Russell Smith - A God Amongst Men

Russell Smith - A God Amongst Men

Post by Vibrating Bum-Faced Goa » Tue, 13 May 1997 04:00:00


OK, time for a show of hands. Who's up for ***ing Russell Smith?

Sunday night's Bradford v St.Helens game was *the* single most
inconsistent refereeing performance I have seen this season. Considering
that I have seen other games refereed by Smith this season that is
certainly saying something. The only thing remotely fair was that he was
shite to both sides.

Keeping in mind that I only saw the game in the flesh and haven't seen
it on TV yet so some of these might get all the better for telling but these
are the things that spring to mind for me:

1) Stuart Spruce's 'tackle' on Tommy Martyn. Why wasn't Spruce put in the
sin bin for that? There was less than ten minutes left sure but that's
not the point. How can you award a penalty try (a try that would have
been scored but for the unfair play of the opposition) without there
being a professional foul. There maybe some instances where it can happen
that don't spring to mind but in this case Spruce was clearly as guilty
as sin.

2) There was a point in the first half when he signalled a knock-on
against Bradford and then awarded a penalty to St.Helens without any
further signal. Why did he award that penalty? No Bradford or St.Helens
player was anywhere near him so the chances of it being for talking back
are pretty minimal. Even if that was the case it is his job to signal the
decision he has made so that those of us who actually give a toss either
way have even the remotest idea what is going on.

3) Also in the first half a Saints player, I think Tommy Martyn, went
into the *** bin. Is there now some edict whereby play is suspended
until that players replacement takes the field? I don't recall such a
situation ever arising before. As I remember the ruling play is suspended
whilst the referee signalls that said player is going to the *** bin
and is immediately resumed. As it was Bradford were on a roll in the
opposition twenty and were stopped in their tracks while Pickavance (I
think) sauntered on rightly taking his time.

4) A couple of tackles on Newlove looked a little suspect from where I
was stood. They were down the other end of the pitch from me and like I
say, I haven't seen it on TV yet but they looked to be treading a thin
line between tough tackling and skewering him into the ground. Whilst I
have no desire for Newlove's head to remain attached to his shoulders I
do feel they should take the Karl Fairbank line on this and batter him in
the changing rooms instead.

5) Dwyer put the shoulder on someone in the second half and knocked them
arse over tit. He was penalised for a high tackle when his arms didn't
look to me to have left his side.

If anyone knows what his next game is let me know and I'll be there to
hold your coats.

Incidentally, Mugwump asked me for directions the other day. I got a
phone call back with him asking me if I thought he was thick for giving
him directions to Odsal. I shall thus take his lack of presence at the game
to mean he was shiting it and didn't in fact end up in Aberestwyth
instead. ;^)

Oh and Lloyd. There was all manner of electronic gadgetry at Odsal last
night to make even your gentleman go hard. :)

--
Chris Russell           | Bradford Bulls - Wembley 1997
Electronic Imaging Unit |
University of Bradford  | Tough on St.Helens
TEL: +44 1274 385463    | Tough on the causes of St.Helens.

 
 
 

Russell Smith - A God Amongst Men

Post by Lloyd J. Barkha » Tue, 13 May 1997 04:00:00



Quote:
>Oh and Lloyd. There was all manner of electronic gadgetry at Odsal last
>night to make even your gentleman go hard. :)

Pardon! Am I missing something here? What are you talking about?

--
Lloyd


 
 
 

Russell Smith - A God Amongst Men

Post by Vibrating Bum-Faced Goa » Tue, 13 May 1997 04:00:00




: >Oh and Lloyd. There was all manner of electronic gadgetry at Odsal last
: >night to make even your gentleman go hard. :)

: Pardon! Am I missing something here? What are you talking about?

A few times I've asked why Headingley is regarded as the best Rugby
League stadium in the country. Your reply, admittedly usually the most
coherent, has generally been along the lines of Odsal not having an
electronic scoreboard.

I'm still none the wiser with regard to Headingley incidentally.

--
Chris Russell           | Bradford Bulls - Wembley 1997
Electronic Imaging Unit |
University of Bradford  | Tough on St.Helens
TEL: +44 1274 385463    | Tough on the causes of St.Helens.

