Thanks John Quayle

Thanks John Quayle

Post by Michael Burk » Mon, 11 Nov 1996 04:00:00


<Snipt>

Quote:
>    So anyway, from this league supporter at least, thanks John
>Qualye. I wish you well in all your future endeavours.

It did, Leigh, it did, but I agree with you that he did a good job,
and regardless of the outcome of the continuing brawl, he will be
missed.

Personally, I never blamed Quayle for any of the current rubbish.  As
a hired hand, he has to do what his Board tells him to do.  

Mike
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Post by John Hull » Tue, 12 Nov 1996 04:00:00

Nice sentiments, Leigh, and well put.

RL is in a desperate state in Britain, France, and New Zealand because we
haven't had the the sort of leadership that Arko and Quayle showed in Oz.

John



Quote:
> Perhaps he is correct and now the time is right for him to step
> aside and allow new ideas and fresh *** to fill his place. All I can
say
> is if that fresh *** is half as good as what it replaces then the game
> will surely emerge from this new dark age to once again rule supreme as
> the greatest game of all.
>    So anyway, from this league supporter at least, thanks John
> Qualye. I wish you well in all your future endeavours.


 
 
 

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Post by Leigh Gillespi » Tue, 12 Nov 1996 04:00:00

        Now I'm sure there will be many amongst us spouting off with all
sorts of ***celebrating Mr Quayle's departure but I urge those who would
make such comments to think back on what he has done for the game. It has
been a most remarkable journey for the game under the stewardship of John
Qualye and Arko and even more so from such a sorry position. Back `83 it
was a game in chaos (not too much unlike the current situation) with
declining attendances, gross financial mismanagement and the odd hint of
high level corruption. In the following decade the game in Australian
experienced its most prosperous period ever and despite recent events we
can never take credit for that away from Messers Qualye and Arthurson.
        So I'd just like to express my gratitude to Mr Quayle for all he
has done for the great game. Without his contribution to the
administration of Australian (NSW) RL during the mid to late eighties it
is very unlikely that league would be anywhere near the national game that
has become today. We may not have seen the historic expansion beyoud NSW
in 1988 and then further into NZ and WA in `95. We may not have seen the
record support and profits (which made the game so interesting for
Murdoch) or the great sight of 87,000 Victorians packing out the MCG for
origin. Who would have believed back in 1983?
        Sure he made mistakes (one of which was probably sticking around 3
or 4 years too long) and he must take his share of the blame for those of
the NSWRL and ARL but without his contibution who knows how the game would
have emerged from those dark days of the early eighties. Certainly no
better. Perhaps he is correct and now the time is right for him to step
aside and allow new ideas and fresh *** to fill his place. All I can say
is if that fresh *** is half as good as what it replaces then the game
will surely emerge from this new dark age to once again rule supreme as
the greatest game of all.
        So anyway, from this league supporter at least, thanks John
Qualye. I wish you well in all your future endeavours.

Catchya round, Leigh (desparately hoping all that didn't sound too corny)

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Post by Darren Murph » Wed, 13 Nov 1996 04:00:00

->   So I'd just like to express my gratitude to Mr Quayle for all he
-> has done for the great game. Without his contribution to the
-> administration of Australian (NSW) RL during the mid to late eighties it
-> is very unlikely that league would be anywhere near the national game that
-> has become today. We may not have seen the historic expansion beyoud NSW
-> in 1988 and then further into NZ and WA in `95. We may not have seen the
-> record support and profits (which made the game so interesting for
-> Murdoch) or the great sight of 87,000 Victorians packing out the MCG for
-> origin. Who would have believed back in 1983?
->   So anyway, from this league supporter at least, thanks John
-> Qualye. I wish you well in all your future endeavours.

Agreed.

-> Catchya round, Leigh (desparately hoping all that didn't sound too corny)

Wel yeah but twas true and all (:

Darren.

 
 
 

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Post by Peter McNall » Wed, 13 Nov 1996 04:00:00



<Quayle testimonial snipped>

Quote:
>    So anyway, from this league supporter at least, thanks John
> Qualye. I wish you well in all your future endeavours.

> Catchya round, Leigh (desparately hoping all that didn't sound too corny)

Pass the butter and salt Leigh! If Quayle was personally and
single-handedly for all the miracles you attribute him with, what has Arko
been doing all this time?

