"One up, one down" rule

"One up, one down" rule

Post by GRMITC » Sun, 04 Aug 1996 04:00:00


Question 1. If Paris St Germain had lost to London Broncos (as they should
have done, I am sure the match was a set up) and ended up bottom of Super
League, would Maurice Lindsay et al have allowed them to be relegated?

Question 2. If Workington Town end up bottom of Super League, will Maurice
Lindsay et al allow them to be relegated?

What do you think?

 
 
 

"One up, one down" rule

Post by WiganRLf » Tue, 06 Aug 1996 04:00:00


writes:

Quote:
>Question 1. If Paris St Germain had lost to London Broncos (as they
should
>have done, I am sure the match was a set up) and ended up bottom of Super
>League, would Maurice Lindsay et al have allowed them to be relegated?

Don't know, but it looks as though he will be spared the embarrassment of
having to  make that decision.

Quote:
>Question 2. If Workington Town end up bottom of Super League, will
Maurice
>Lindsay et al allow them to be relegated?

I don't think he dare keep them up, however why Cumbria does not warrant
an SL team when, say, South Wales does, I don't know.

Quote:
>What do you think?

Dave

Wigan RLFC - Simply the Best

 
 
 

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Post by Nick Thomps » Tue, 06 Aug 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

>Question 1. If Paris St Germain had lost to London Broncos (as they should
>have done, I am sure the match was a set up) and ended up bottom of Super
>League, would Maurice Lindsay et al have allowed them to be relegated?

<snip>

Quote:
>What do you think?

I think you should stop watching the X-Files...

 
 
 

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Post by Talcu » Tue, 06 Aug 1996 04:00:00



Quote:

>writes:

>>Question 1. If Paris St Germain had lost to London Broncos (as they
>should
>>have done, I am sure the match was a set up) and ended up bottom of Super
>>League, would Maurice Lindsay et al have allowed them to be relegated?

>Don't know, but it looks as though he will be spared the embarrassment of
>having to  make that decision.

>>Question 2. If Workington Town end up bottom of Super League, will
>Maurice
>>Lindsay et al allow them to be relegated?

>I don't think he dare keep them up, however why Cumbria does not warrant
>an SL team when, say, South Wales does, I don't know.

>>What do you think?

>Dave

>Wigan RLFC - Simply the Best

The Paris v London result smelt, of complacency not contrivance. I'm not
saying we are above such things just in some senses we are fighting for
survival and those points would have gone a long way to ensuring us
fourth spot.

--
Talcum

 
 
 

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Post by Adam Lawrenc » Wed, 07 Aug 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

>>Question 2. If Workington Town end up bottom of Super League, will
>Maurice
>>Lindsay et al allow them to be relegated?

>I don't think he dare keep them up, however why Cumbria does not warrant
>an SL team when, say, South Wales does, I don't know.

>>What do you think?

Cumbria clearly does warrant an SL team, but I guess it's up to the
Cumbrians to put their house in order sufficiently to claim it.

I wouldn't mind betting that Workington will be back - there's too much
junior talent coming through all the time to stop 'em. But it will take
a while to ride through the current problems. There was loads of talk
last year from Kevan Gorge about targetting Lake District tourists -
has anyone been to Windermere this summer? And if so, was there any
evidence of Workington games?

That's the kind of forward-thinking needed. So is a new ground and
probably a merged team as well. It will happen, I'm sure (Imagine a
Cumbrian State of Origin team - scary!)

Adam

 
 
 

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Post by Adam Lawrenc » Wed, 07 Aug 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

>>>Question 1. If Paris St Germain had lost to London Broncos (as they
>>should
>>>have done, I am sure the match was a set up) and ended up bottom of Super
>>>League, would Maurice Lindsay et al have allowed them to be relegated?

>>Don't know, but it looks as though he will be spared the embarrassment of
>>having to  make that decision.
>The Paris v London result smelt, of complacency not contrivance. I'm not
>saying we are above such things just in some senses we are fighting for
>survival and those points would have gone a long way to ensuring us
>fourth spot.

If the powers that be wanted to save Paris by getting someone else to
throw a game, why would they pick London, who desperately need wins for
their own credibility? Surely a safe, mid-table heartlands side would
have been a better choice.

That said, I think all this *** theory stuff is pretty hot air.
You can't do this match rigging in the modern era - there are too many
investigative reporters sniffing round. Imagine the headlines - "SL
Chiefs in Match Fixing Scandal." Now THAT would get us in the Sunday
Times!!!!!