 
 
 

Russell Smith - A God Amongst Men

Post by Lloyd J. Barkha » Tue, 13 May 1997 04:00:00



Quote:



>: >Oh and Lloyd. There was all manner of electronic gadgetry at Odsal last
>: >night to make even your gentleman go hard. :)

>: Pardon! Am I missing something here? What are you talking about?

>A few times I've asked why Headingley is regarded as the best Rugby
>League stadium in the country. Your reply, admittedly usually the most
>coherent, has generally been along the lines of Odsal not having an
>electronic scoreboard.

>I'm still none the wiser with regard to Headingley incidentally.

You mean that Odsal does now have an electronic scoreboard?
--
Lloyd

 
 
 

Russell Smith - A God Amongst Men

Post by Vibrating Bum-Faced Goa » Tue, 13 May 1997 04:00:00







: >: >Oh and Lloyd. There was all manner of electronic gadgetry at Odsal last
: >: >night to make even your gentleman go hard. :)
: >
: >: Pardon! Am I missing something here? What are you talking about?
: >
: >A few times I've asked why Headingley is regarded as the best Rugby
: >League stadium in the country. Your reply, admittedly usually the most
: >coherent, has generally been along the lines of Odsal not having an
: >electronic scoreboard.
: >
: >I'm still none the wiser with regard to Headingley incidentally.
: >
: You mean that Odsal does now have an electronic scoreboard?

Steady on, I didn't say that. I'm saying there was a little screen thing
that showed animations and the like after tries and goals. For a missed
goal it showed the ball heading towards the sticks with the posts jumping
to one side at the last second for example.

You still haven't answered BTW.

--
Chris Russell           | Bradford Bulls - Wembley 1997
Electronic Imaging Unit |
University of Bradford  | Tough on St.Helens
TEL: +44 1274 385463    | Tough on the causes of St.Helens.

 
 
 

Russell Smith - A God Amongst Men

Post by Lloyd J. Barkha » Tue, 13 May 1997 04:00:00



Quote:






>: >: >Oh and Lloyd. There was all manner of electronic gadgetry at Odsal last
>: >: >night to make even your gentleman go hard. :)
>: >
>: >: Pardon! Am I missing something here? What are you talking about?
>: >
>: >A few times I've asked why Headingley is regarded as the best Rugby
>: >League stadium in the country. Your reply, admittedly usually the most
>: >coherent, has generally been along the lines of Odsal not having an
>: >electronic scoreboard.
>: >
>: >I'm still none the wiser with regard to Headingley incidentally.
>: >
>: You mean that Odsal does now have an electronic scoreboard?

>Steady on, I didn't say that. I'm saying there was a little screen thing
>that showed animations and the like after tries and goals. For a missed
>goal it showed the ball heading towards the sticks with the posts jumping
>to one side at the last second for example.

>You still haven't answered BTW.

I did answer some time ago. Apart from the electronic gadgetry etc. the
viewing is better at Headingley due to the proximity of the stands to
the pitch. With the speedway/stock car track round the pitch, spectators
are too far away. I have the same criticism of the Don Valley in this
regard.

There is more covered area at Headingley than there is at Odsal. The
temperature at Odsal has always been at least 10 degrees less than the
surrounding area. :-)

And last of all, Headingley is home and is obviously better than
anywhere else.

--
Lloyd

 
 
 

Russell Smith - A God Amongst Men

Post by PIEMA » Tue, 13 May 1997 04:00:00



Quote:
> OK, time for a show of hands. Who's up for ***ing Russell Smith?

> Sunday night's Bradford v St.Helens game was *the* single most
> inconsistent refereeing performance I have seen this season. Considering
> that I have seen other games refereed by Smith this season that is
> certainly saying something. The only thing remotely fair was that he was
> shite to both sides.

> Keeping in mind that I only saw the game in the flesh and haven't seen
> it on TV yet so some of these might get all the better for telling but
these
> are the things that spring to mind for me:

< Well & truly SNIPPED>
Sorry but the most inept officiating award must go to Stuart Cummings & co
at Wembley.
     He was also shite to both sides.
s previousley posted have we got a decent ref in the league?