I do believe Quayle (and Arko) had the best interests of the game at heart,
and credit to them for that. I do feel though that they lost the plot
somewhere along the way. Ergo, the game is now in the state that you
described prior to Quayle's miracles (falling attendances, loss of interest
etc.).

I can't help reading between the lines here. I heard a rumour (REPEAT -
RUMOUR this is not presented as FACT so keep your flames at the end of your
Winfields) that the ARL was ready to do a deal with News Corp some time
ago. News Corp were happy to keep Arko on as Chief Executive but had no
time or place for Quayle. With Quayle's departure (at a rather odd time in
ARL history and for no apparent reason) is this the ARL board making way to
stitch things up for one comp next year? The scenario would be:

1. Arthurson no. 1.
2. Ribot no. 2.
3. A two tiered comp pending the inevitable mergers etc or too many Sydney
clubs.
4. Channel 9 retaining FTA TV rights (note no deal yet on SL FTA rights).
5. OV and Foxtel sharing PAY rights - probably both carriers showing
"prominent" games, OV having the rest, and Foxtel having the
Australian/European playoffs.

As a one time physics student, cause and effect comes into play. With
Quayle's departure we can only wonder at the cause and speculate on the
effect. You have my OPINION, others are welcome, but don't tell me mine is
wrong until you have PROOF.

Peter.

 
 
 

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Post by Peter McNall » Wed, 13 Nov 1996 04:00:00



Quote:


>  The scenario would be:

> > 1. Arthurson no. 1.
> > 2. Ribot no. 2.
> > 3. A two tiered comp pending the inevitable mergers etc or too many
Sydney
> > clubs.
> > 4. Channel 9 retaining FTA TV rights (note no deal yet on SL FTA
rights).
> > 5. OV and Foxtel sharing PAY rights - probably both carriers showing
> > "prominent" games, OV having the rest, and Foxtel having the
> > Australian/European playoffs.

> > As a one time physics student, cause and effect comes into play. With
> > Quayle's departure we can only wonder at the cause and speculate on the
> > effect. You have my OPINION, others are welcome, but don't tell me mine
is
> > wrong until you have PROOF.

> > Peter.

> Sounds good to me, but it's not just wishful thinking is it?

> Sculler

As I said - "we can speculate on the effect" :-) & the "cause" was derived
from a rumour stated as such.

Peter.

 
 
 

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Post by The Happy On » Wed, 13 Nov 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

>         Now I'm sure there will be many amongst us spouting off with all
> sorts of ***celebrating Mr Quayle's departure but I urge those who would
> make such comments to think back on what he has done for the game. It has
> been a most remarkable journey for the game under the stewardship of John
> Qualye and Arko and even more so from such a sorry position. Back `83 it
> was a game in chaos (not too much unlike the current situation) with
> declining attendances, gross financial mismanagement and the odd hint of
> high level corruption. In the following decade the game in Australian
> experienced its most prosperous period ever and despite recent events we
> can never take credit for that away from Messers Qualye and Arthurson.
>         So I'd just like to express my gratitude to Mr Quayle for all he
> has done for the great game. Without his contribution to the
> administration of Australian (NSW) RL during the mid to late eighties it
> is very unlikely that league would be anywhere near the national game that
> has become today. We may not have seen the historic expansion beyoud NSW
> in 1988 and then further into NZ and WA in `95. We may not have seen the
> record support and profits (which made the game so interesting for
> Murdoch) or the great sight of 87,000 Victorians packing out the MCG for
> origin. Who would have believed back in 1983?
>         Sure he made mistakes (one of which was probably sticking around 3
> or 4 years too long) and he must take his share of the blame for those of
> the NSWRL and ARL but without his contibution who knows how the game would
> have emerged from those dark days of the early eighties. Certainly no
> better. Perhaps he is correct and now the time is right for him to step
> aside and allow new ideas and fresh *** to fill his place. All I can say
> is if that fresh *** is half as good as what it replaces then the game
> will surely emerge from this new dark age to once again rule supreme as
> the greatest game of all.
>         So anyway, from this league supporter at least, thanks John
> Qualye. I wish you well in all your future endeavours.

