Paris and relegation.

Paris and relegation.

Post by Antonioni P » Tue, 03 Jun 1997 04:00:00


I think someone should point out that that developing the game in France
sort of requires a French team not a bunch of Australian reserve graders.
I think that keeping Paris in SL is fine when the side is 80% French, but
not when it is 98% antipodean. That would seem to be a recipe for
weakening the game. League needs a strong French club side and a strong
French national side, and a regular France GB tests. That's not going to
happen under current arrangements.

P.J.

 
 
 

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Post by Paul McNal » Tue, 03 Jun 1997 04:00:00



Quote:
>It has always been like this in Rugby League. How many "I told you it would
>never work" doom-mongers will have their say if PSG finish bottom and the
>League are stupid enough to relegate them, thus killing their own
>experiment after only two seasons, despite of all the evidence which has
>proven Parisiens will watch and support the game? There will be many of
>them, I am sure. But what is their alternative vision for the future of our
>sport? For it to be stuck in the nothern towns of England for another 100
>years? That will be the price of the failure of PSG.

Still pretty sure they can't be relegated because it's in the contract
to have a Grench capital side in the top flight...

Paul

 
 
 

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Post by Lauren » Thu, 05 Jun 1997 04:00:00




    >
    > >It has always been like this in Rugby League. How many "I told you it
    > would
    > >never work" doom-mongers will have their say if PSG finish bottom and the
    > >League are stupid enough to relegate them, thus killing their own
    > >experiment after only two seasons, despite of all the evidence which has
    > >proven Parisiens will watch and support the game? There will be many of
    > >them, I am sure. But what is their alternative vision for the future of
    > our
    > >sport? For it to be stuck in the nothern towns of England for another 100
    > >years? That will be the price of the failure of PSG.
    > >
    >
    > Still pretty sure they can't be relegated because it's in the contract
    > to have a Grench capital side in the top flight...
    >
    > Paul

I think that automatic promotion and relegation to the Super league should be
put on hold. At the end of each season the bottom four clubs should seek
re-election along with the top four clubs of the first division. Election
should be made on many factors geographical being a major constituent, Tough
but essential unless you just want the game to fade away now that Union is
fighting back by paying league players to swap codes.

Cheers Laurence

--
Softnet

 
 
 

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Post by WiganRLf » Thu, 05 Jun 1997 04:00:00


Quote:
(Paul McNally) writes:
>Still pretty sure they can't be relegated because it's in the contract
>to have a Grench capital side in the top flight...

If this is correct I just can't believe the mob at HQ did not state what
would happen at the start of the season if Paris finshed bottom.  

I know they are usless (the mob at HQ, not Paris) but even they are not
daft enough to simply "hope" Paris would not end up bottom???

Mind you, if Warrington don't buck up soon they could save em the problem.

Dave

Wigan RLFC - Simply THE Best.

 
 
 

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Post by Paul Matthe » Thu, 05 Jun 1997 04:00:00



Quote:
>Still pretty sure they can't be relegated because it's in the contract
>to have a Grench capital side in the top flight...

More Expansion? where is Grance?

Paul Matthews
http://www.triton.u-net.com

 
 
 

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Post by Paul McNal » Thu, 05 Jun 1997 04:00:00


Quote:



>>Still pretty sure they can't be relegated because it's in the contract
>>to have a Grench capital side in the top flight...

>More Expansion? where is Grance?

>Paul Matthews
>http://SportToday.org/


***y keyboard!

Paul

 
 
 

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Post by John Drak » Thu, 05 Jun 1997 04:00:00



Quote:
> I think that automatic promotion and relegation to the Super league
should be
> put on hold. At the end of each season the bottom four clubs should seek
> re-election along with the top four clubs of the first division. Election
> should be made on many factors geographical being a major constituent,
Tough
> but essential unless you just want the game to fade away now that Union
is
> fighting back by paying league players to swap codes.

