walker

 
 
 

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Post by M.A. Jamies » Thu, 13 Nov 1997 04:00:00



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>>>> >Rugby League was born in Huddersfield 102 years ago.

>>>> >Isn't it about time it plucked up the courage to leave home?

>>>> >Just a thought.

>>>> >John

>>>> Why?

>>>Are you a member of the RL Board of Directors, by any chance?

>>>John

>>No, I'm not, but I think your the sorta bloke, who just likes to whinge
>>about anything, you were probably anti-SL and now anti-Huddersfield.  We
>>were included because we have the best ground, and in trying to show the
>>game to be glamourous, Sky doesn't want to show shite grounds like
Central
>>Park or Wheldon Road.

>>Matt a SL Giant

>Oh for Gods sake! How can being in favour of Paris keeping their place in
>SL, as I am, be construed by *anyone* as being anti-SL??? Surely that was
>the point of setting up a European Super League in the first place?

>For the record...

>I was in favour of the creation of the European SL in 1995 (and have the
>scars to prove it).

>I was in favour of the fast-tracking of Paris and London.

>I wasnt keen on the idea of summer rugby but have grown to love it, to
the
>point of being unable to imagine having to turn out in winter again.

>I support the idea of fast-tracking teams from Wales, Scotland and Ireland
>and non traditional RL areas in England to aid the expansion and
development
>of Rugby League. I always have, even before the RFL thought of it, and I
>still would even if it was at the expense of my own local team. Thats
>because I believe the promotion and development of the game of Rugby
League
>is more important than *any* individual club. I wish those who control the
>game felt the same way. Their decisions prove that they do not.

>I support the concept of a franchised and regionally based SL, to serve as

a

I'm sorry if I upset you there.  But what really annoys me is that people
seem to be having a go at Huddersfield because Paris were kicked out.  It
is not Huddersfields fault, the club at lest as much as most, as changed
and took on board the new concepts of summer rugby, we deserve our chance,
maybe not at the cost of Paris.  But I do think a year break is good for a
club that can't survive without serious handouts from the RL.  It gives
Paris a chance to organise in other areas, instead of having to find a
bunch of players to fight relagation all the time.  When/if Paris return.
there will probably be no relagation, so giving them a chance to bring in
French players, to create a better French national side.  Their national
side is the key to success in France, and if Paris don't/can't pick French
men in their side then, the National side isn't going to get any better.

Matt a SL Giant.

 
 
 

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Post by John Drak » Thu, 13 Nov 1997 04:00:00

But what really annoys me is that people

Quote:
>seem to be having a go at Huddersfield because Paris were kicked out.  It
>is not Huddersfields fault, the club at lest as much as most, as changed
>and took on board the new concepts of summer rugby, we deserve our chance,
>maybe not at the cost of Paris.  But I do think a year break is good for a
>club that can't survive without serious handouts from the RL.

I doubt any of the RFL's member clubs could survive without handouts from
the RFL and the SL contract money. Such criteria could be used to get rid of
most of the existing SL clubs, but only Paris have actually been disbanded.
That stinks.

  It gives

Quote:
>Paris a chance to organise in other areas, instead of having to find a
>bunch of players to fight relagation all the time.  When/if Paris return.
>there will probably be no relagation, so giving them a chance to bring in
>French players, to create a better French national side.  Their national
>side is the key to success in France, and if Paris don't/can't pick French
>men in their side then, the National side isn't going to get any better.

If the RFL were prepared to issue a public guarantee that Paris would be
readmitted to SL in 1999, and offer some kind of financial support to the
French Federation in order to ensure that they were able to get things up
and running in time, then I'd be more inclined to swallow their reasons for
leaving them out in 1998. But they haven't done that, and don't look likely
to. So, with only a vague hope to cling to, no SL money to use and the
game's credibility already damaged by the cessation of the existing PSG
operation, how can the French Federation go about building up a viable
administration and playing squad for a club in Paris, or elsewhere, to make
a successful bid for a place in SL in 12 months time? They don't have the
resources to do it on their own, and potential sponsors are unlikely to
throw money at them after what has happened in the past few weeks.

It's tough on Huddersfield that they are copping some of the flak for what
the RFL has chosen to do, but the symbolism of removing the only SL club in
continental Europe and replacing them with yet another club from West
Yorkshire, no matter how deserving, is just so depressing as to make it
inevitable. It may not be fair, but then, neither was dumping Paris from the
SL when they had avoided relegation on the field of play.

John
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