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Post by Vibrating Bum-Faced Goa » Sat, 06 Jan 1996 04:00:00




: : Keighley lost to Saints in the Regal Trophy live on BBC a few weeks ago, losing by a 20
: : point gap- this was when Keighley were (although still are) riddled by injuries.  
: : The next day I read in The Sun Mike Stephensons' column (Stevo) where he
: : publically ridiculed Keighley for losing by 20 points,( although we did score 14
: : in reply ) - What now Stevo ? Warrington nilled, and thrashed by 80 points - surely proof
: : that Keighley are a good side and deserve to be up there along with Widnes &
: : Salford

: : I propose this promotion- who agrees & disagrees - I would be pleased to hear from
: : you.

Ryan, your dad has spent much of the last year arguing in favour of the
promotion and relegation criteria to be based on merit. Don't you think
suggesting promotion for Keighley on the basis of Warrington having an
off-night (albeit remarkably 'off') is undermining that position just a
tad?

: As for when was the last time a mid/top table team beat another by a large
: margin - remember the Premiership final last year???? Do you suggest Leeds
: be relegated?

I think most people would support that, provided it was coupled with
confiscation of assets and their subsequent fair distribution.

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Post by A Maye (Keyworth Institu » Sat, 06 Jan 1996 04:00:00

: May I just thank the Chemics so very much for beating Salford last night.  That has flung
: the division one championship wide open yet again, and at least gives this rather dull
: centenary season some e***ment.  
: I ask myself what exactly will the Super League actually do for the game ?  We saw the
: debacle at Knowsley Road last night; never before have we seen a mid table team
: being beaten by another top/mid team.  I think that there is some tough talking to be
: done... on the appearance they should perhaps promote Keighley, Salford & Widnes
: into the top dvision, because surely we can play better than the Warringtons of
: this world.

: Keighley lost to Saints in the Regal Trophy live on BBC a few weeks ago, losing by a 20
: point gap- this was when Keighley were (although still are) riddled by injuries.  
: The next day I read in The Sun Mike Stephensons' column (Stevo) where he
: publically ridiculed Keighley for losing by 20 points,( although we did score 14
: in reply ) - What now Stevo ? Warrington nilled, and thrashed by 80 points - surely proof
: that Keighley are a good side and deserve to be up there along with Widnes &
: Salford

: I propose this promotion- who agrees & disagrees - I would be pleased to hear from
: you.

No - last nights result and Keighley's result against Saints doesn't prove
a thing. They were one off cup games. One team was (vastly) superior to
another *on the night*. Do you honestly think that Keighley could be flung
into the top flight and do as well/better than Warrington over the length
of a season? I don't think they could at first attempt. I'm not saying here
that they shouldn't be given the chance, however. I think they have been
badly treated by the RFL. And I didn't agree with what Stevo said. All I'm
saying is that it would take a few seasons for Keighley to adjust and they'd
be close to the bottom for a couple of years, although they could trouble the
top teams in one off cup games. If they were to play Warrington in 10 games at
the present, I'd back Warrington to win at least 8 of them. You just can't
judge teams from one off cup ties.

I hope Keighley do well in the future and find their way into the Super
League and are a success, together with Salford, Featherstone, etc. but I
think your in Dreamland if you think they'd take it by storm over night.
Hopefully however, there is promotion/relegation and then you'll be given the
chance.

As for when was the last time a mid/top table team beat another by a large
margin - remember the Premiership final last year???? Do you suggest Leeds
be relegated?

: -- Ryan


Cheers,

Andrew.
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Post by Ryan O'Neil » Sat, 06 Jan 1996 04:00:00


Quote:
Bum-Faced Goats) writes:

> : : Keighley lost to Saints in the Regal Trophy live on BBC a few weeks ago, losing by a 20
> : : point gap- this was when Keighley were (although still are) riddled by injuries.  
> : : The next day I read in The Sun Mike Stephensons' column (Stevo) where he
> : : publically ridiculed Keighley for losing by 20 points,( although we did score 14
> : : in reply ) - What now Stevo ? Warrington nilled, and thrashed by 80 points - surely proof
> : : that Keighley are a good side and deserve to be up there along with Widnes &
> : : Salford

> : : I propose this promotion- who agrees & disagrees - I would be pleased to hear from
> : : you.