Adam

 
 
 

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Post by Leigh Gillespi » Wed, 07 Aug 1996 04:00:00


Quote:
> Question 1. If Paris St Germain had lost to London Broncos (as they should
> have done, I am sure the match was a set up) and ended up bottom of Super
> League, would Maurice Lindsay et al have allowed them to be relegated?

        No, and quite rightly so. European league needs PSG and other
expansion sides a hell of a lot more than it needs another side from the
north of England. To relegate PSG, London or in future South Wales would
be a step backwards.

Quote:
> Question 2. If Workington Town end up bottom of Super League, will Maurice
> Lindsay et al allow them to be relegated?

> What do you think?

        Probably, but I'd have a reservation about it. Workington aren't a
north England side in the sense that they aren't in the same pack as most
of the clubs which are clustered in the area around Leeds. That area
probably only needs four (maybe five) clubs - say Leeds, Sheffield,
Manchester, Hull and/or Liverpool. In the far north keep either Workington
or instead bring in Newcastle or have both. All the other clubs should be
from expansion areas IMO (eg. London [*2?], South Wales, PSG, Birmingham,
Bordeaux, Lyon, Dublin etc.)
        Obviously the questions were asked to point out the inequity, but
equity is never going to get the comp anywhere but rather just leave it
sitting in the same place it has for 101 years. With Union now
professional this is a situation that league can't afford. Hence some
inequity to get a comp that covers the most market and is more marketable.
Painful, but neccessary.

Catchya round, Leigh

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Post by Geff Fost » Wed, 07 Aug 1996 04:00:00


Quote:


>>>Question 2. If Workington Town end up bottom of Super League, will
>>Maurice
>>>Lindsay et al allow them to be relegated?

>>I don't think he dare keep them up, however why Cumbria does not warrant
>>an SL team when, say, South Wales does, I don't know.

>>>What do you think?

>Cumbria clearly does warrant an SL team, but I guess it's up to the
>Cumbrians to put their house in order sufficiently to claim it.

I would agree with you but unfortunately it's a pipe dream :(

Lets say you merged Barrow, Workington, Carlisle and Whitehaven and plonked
a new ground smack bang in the middle of them all.

Number of supporters you would attract - Zippo.

I certainly would not fancy running up huge petrol bills travelling through
those hills, especially in the summer.

Nope somebody will have to come up with a ***y good scheme to get that
show on the road i'm afraid.

Quote:
>I wouldn't mind betting that Workington will be back - there's too much
>junior talent coming through all the time to stop 'em. But it will take
>a while to ride through the current problems. There was loads of talk
>last year from Kevan Gorge about targetting Lake District tourists -
>has anyone been to Windermere this summer? And if so, was there any
>evidence of Workington games?

Yes but most lake district tourists are only there for the day and that's it,
it's like me going up to Scotland for a day and saying "I think I'll pop
down to Ibrox and take in a game"

Geff

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St. Helens, Merseyside   | of it's own"
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Post by Vibrating Bum-Faced Goa » Thu, 08 Aug 1996 04:00:00

: >I wouldn't mind betting that Workington will be back - there's too much
: >junior talent coming through all the time to stop 'em. But it will take
: >a while to ride through the current problems. There was loads of talk
: >last year from Kevan Gorge about targetting Lake District tourists -
: >has anyone been to Windermere this summer? And if so, was there any
: >evidence of Workington games?

: Yes but most lake district tourists are only there for the day and that's it,
: it's like me going up to Scotland for a day and saying "I think I'll pop
: down to Ibrox and take in a game"

I know someone who flew from Massachusetts to do just that. Well, it was
Hampden Park actually but the effect is the same (duck!).

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Post by Vibrating Bum-Faced Goa » Thu, 08 Aug 1996 04:00:00


: > Question 1. If Paris St Germain had lost to London Broncos (as they should
: > have done, I am sure the match was a set up) and ended up bottom of Super
: > League, would Maurice Lindsay et al have allowed them to be relegated?

:       No, and quite rightly so. European league needs PSG and other
: expansion sides a hell of a lot more than it needs another side from the
: north of England. To relegate PSG, London or in future South Wales would
: be a step backwards.

Much as I agree with you, to apply that rule to those clubs and not to,
say, Workington, is a step towards the courts.