--
PIEMAN            
SAY NO TO TESCO

http://freespace.***.net/evans.g/pieman

 
 
 

Russell Smith - A God Amongst Men

Post by Mugwu » Tue, 13 May 1997 04:00:00


Quote:



>> OK, time for a show of hands. Who's up for ***ing Russell Smith?

>> Sunday night's Bradford v St.Helens game was *the* single most
>> inconsistent refereeing performance I have seen this season. Considering
>> that I have seen other games refereed by Smith this season that is
>> certainly saying something. The only thing remotely fair was that he was
>> shite to both sides.

>> Keeping in mind that I only saw the game in the flesh and haven't seen
>> it on TV yet so some of these might get all the better for telling but
>these
>> are the things that spring to mind for me:

>< Well & truly SNIPPED>
>Sorry but the most inept officiating award must go to Stuart Cummings & co
>at Wembley.
>     He was also shite to both sides.
>s previousley posted have we got a decent ref in the league?

Well doesn't that tell you that the ref's job has become nigh on impossible????

Mugwump.

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Russell Smith - A God Amongst Men

Post by Paul McNal » Wed, 14 May 1997 04:00:00


Quote:
>Sorry but the most inept officiating award must go to Stuart Cummings & co
>at Wembley.
>     He was also shite to both sides.
>s previousley posted have we got a decent ref in the league?

>--
>PIEMAN            
>SAY NO TO TESCO

>http://freespace.***.net/evans.g/pieman

Campbell had a pretty reasonable game in the Reds v Rhinos game if
that's any help...

Paul

 
 
 

Russell Smith - A God Amongst Men

Post by Vibrating Bum-Faced Goa » Thu, 15 May 1997 04:00:00


: OK, time for a show of hands. Who's up for ***ing Russell Smith?

I've since seen the game on TV and perhaps my first impressions were a
little harsh on Smith. I still reckon he's done enough for a ***y good
kicking though.

: 2) There was a point in the first half when he signalled a knock-on
: against Bradford and then awarded a penalty to St.Helens without any
: further signal. Why did he award that penalty? No Bradford or St.Helens
: player was anywhere near him so the chances of it being for talking back
: are pretty minimal. Even if that was the case it is his job to signal the
: decision he has made so that those of us who actually give a toss either
: way have even the remotest idea what is going on.

This was for offside against Mike Foreshaw. He still didn't signal it though.

: --
: Chris Russell           | Bradford Bulls - Wembley 1997
: Electronic Imaging Unit |
: University of Bradford  | Tough on St.Helens
: TEL: +44 1274 385463    | Tough on the causes of St.Helens.

--
Chris Russell           | Bradford Bulls - Wembley 1997
Electronic Imaging Unit |
University of Bradford  | Tough on St.Helens
TEL: +44 1274 385463    | Tough on the causes of St.Helens.

 
 
 

Russell Smith - A God Amongst Men

Post by Greg War » Thu, 15 May 1997 04:00:00



Quote:
>OK, time for a show of hands. Who's up for ***ing Russell Smith?

>Sunday night's Bradford v St.Helens game was *the* single most
>inconsistent refereeing performance I have seen this season. Considering
>that I have seen other games refereed by Smith this season that is
>certainly saying something. The only thing remotely fair was that he was
>shite to both sides.

If you think Russell Smith's bad you should see some of the refs in the
second divison. My favourites are N.Oddy (where's Big Ears ref?) and Mr
A.Burke. One ref this season even went as far calling for the big screen
to decide if a try was OK (the only big screens in Barrow are at the
cinema). Bring back Mr. Mean thats what I say!

BTW did I ever tell anyone about the time Greg McCallum stuck two
fingers up to the crowd at Craven Park?
--
Greg
----

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Russell Smith - A God Amongst Men

Post by Paul Dinsda » Fri, 16 May 1997 04:00:00


Quote:

> If you think Russell Smith's bad you should see some of the refs in the
> second divison

Karl Kirkpatrick gets my vote for refereeing underachiever of the season.

--
Paul Dinsdale