> Ryan, your dad has spent much of the last year arguing in favour of the
> promotion and relegation criteria to be based on merit. Don't you think
> suggesting promotion for Keighley on the basis of Warrington having an
> off-night (albeit remarkably 'off') is undermining that position just a
> tad?

> : As for when was the last time a mid/top table team beat another by a large
> : margin - remember the Premiership final last year???? Do you suggest Leeds
> : be relegated?

> I think most people would support that, provided it was coupled with
> confiscation of assets and their subsequent fair distribution.

Chris,  I do see your point that there cannot be promotion simply on the face of the fact that
Warrington lost in such a shocking manor.  This was not exactly the point that I made, I believe
that I did not express myself clearly.  I feel that the Super League is not large enough to
encourage an overall competition of equal teams.  We have been seeing for the last few years
the *** of Wigan, and all credit to them. But this is because they are simply awash with
talent; talent that is not affordable for the other 11 clubs.  With a larger league ( following the
promotion of the likes of Kly, Widnes & Salf) we would be able to see more finance going around,
as there would be more transfers - at the moment the quality players are only moving within the
Super League.  That is what I was trying to expres. Obviously it would be ludicracy to relegate
Warrington and promote the others simply on the basis of a one off massacre; I think that the
Super League should be larger so that we have something similar to the FA Carling Premiership
ni Football.

Regards


I think that it would be worth pointing out that these are MY views and are neither influenced nor
reflect those of my father.

 
 
 

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Post by Ryan O'Neil » Sat, 06 Jan 1996 04:00:00

May I just thank the Chemics so very much for beating Salford last night.  That has flung
the division one championship wide open yet again, and at least gives this rather dull
centenary season some e***ment.  
I ask myself what exactly will the Super League actually do for the game ?  We saw the
debacle at Knowsley Road last night; never before have we seen a mid table team
being beaten by another top/mid team.  I think that there is some tough talking to be
done... on the appearance they should perhaps promote Keighley, Salford & Widnes
into the top dvision, because surely we can play better than the Warringtons of
this world.

Keighley lost to Saints in the Regal Trophy live on BBC a few weeks ago, losing by a 20
point gap- this was when Keighley were (although still are) riddled by injuries.  
The next day I read in The Sun Mike Stephensons' column (Stevo) where he
publically ridiculed Keighley for losing by 20 points,( although we did score 14
in reply ) - What now Stevo ? Warrington nilled, and thrashed by 80 points - surely proof
that Keighley are a good side and deserve to be up there along with Widnes &
Salford

I propose this promotion- who agrees & disagrees - I would be pleased to hear from
you.

-- Ryan


 
 
 

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Post by A Maye (Keyworth Institu » Sat, 06 Jan 1996 04:00:00


: : As for when was the last time a mid/top table team beat another by a large
: : margin - remember the Premiership final last year???? Do you suggest Leeds
: : be relegated?

: I think most people would support that, provided it was coupled with
: confiscation of assets and their subsequent fair distribution.

Yeah - I thought it was a stupid question at the time ;)

: Chris Russell           | Rugby League Home Page:

Andrew.

 
 
 

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Post by Paul McNall » Mon, 08 Jan 1996 04:00:00



Quote:
>May I just thank the Chemics so very much for beating Salford last night.  That
>has flung
>the division one championship wide open yet again,

For 3 days at least! Thank you Hull for your last minute defence!

--
Paul

 
 
 

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Post by Gary Austi » Tue, 09 Jan 1996 04:00:00


writes:

Quote:



> >May I just thank the Chemics so very much for beating Salford last night.  That
> >has flung
> >the division one championship wide open yet again,

> For 3 days at least! Thank you Hull for your last minute defence!

> --
> Paul

When will you learn? You haven't done it yet. You still have to win one more game!

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