On Thu, 18 Feb 1999 21:22:36 -0000, "John Drake"
>Hey, good idea! That would mean Bradford were the only SL team left in the
>comp right now ;-)
>But seriously folks...I think too much is being made of the 92-0 result of
>Bulls v Workington. Bradford played a full strength team that day, who were
>out to prove a point to a few people after last season's disappointments.
>Meanwhile, Workington are a team in transition. They had lost a few key
>players with injury the week before in their first NFP game, they were
>disrupted by the non arrival of Josh White from Australia, and they had a
>player sent off in the 18th minute for tripping, thus had to play the bulk
>of the game with 12 men. All of this combined had to have an effect on the
>final scoreline, which is hardly a regular occurence.
So what do you think it would have been with all Workington at full
strength. 50, 60 or 70 nil? I don't think they would have kept it
down to a 50 point difference and don't forget it was not just
Bradford that ran riot. Huddersfield and Warrington, two teams who
last season were not exactly top drawer showed the gap between the top
clubs and the rest is growing far wider than it has ever been.
>There have been worse results than this in the history of the Cup (didn't
>Saints once put 100+ past Carlisle, and Wigan ninety plus over Highfield?)
>but IMO the magic still remains.
One offs, every now and again. IMO these type of results will become
the norm from now on.
>I know it is not a pleasant memory for Wigan fans, but last years final was
>a classic of its kind, in terms of the "underdog" beating the odds, which is
>where the "magic" of knockout football ultimately comes from.
There are underdogs and there are no hopers. I think we have to say
that all the sides outside SL now fall into the latter category given
the evidence of the fourth round where even Fev let in 50 and Hunslet
still could not stop a below par Saints from putting 40 past them.
Don't forget the fourth round represents the first competitive game
for the SL sides so how would they go when they are up to speed?
>For all the SCCC is effectively a pre-season comp these days, it still
>generates plenty of passion amongst fans and players alike. Just look at the
>uproar on the NG this week over the Bradford/Wakefield tie...if no one cared
>about this comp anymore, there would not have been such a heated exchange on
>the rights and wrongs of that subject, surely ;-)
The CC is the most well known of RL competitions outside the normal Rl
sphere. It has always had a similar romance to the FA Cup in football
and clearly a competition which has that romance is a valuable asset
to any sport.
The point I am making is that will the ever increasing standards of SL
we seem to be heading to a competition where that romance will die due
to absurd mismatches being the norm rather than the exception.
>I don't think there's anything wrong with the Challenge Cup now that hasn't
>been wrong with it since it was created. There will always be mis-matches,
True there have always been mismatches but to say the cup is the same
in this area now as it was just a few years ago is IMO not correct.
>it's inevitable, but there will also be upsets along the way,
Not caused by Div1 v SL there won't.
> and to be
>honest, I can't think of any other way of organising the comp that would not
>involve destroying the e***ment of hearing those "magic" words.....
>Gentlemen, the draw!
You may be correct that any alteration would ruin it but will it not
die a death of its own if something is not done? Will it just end up
as a pre-season run out as the similar competition is in Australia?
I really hope is does not. Regulars know my opinion on the GF playoff
system v the Championship and it seems to me we could be hastening the
decline of the status of the CC if cricket scores become the normal
way of things.
Wigan Warriors RLFC - 1998 Super League Champions
(Oh - and Grand Final winners as well)
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