No Relegation - SL3

No Relegation - SL3

Post by Lloyd J. Barkha » Tue, 25 Nov 1997 04:00:00


I read in yesterdays Sunday Mirror that there will be no relegation at
the end of SL3. However, it says, this does not mean that there will be
no promotion from Division 1.

As far as I can see though, if Paris is readmitted and a new South Wales
side brought in and a team promoted that would make at least 15 teams.

Any thoughts?
--
Lloyd


 
 
 

No Relegation - SL3

Post by Stephen M » Tue, 25 Nov 1997 04:00:00


: I read in yesterdays Sunday Mirror that there will be no relegation at
: the end of SL3. However, it says, this does not mean that there will be
: no promotion from Division 1.

: As far as I can see though, if Paris is readmitted and a new South Wales
: side brought in and a team promoted that would make at least 15 teams.

It could be that 2 teams will leave the Superleague after SL3, just not  
necessarily the bottom two. Could Framing the Future finally be rearing
it's ugly head?  

: Any thoughts?

I'm not convinced it's a good plan. It has some advantages though.
I can see the financial damage the quest for promotion and relegation has
done. But what about the damage done to clubs who get stuck at the top or
bottom, and can't go anywhere?

: --
: Lloyd


--

Cheers

Stephen

 
 
 

No Relegation - SL3

Post by M.A. Jamies » Tue, 25 Nov 1997 04:00:00



Quote:

>: I read in yesterdays Sunday Mirror that there will be no relegation at
>: the end of SL3. However, it says, this does not mean that there will be
>: no promotion from Division 1.

>: As far as I can see though, if Paris is readmitted and a new South Wales
>: side brought in and a team promoted that would make at least 15 teams.

>It could be that 2 teams will leave the Superleague after SL3, just not  
>necessarily the bottom two. Could Framing the Future finally be rearing
>it's ugly head?  

>: Any thoughts?

>I'm not convinced it's a good plan. It has some advantages though.
>I can see the financial damage the quest for promotion and relegation has
>done. But what about the damage done to clubs who get stuck at the top or
>bottom, and can't go anywhere?

>: --
>: Lloyd



I think rather than get rid of promotion and relagation, we should
compenstate the club going down, by phasing out their SL monies, therefore
giving them time to adjust.  We need promotion and relagation, so that we
have competion for all not just the few at the top of SL.

Matt a SL Giant.

 
 
 

No Relegation - SL3

Post by Steve Morri » Tue, 25 Nov 1997 04:00:00



Quote:

>: I read in yesterdays Sunday Mirror that there will be no relegation at
>: the end of SL3. However, it says, this does not mean that there will be
>: no promotion from Division 1.

>: As far as I can see though, if Paris is readmitted and a new South Wales
>: side brought in and a team promoted that would make at least 15 teams.

>It could be that 2 teams will leave the Superleague after SL3, just not  
>necessarily the bottom two. Could Framing the Future finally be rearing
>it's ugly head?  

>: Any thoughts?

>I'm not convinced it's a good plan. It has some advantages though.
>I can see the financial damage the quest for promotion and relegation has
>done. But what about the damage done to clubs who get stuck at the top or
>bottom, and can't go anywhere?

I agree that simply pulling up the drawbridge is not the answer. I see
the problems of bad housekeeping associated with clubs throwing money
away trying to get promotion or stave off relegation.

If there were some objective standards lay down as criteria for
promotion:      Salary Cap
                Stadia
                Attendances
                Income Growth
                Youth Development  

Then the team finishing top of Div 1 who performed better (pro-rata)
than the bottom club in SL should be promoted.

Steve Talcum                                    "If its worth saying don't waste
                                                 your breath on Usenet"  

 
 
 

No Relegation - SL3

Post by John Hull » Tue, 25 Nov 1997 04:00:00

It's surely difficult for a club to attract sponsorship, and for that club
to feel able to make long term investment in school and youth development
unless it has some sense of security about its future. The threat of
relegation does little for long term planning.

I agree that clubs which come up with a sound, long term business plan
together with plans to invest in local development should replace badly
administered clubs with no aims other than satisfying the egos of their
chairmen.

John

Steve Morris wrote in article ...>I agree that simply pulling up the
drawbridge is not the answer. I see

Quote:
>the problems of bad housekeeping associated with clubs throwing money
>away trying to get promotion or stave off relegation.

>If there were some objective standards lay down as criteria for
>promotion:      Salary Cap
>                Stadia
>                Attendances
>                Income Growth
>                Youth Development

>Then the team finishing top of Div 1 who performed better (pro-rata)
>than the bottom club in SL should be promoted.

>Steve Talcum                                    "If its worth saying don't
waste
>                                                 your breath on Usenet"

 
 
 

No Relegation - SL3

Post by John Drak » Tue, 25 Nov 1997 04:00:00

Quote:

>I read in yesterdays Sunday Mirror that there will be no relegation at
>the end of SL3. However, it says, this does not mean that there will be
>no promotion from Division 1.

>As far as I can see though, if Paris is readmitted and a new South Wales
>side brought in and a team promoted that would make at least 15 teams.

>Any thoughts?

Yep, it's the RFL doing things backwards again. Isn't it typical that they
decide to s***relegation from SL only weeks after disbanding the club
which would have had the most to gain from such a policy?

They have spent approx 1.75 million of Murdoch's money in Paris, to give
the "European" SL a sheen of credibility, but instead of spending it to
properly establish the PSG operation, and underwriting its SL existence for
a set period while it built up support (which would have been good for the
ESL and for French RL generally), it was thrown away (by English
administrators, lest we forget!) on two "avoid relegation" campaigns, the
second of which was pointless anyway given that they were ditched despite
avoiding the drop, and despite being the 5th best supported team in the
comp.

Now the SL is composed exclusively of English based clubs, the drawbridge is
being pulled up. Aaaarghh!!!

We seem to be well on the way back to a 14 (maybe even 16) team division,
loads of crappy, pointless fixtures, small town clubs all within a stones
throw of each other, waiting for the Aussies to give us a good hiding every
couple of years and moaning that the media ignores us. Small ***y wonder,
really.

Global Vision? They can't see further than next week. By which time this
policy will have changed anyway. It has all the hallmarks of something
straight of the top of Maurice's head.

If we want an ESL worthy of the name (please, yes!) which means big city
clubs playing big games week in week out in the full glare of the media
spotlight, the crazy gang at Red Hall are going to have to do better than
making a right decision, but two years late.

I think the saying "locking the stable door after the horse has bolted" just
about sums it up.

John
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No Relegation - SL3

Post by NJASHT » Wed, 26 Nov 1997 04:00:00

No Relegation
I cannot understand the problem with relegation and promotion
its only the advent of SL that has meant that relegated clubs end
up going bust.All the Murdoch money has simply gone into
players pockets plus extra as well.The credability of RL's management is truely
at an all time low and I dread to think what
ill conceived ideas will be thought up next.

                                    Steve ashton

 
 
 

No Relegation - SL3

Post by KBowen91 » Mon, 01 Dec 1997 04:00:00

Play rugby Union?
Keith - Cougar Fan