League Players Taking a Break in Union!

League Players Taking a Break in Union!

Post by Michael Tuck » Sun, 25 Aug 1996 04:00:00


It seems to me that the only reason rugby league players are going to
union in the off season is to put some extra money in their pockets,
after all it can't be for the rugby.

Then again some players like to take it easy!

--------------

Now that union has gone professional and they are paying their
players there is going to be a massive wage bill eg. Bath 1.8 million.

Where is this money coming from?

If the money was always there what was it spent on in the past?

REPLIES PLEASE

 
 
 

League Players Taking a Break in Union!

Post by Stev » Sun, 25 Aug 1996 04:00:00



Quote:
>It seems to me that the only reason rugby league players are going to
>union in the off season is to put some extra money in their pockets,
>after all it can't be for the rugby.

>Then again some players like to take it easy!

>--------------

>Now that union has gone professional and they are paying their
>players there is going to be a massive wage bill eg. Bath 1.8 million.

>Where is this money coming from?

>If the money was always there what was it spent on in the past?

>REPLIES PLEASE

I for one have been impressed with the Rugby in SL but is it not glib to
dismiss RU out of hand.

You for one have not been chinned by the OX of Sheppy or rucked by the
rampaging bulls of Cologno (Milan).

As for the money now in RU, it makes you wonder doesn't it, there must
be tens of millions floating round in the UK that wasn't visible last
year.  

--
Steve

 
 
 

League Players Taking a Break in Union!

Post by John Willia » Sun, 25 Aug 1996 04:00:00

[...]

Quote:
>>Now that union has gone professional and they are paying their
>>players there is going to be a massive wage bill eg. Bath 1.8 million.

>>Where is this money coming from?

>>If the money was always there what was it spent on in the past?
>I for one have been impressed with the Rugby in SL but is it not glib to
>dismiss RU out of hand.

Why thank you kind sir.

[...]

Quote:
>As for the money now in RU, it makes you wonder doesn't it, there must
>be tens of millions floating round in the UK that wasn't visible last
>year.  

A few of the RU clubs are getting big money from wealthy individuals with a
severe ego problem (Bath, Saracens, Newcastle, Richmond etc).

A least one club has been bought lock, prop and *** as a commercial
business (Wasps, in combination with QPR soccer club).

Some clubs have made big sponsorship deals (Harlequins - damned if I can
remember who with. It was obviously a good idea), and one or two actually
make a bit of money at the turnstile (Leicester for example - who spent
recent surpluses on a new stand and clubhouse before the wage bill
appeared).

The big row over the 5 Nations tournament, which one or two league fans
might have heard about, concerns a lucrative tv deal which would benefit
all the English clubs to some degree if it still goes ahead.

The money wasn't visible in RU last year because globally it was still
(sh)amateur then. Whether it was there hidden away out of sight of Mr
Taxman or not, I couldn't possibly say. The fact most clubs have been
desperate for funds to keep their players or buy in new ones suggests the
money wasn't there.

Hope this helps.

All the best



 
 
 

League Players Taking a Break in Union!

Post by Stev » Mon, 26 Aug 1996 04:00:00



Quote:



>[...]

>>>Now that union has gone professional and they are paying their
>>>players there is going to be a massive wage bill eg. Bath 1.8 million.

>>>Where is this money coming from?

>>>If the money was always there what was it spent on in the past?

>>I for one have been impressed with the Rugby in SL but is it not glib to
>>dismiss RU out of hand.

>Why thank you kind sir.

>[...]

>>As for the money now in RU, it makes you wonder doesn't it, there must
>>be tens of millions floating round in the UK that wasn't visible last
>>year.  

>A few of the RU clubs are getting big money from wealthy individuals with a
>severe ego problem (Bath, Saracens, Newcastle, Richmond etc).

>A least one club has been bought lock, prop and *** as a commercial
>business (Wasps, in combination with QPR soccer club).

>Some clubs have made big sponsorship deals (Harlequins - damned if I can
>remember who with. It was obviously a good idea), and one or two actually
>make a bit of money at the turnstile (Leicester for example - who spent
>recent surpluses on a new stand and clubhouse before the wage bill
>appeared).

>The big row over the 5 Nations tournament, which one or two league fans
>might have heard about, concerns a lucrative tv deal which would benefit
>all the English clubs to some degree if it still goes ahead.

>The money wasn't visible in RU last year because globally it was still
>(sh)amateur then. Whether it was there hidden away out of sight of Mr
>Taxman or not, I couldn't possibly say. The fact most clubs have been
>desperate for funds to keep their players or buy in new ones suggests the
>money wasn't there.

>Hope this helps.

>All the best



A lot of the new (visible) money will come from the RFU, we can make the
direct link between TV money and the RFU's new found wealth but they
have had a decent income since the year dot. Where did it all go?

--
Steve

 
 
 

League Players Taking a Break in Union!