> Catchya round, Leigh (desparately hoping all that didn't sound too corny)

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Spare us please.  What a load of rubbish.  All Queenslanders should
remember the days when even our newspaper organised facsimile sheets to
be sent to Quayle blaming him for the gross injustice done to
Queenslanders in terms of the State of Origin and the King.

Good riddance Quayle, it will be a good day when Arko follows.  Hail the
King, we want Wally as the Top Man of the ARL.

 
 
 

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Post by Leigh Gillespi » Wed, 13 Nov 1996 04:00:00


Quote:


> <Quayle testimonial snipped>

> >       So anyway, from this league supporter at least, thanks John
> > Qualye. I wish you well in all your future endeavours.

> > Catchya round, Leigh (desparately hoping all that didn't sound too corny)

> Pass the butter and salt Leigh! If Quayle was personally and
> single-handedly for all the miracles you attribute him with, what has Arko
> been doing all this time?

        I was not trying to paint him as the second messiah but merely
point out how much he has put into the game. I don't attribute all those
things to him single handedly but certainly without his contribution we
may not have seen some of those things or perhaps they wouldn't have been
as great (for example perhaps only 40,000 at Princes Park rather than
90,000 at the MCG). He was one of the leaders of the game through its most
prosperous period and no matter what has happened since we can't take that
away from him. As you say in your snip to my post it was a testimonial on
my part, and as such not strictly meant to be an objective analysis of his
entire rein. Which is why I avoided concentrating on his mistakes and the
current crisis.

Quote:
> I do believe Quayle (and Arko) had the best interests of the game at heart,
> and credit to them for that. I do feel though that they lost the plot
> somewhere along the way. Ergo, the game is now in the state that you
> described prior to Quayle's miracles (falling attendances, loss of interest
> etc.).

        Certainly. IMO both Quayle and Arko should have been looking to
move on by around 1990 and definately by the end of the 1992 season. Like
so many empires and governments they got stale. They'd done a great job
but just ran out of ideas and just started going through the motions. It
was no fault of their own, its just a natural thing that happens to those
in power. IMO it was time to hand over to someone fresh with new ideas
(ie. someone like John Ribot - not necessarily Ribot specificly).

Quote:
> I can't help reading between the lines here. I heard a rumour (REPEAT -
> RUMOUR this is not presented as FACT so keep your flames at the end of your
> Winfields) that the ARL was ready to do a deal with News Corp some time
> ago. News Corp were happy to keep Arko on as Chief Executive but had no
> time or place for Quayle. With Quayle's departure (at a rather odd time in
> ARL history and for no apparent reason) is this the ARL board making way to
> stitch things up for one comp next year? The scenario would be:

> 1. Arthurson no. 1.
> 2. Ribot no. 2.
> 3. A two tiered comp pending the inevitable mergers etc or too many Sydney
> clubs.
> 4. Channel 9 retaining FTA TV rights (note no deal yet on SL FTA rights).
> 5. OV and Foxtel sharing PAY rights - probably both carriers showing
> "prominent" games, OV having the rest, and Foxtel having the
> Australian/European playoffs.

> As a one time physics student, cause and effect comes into play. With
> Quayle's departure we can only wonder at the cause and speculate on the
> effect. You have my OPINION, others are welcome, but don't tell me mine is
> wrong until you have PROOF.

        I wouldn't be so arrogant to do so and while I agree this would be
an ideal outcome (without the two tier system which I don't like for
reasons outlined many times previously) I have my concerns about its
prospects. Chief among those is the appointment of Mr Quayle's
replacement. If there is no compromise before the appointment, which would
allow Ribot to step straight in, (very likely) and the replacement is
from within the current ARL  adminstration (eg. Colin Love) then we may
still have the same problems. Such a replacement would have been
intimately involved with the ARL side of the battle and would likely share
the same stance on compromise as the others within the ARL (like Mr
Quayle). Whereas an outside replacement won't be as war hardened and may
be prepared to be more concillitory towards news and offer fresh
perspectives. Just a thought...

Catchya round, Leigh

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Post by John Tayl » Wed, 13 Nov 1996 04:00:00


 The scenario would be:

Quote:

> 1. Arthurson no. 1.
> 2. Ribot no. 2.
> 3. A two tiered comp pending the inevitable mergers etc or too many Sydney
> clubs.
> 4. Channel 9 retaining FTA TV rights (note no deal yet on SL FTA rights).
> 5. OV and Foxtel sharing PAY rights - probably both carriers showing
> "prominent" games, OV having the rest, and Foxtel having the
> Australian/European playoffs.