> Cheers Laurence

Couldn't agree more with this suggestion. Spot on. The only question would
be who was doing the electing - if it's just the thicko club chairmen it
wouldn't work because they always vote in their own self interest, never in
the wider interest of the game. There ought to be some kind of Rugby League
Trust established, consisting of independent members drawn from all areas
of the game, and with experience outside it too (the likes of Richard
Branson for example, but NOT Rodney ***y Walker!). That Trust should have
a set of guiding principles which are in the public domain, and it should
meet in public too. The clubs in the relegation/promotion spots should put
their cases, and those with the strongest case win the right to compete in
the Super league. This should also be the time when new applications ie
Dublin/Newcastle etc are considered. Everybody then knows where they stand,
can see how the process works, and work out their plan to achieve SL status
in a more rational waty than throwing all your money at an unsustainable
promotion campaign, or trying to avoid the drop.

The SL should have a set of meaningful minimum standards, as should each of
the lower divisions, and if clubs can't meet them after a given period of
time, their Murdoch money should be chopped and given to another club which
has shown more ability to promote the game. I used to feel sympathetic
towards clubs like Prescot, but I've come to realise they are a ***y joke
who are discrediting Rugby league by being allowed to call themselves a
"professional" club. Amateur clubs do more than they do to promote and
develop the sport and should be able to get their hands on the money which
is currently being wasted there.

I doubt if I'll live long enough to see the RFL ever adopt a system as
straightforward, open, honest and simple as this. But hope is never
extinguished!

John Drake
http://SportToday.org/

 
 
 

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Post by John Drak » Thu, 05 Jun 1997 04:00:00



Quote:
> I know they are usless (the mob at HQ, not Paris) but even they are not
> daft enough to simply "hope" Paris would not end up bottom???

Oh yes they are. It's what happened last year. Wonder what the Aussie SL
would do if Adelaide, their promotional flagship club, finished bottom
there? Dump 'em, or spend a pot more money making it work?

Answers on a French Stick to Red Hall....

John Drake
http://greatestgame.simplenet.com

 
 
 

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Post by Lloyd J. Barkha » Sat, 07 Jun 1997 04:00:00



Quote:



>> I know they are usless (the mob at HQ, not Paris) but even they are not
>> daft enough to simply "hope" Paris would not end up bottom???

>Oh yes they are. It's what happened last year. Wonder what the Aussie SL
>would do if Adelaide, their promotional flagship club, finished bottom
>there? Dump 'em, or spend a pot more money making it work?

>Answers on a French Stick to Red Hall....

As far as I'm aware there is no promotion/relegation in Australia at
all. Their leagues, both SL and ARL are run like American Football in
the USA.
--
Lloyd

 
 
 

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Post by John Drak » Sat, 07 Jun 1997 04:00:00

Quote:

> As far as I'm aware there is no promotion/relegation in Australia at
> all. Their leagues, both SL and ARL are run like American Football in
> the USA.
> --
> Lloyd


This probably goes a long way to explain why their competition(s) have been
and are still considered (WCC results pending!) so much stronger and more
successful than ours.

John Drake
http://greatestgame.simplenet.com

 
 
 

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Post by KDaleHu » Mon, 09 Jun 1997 04:00:00

As long as things are put on hold next season, seeing as Hull look like
being champions of division 1, and could finish bottom of SL next season !
I think SL should move into the big city arena, after all that was the
original concept. By good fortune the eighth biggest city in England is
about to arrive in the SL, the fact they are also the third best supported
RL club of all time is also very fortunate.

 
 
 

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Post by Vibrating Bum-Faced Goa » Tue, 10 Jun 1997 04:00:00




: >
: >>Still pretty sure they can't be relegated because it's in the contract
: >>to have a Grench capital side in the top flight...
: >
: >More Expansion? where is Grance?
: >

: ***y keyboard!

The catchment area is none too impressive if the whole place is in your
keyboard.

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Post by Paul Matthe » Wed, 11 Jun 1997 04:00:00


Quote:

>The catchment area is none too impressive if the whole place is in your
>keyboard.

But if it includes all keyboards....

Paul Matthews
http://www.triton.u-net.com