Post by John Willia » Tue, 27 Aug 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

>A lot of the new (visible) money will come from the RFU, we can make the
>direct link between TV money and the RFU's new found wealth but they
>have had a decent income since the year dot. Where did it all go?

Something around 70-80 million has been spent on Twickenham over recent
years. I believe the annual interest on the loan is about 3-4 million. I
suppose the rest was spent on pink gin.

All the best


 
 
 

League Players Taking a Break in Union!

Post by Simon Sherbur » Wed, 28 Aug 1996 04:00:00



Quote:

>The big row over the 5 Nations tournament, which one or two league fans
>might have heard about, concerns a lucrative tv deal which would benefit
>all the English clubs to some degree if it still goes ahead.

I thought it was to do with the England side and ignored the other four.
Quote:

>The money wasn't visible in RU last year because globally it was still
>(sh)amateur then.

The players got "training and travelling" expenses didn't they?
Quote:

>All the best



Simon Sherburn
--
No signature yet but still thinking....

 
 
 

League Players Taking a Break in Union!

Post by Simon Sherbur » Thu, 29 Aug 1996 04:00:00



[snip]

Quote:
>Yep. The RFU sold the rights to all Internationals played at Twickenham,
>including the 5 Nations matches. The other Home Countries thought this was
>inappropriate, and that the English Union didn't have the right to sell the
>English home games separately.

... and bye goes the five nations championship, the only thing England
are capable of winning.

Quote:

[snip]

>Certainly. Some even got fifty quid stuffed in their boots, or a tasty job
>in the City. It was, at least to a certain extent, hypocritical. But I
>don't need to tell RL fans that, do I?

Sounds like the 'old school tie' mentality.  

Quote:

>All the best



Simon Sherburn

--
No signature yet but still thinking....

 
 
 

League Players Taking a Break in Union!

Post by John Willia » Thu, 29 Aug 1996 04:00:00

Quote:



>>The big row over the 5 Nations tournament, which one or two league fans
>>might have heard about, concerns a lucrative tv deal which would benefit
>>all the English clubs to some degree if it still goes ahead.
>I thought it was to do with the England side and ignored the other four.

Yep. The RFU sold the rights to all Internationals played at Twickenham,
including the 5 Nations matches. The other Home Countries thought this was
inappropriate, and that the English Union didn't have the right to sell the
English home games separately.

Quote:

>>The money wasn't visible in RU last year because globally it was still
>>(sh)amateur then.
>The players got "training and travelling" expenses didn't they?

Certainly. Some even got fifty quid stuffed in their boots, or a tasty job
in the City. It was, at least to a certain extent, hypocritical. But I
don't need to tell RL fans that, do I?

All the best


 
 
 

League Players Taking a Break in Union!

Post by Vibrating Bum-Faced Goa » Tue, 03 Sep 1996 04:00:00



: >The money wasn't visible in RU last year because globally it was still
: >(sh)amateur then. Whether it was there hidden away out of sight of Mr
: >Taxman or not, I couldn't possibly say. The fact most clubs have been
: >desperate for funds to keep their players or buy in new ones suggests the
: >money wasn't there.
: >

: A lot of the new (visible) money will come from the RFU, we can make the
: direct link between TV money and the RFU's new found wealth but they
: have had a decent income since the year dot. Where did it all go?

Bath have a new sponsership deal with Hallmark Cards of 1.5 million. That
figure is larger than the deal the whole RFL has with Stones Bitter.

I'm not surprised, more people enjoy a drink of Hallmark Cards than they
do Stones. Me for one.

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Post by Southern_Jessi » Tue, 03 Sep 1996 04:00:00


        [Snip]

|> Bath have a new sponsership deal with Hallmark Cards of 1.5 million. That
|> figure is larger than the deal the whole RFL has with Stones Bitter.
|>
|> I'm not surprised, more people enjoy a drink of Hallmark Cards than they
|> do Stones. Me for one.

        Those of you who enjoy both codes may have read my usual ;-)
        inflammatory posting in r.s.r.u. ,sound of green gooey stuff
        hitting spittoon> regarding the effect the new union rules
        are likely to have.  It seems to me - now that I've had a
        chance to see their effect on a NH game - that they are
        likely to do away with the very thing which gives RU its
        distinctive flavour namely nitty gritty down in the mud forward
        play.  RL has developed to make forwards into a sort of
        front row of backs in union parlance (if you know what I
        mean).  The end result will be an RU game where things are
        unnaturally loaded in favour of back lines and I for one
        don't find it satisfying to watch or boding well for the
        future.

        There has been much talk of the likely effect that a pro RU
        will have on RL.  Well, I can't see it taking spectators
        away for a start.  Thank God there's the NFL to fill in
        most of the months before SL returns.  Methinks RL can only
        go from strength to strength given the alternative.   Nobody
        can foresee the future of course, but for me the new rules
        mean the step forward made with (honest) professionalism
        has been reversed by making the game more on-dimensional.
        Who knows, we may even get Wigan against Leicester in the
        Super League in a couple of years :-)

        Any other cross-coders care to comment?  

SJ