> As a one time physics student, cause and effect comes into play. With
> Quayle's departure we can only wonder at the cause and speculate on the
> effect. You have my OPINION, others are welcome, but don't tell me mine is
> wrong until you have PROOF.

> Peter.

Sounds good to me, but it's not just wishful thinking is it?

Sculler

 
 
 

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Post by Peter Con » Thu, 14 Nov 1996 04:00:00



Quote:

>>         Now I'm sure there will be many amongst us spouting off with all
>> sorts of ***celebrating Mr Quayle's departure but I urge those who would
>> make such comments to think back on what he has done for the game. It has
>> been a most remarkable journey for the game under the stewardship of John
>> Qualye and Arko and even more so from such a sorry position. Back `83 it
>> was a game in chaos (not too much unlike the current situation) with
>> declining attendances, gross financial mismanagement and the odd hint of
>> high level corruption. In the following decade the game in Australian
>> experienced its most prosperous period ever and despite recent events we
>> can never take credit for that away from Messers Qualye and Arthurson.
>>         So I'd just like to express my gratitude to Mr Quayle for all he
>> has done for the great game. Without his contribution to the
>> administration of Australian (NSW) RL during the mid to late eighties it
>> is very unlikely that league would be anywhere near the national game that
>> has become today. We may not have seen the historic expansion beyoud NSW
>> in 1988 and then further into NZ and WA in `95. We may not have seen the
>> record support and profits (which made the game so interesting for
>> Murdoch) or the great sight of 87,000 Victorians packing out the MCG for
>> origin. Who would have believed back in 1983?
>>         Sure he made mistakes (one of which was probably sticking around 3
>> or 4 years too long) and he must take his share of the blame for those of
>> the NSWRL and ARL but without his contibution who knows how the game would
>> have emerged from those dark days of the early eighties. Certainly no
>> better. Perhaps he is correct and now the time is right for him to step
>> aside and allow new ideas and fresh *** to fill his place. All I can say
>> is if that fresh *** is half as good as what it replaces then the game
>> will surely emerge from this new dark age to once again rule supreme as
>> the greatest game of all.
>>         So anyway, from this league supporter at least, thanks John
>> Qualye. I wish you well in all your future endeavours.

>> Catchya round, Leigh (desparately hoping all that didn't sound too corny)

>> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
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>Spare us please.  What a load of rubbish.  All Queenslanders should
>remember the days when even our newspaper organised facsimile sheets to
>be sent to Quayle blaming him for the gross injustice done to
>Queenslanders in terms of the State of Origin and the King.

>Good riddance Quayle, it will be a good day when Arko follows.  Hail the
>King, we want Wally as the Top Man of the ARL.

Spare us please. Injustice to Queenslanders. Go back through the
records and look at how long it took for NSW to be given two home
games during an Origin competition. Compare how many times NSW
gave up one of their home games so one could be played outside of
NSW and QLD, and compare the total number of home games each state
has staged since 1980. Then you may see some injustice.

I hope the last statement was a joke. The last thing we need is
the appointment of anyone to the top job who could be perceived as
being biased towards one group over another. Notice I said perceived,
not actual bias, as no proof has ever been found of the current
administration.

PeterC

 
 
 

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Post by Leigh Gillespi » Thu, 14 Nov 1996 04:00:00

Quote:


> >         Now I'm sure there will be many amongst us spouting off with all
> > sorts of ***celebrating Mr Quayle's departure but I urge those who would
> > make such comments to think back on what he has done for the game. It has
> > been a most remarkable journey for the game under the stewardship of John
> > Qualye and Arko and even more so from such a sorry position. Back `83 it
> > was a game in chaos (not too much unlike the current situation) with
> > declining attendances, gross financial mismanagement and the odd hint of
> > high level corruption. In the following decade the game in Australian
> > experienced its most prosperous period ever and despite recent events we
> > can never take credit for that away from Messers Qualye and Arthurson.
> >         So I'd just like to express my gratitude to Mr Quayle for all he
> > has done for the great game. Without his contribution to the
> > administration of Australian (NSW) RL during the mid to late eighties it
> > is very unlikely that league would be anywhere near the national game that
> > has become today. We may not have seen the historic expansion beyoud NSW
> > in 1988 and then further into NZ and WA in `95. We may not have seen the
> > record support and profits (which made the game so interesting for
> > Murdoch) or the great sight of 87,000 Victorians packing out the MCG for
> > origin. Who would have believed back in 1983?
> >         Sure he made mistakes (one of which was probably sticking around 3
> > or 4 years too long) and he must take his share of the blame for those of
> > the NSWRL and ARL but without his contibution who knows how the game would
> > have emerged from those dark days of the early eighties. Certainly no
> > better. Perhaps he is correct and now the time is right for him to step
> > aside and allow new ideas and fresh *** to fill his place. All I can say
> > is if that fresh *** is half as good as what it replaces then the game
> > will surely emerge from this new dark age to once again rule supreme as
> > the greatest game of all.
> >         So anyway, from this league supporter at least, thanks John
> > Qualye. I wish you well in all your future endeavours.

> > Catchya round, Leigh (desparately hoping all that didn't sound too corny)

> Spare us please.  What a load of rubbish.  All Queenslanders should
> remember the days when even our newspaper organised facsimile sheets to
> be sent to Quayle blaming him for the gross injustice done to
> Queenslanders in terms of the State of Origin and the King.

        The newspaper in question (The Courier/Sunday Mail) is nothing
short of a disgrace to this state and its people. To hold virtually
anything this paper has printed as some sort of m***standard of fairness
and justice is just plain laughable. It is not a "news" paper but a
"tabloid" paper in the finest tradition of the word. Usually objective
truth is lost to subjective patriotism and the emotive Queensland slant
which is so attractive to those whose brains hurt at the slighest thought
of the real world.
        The most recent attack on Quayle and the ARL (the "C'mon Mr
Quayle" story) was hipocracy at it's finest. On one hand they were calling
for the ARL not to prop clubs up, continually bashing them on the subject,
and the next they're attacking them for not proping up the Crushers
(issuing paper badges to incite the readers to back their hipocritical
stance and blame the ARL for the Crushers problems).
        And the organised facsimile campaign that you mention was
absolutely disgusting. Instead of calling for constructive criticism
(which might have actually achieved something) concerning a few valid
gripes they appealed to the lowest common deniminator (the hooligan
element). They incited a wave of mindless abuse that achieved absolutely
nothing except selling a few more papers (they're only real concern) and
entrenching the us against them mentality (on both sides). Is it any
wonder that the message was lost amongst the moves to prevent a repeat of
the abuse directed at ARL staff?

Quote:
> Good riddance Quayle, it will be a good day when Arko follows.  Hail the
> King, we want Wally as the Top Man of the ARL.

        As I said in the opeaning to my original post many will spout off
with all sorts of ***and you have done a fine job in proving me right.
If you disagree with my assessment then feel free to re***my points but
from what I have read above you have said nothing that shows those points
to be any less significant (apart from saying "rubbish" - real convincing).
Instead you have have only done yourself disservice.

Catchya round, Leigh

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Post by Paul Conde » Thu, 14 Nov 1996 04:00:00

I agree.

Without John Quayle and Ken Arthurson the game would still be in the
doldrums of the early eighties.

Instead, we have the Greatest Game of All.

Personally, I think that the reasons given for the Superleague aren't
valid.  The last two years have seen more teams in the running for the
finals in the last few weeks than every before.

Rupert could have outbid Packer when the rights came up a few years ago.
He didn't and then couldn't be patient enough to wait for the contracted
rights to come up again.  Unethical at least.

Also, makes you wonder what a Superleague win will be worth next year.  Say
if Auckland win the Superleague they will have only won the second division
as they won't have beat Manly or St George.  At least when Parramatta win
next year we will be the first division champs.

Once again a big Thank You John Quayle for all your efforts.  Sorry that
greed, disloyalty and unethical behavoiur took the shine off a great
career.  Maybe you would like to come to New Zealand and help us build up a
first division team.

Paul Conder
Whakatane, NZ



Quote:

.....
>    So anyway, from this league supporter at least, thanks John
> Qualye. I wish you well in all your future endeavours.

> Catchya round, Leigh (desparately hoping all that didn't sound too corny)

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Post by Brett Abrah » Thu, 14 Nov 1996 04:00:00


Quote:
>        The newspaper in question (The Courier/Sunday Mail) is nothing
>short of a disgrace to this state and its people. To hold virtually
>anything this paper has printed as some sort of m***standard of fairness
>and justice is just plain laughable. It is not a "news" paper but a
>"tabloid" paper in the finest tradition of the word. Usually objective
>truth is lost to subjective patriotism and the emotive Queensland slant
>which is so attractive to those whose brains hurt at the slighest thought
>of the real world.
>        The most recent attack on Quayle and the ARL (the "C'mon Mr
>Quayle" story) was hipocracy at it's finest. On one hand they were calling
>for the ARL not to prop clubs up, continually bashing them on the subject,
>and the next they're attacking them for not proping up the Crushers
>(issuing paper badges to incite the readers to back their hipocritical
>stance and blame the ARL for the Crushers problems).
>        And the organised facsimile campaign that you mention was
>absolutely disgusting. Instead of calling for constructive criticism
>(which might have actually achieved something) concerning a few valid
>gripes they appealed to the lowest common deniminator (the hooligan
>element). They incited a wave of mindless abuse that achieved absolutely
>nothing except selling a few more papers (they're only real concern) and
>entrenching the us against them mentality (on both sides). Is it any
>wonder that the message was lost amongst the moves to prevent a repeat of
>the abuse directed at ARL staff?

Too right!  The way peoples (naive and gullible) opinions on RL are
manipulated by this rag is disgusting.  The Courier Mail has a lot to
answer for in what it has pushed onto the general public :(
 
 
 

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Post by cheka.. » Fri, 15 Nov 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

>Too right!  The way peoples (naive and gullible) opinions on RL are
>manipulated by this rag is disgusting.  The Courier Mail has a lot to
>answer for in what it has pushed onto the general public :(

Of course this is the case not only re RL and not only by this paper.
Those of us in Sydney may well remember the way the Telegraph (prior
to the SL business) were the well-oiled propaganda arm of Phillip St
and attempted to silence any and all critics of the ARL by similar
vile methods that were mentioned above (eg the North Sydney smoking
ads ban, the attacks on Warren Boland for having a contrary opinion
re the use of and testing for recreational ***).
Eugene
 
 
 

Thanks John Quayle

Post by Dan Molon » Fri, 15 Nov 1996 04:00:00


<SNIP>

Quote:
>I do believe Quayle (and Arko) had the best interests of the game at heart,
>and credit to them for that. I do feel though that they lost the plot
>somewhere along the way. Ergo, the game is now in the state that you
>described prior to Quayle's miracles (falling attendances, loss of interest
>etc.).

>I can't help reading between the lines here. I heard a rumour (REPEAT -
>RUMOUR this is not presented as FACT so keep your flames at the end of your
>Winfields) that the ARL was ready to do a deal with News Corp some time
>ago. News Corp were happy to keep Arko on as Chief Executive but had no
>time or place for Quayle. With Quayle's departure (at a rather odd time in
>ARL history and for no apparent reason) is this the ARL board making way to
>stitch things up for one comp next year? The scenario would be:

>1. Arthurson no. 1.
>2. Ribot no. 2.
>3. A two tiered comp pending the inevitable mergers etc or too many Sydney
>clubs.
>4. Channel 9 retaining FTA TV rights (note no deal yet on SL FTA rights).
>5. OV and Foxtel sharing PAY rights - probably both carriers showing
>"prominent" games, OV having the rest, and Foxtel having the
>Australian/European playoffs.

>As a one time physics student, cause and effect comes into play. With
>Quayle's departure we can only wonder at the cause and speculate on the
>effect. You have my OPINION, others are welcome, but don't tell me mine is
>wrong until you have PROOF.

There is no doubt that a compromise will be the best thing that can happen,
however i hope point 2 does not come about. John Ribot has already shown
what appears to be all the bad traits that everyone was labeling Quayle and
Arko as having. I dont really care who is the CEO, as long as Ribot is not
involved in the hierachy. As other people have said, IMHO, the best person
would be a trained business administrator, not a footballer turned
bussinessperson.

Cheers
Dan
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