Lyons red-carded

Lyons red-carded

Post by John Turne » Mon, 24 Jul 2006 04:18:31


It looks like Ashley Klown is the only ref taking any notice of this edict
on late challenges on a player kicking in open play.  I guess it's a matter
of opinion whether you reckon Jamie Lyons should have been red-carded for
his challenge on Rob Burrows, but there does seem to be a great difference
in the way that referees are handling such challenges.

Personally I think the whole thing sucks, and we're in danger of allowing
challenge-free positional kicking if taken to the the extreme.  How long
before tackling is outlawed and we end up with a puffters game like soccer
has become.

John.

 
 
 

Lyons red-carded

Post by Wirral Sain » Mon, 24 Jul 2006 06:47:50

Leeds coach Tony Smith said,

"I thought Jamie Lyon was very unlucky to be red-carded. He doesn't
have any intent to do anything sinister and I've seen a lot worse this
year."

Verdict of rfl should be sending off sufficient, "You are free my son
to play in the semi final". Lets hope they do the right thing!

 
 
 

Lyons red-carded

Post by Mr.Wil » Mon, 24 Jul 2006 08:33:29

I think its all about whether the play is considered dangerous or not. If a
player is kicking and in a weak position and the opposition see it as a
cheap shot, Im all for red cards.

Funny thing - I saw some old BBC footage of a Widness v Wigan game. The game
was riddled with fouls and it was so slow and muddy!
Interestingly enough a player got sent off on that one too for a late
challenge - this one was far more blatant than Lyon - the player kicked and
suddenly this guy came in with a flying clothesline and took his head off!

Alot of penalties for flops as well, really really late ones, not like the
ones now where its penalised for simply putting your hands on a tackled
player.

I guess my only point here is that the game seems to have moved on somewhat
as a result of these rules so fair enough.

Mr.Will


Quote:
> It looks like Ashley Klown is the only ref taking any notice of this edict
> on late challenges on a player kicking in open play.  I guess it's a
> matter of opinion whether you reckon Jamie Lyons should have been
> red-carded for his challenge on Rob Burrows, but there does seem to be a
> great difference in the way that referees are handling such challenges.

> Personally I think the whole thing sucks, and we're in danger of allowing
> challenge-free positional kicking if taken to the the extreme.  How long
> before tackling is outlawed and we end up with a puffters game like soccer
> has become.

> John.


 
 
 

Lyons red-carded

Post by JP » Mon, 24 Jul 2006 18:49:51


Quote:
> It looks like Ashley Klown is the only ref taking any notice of this edict
> on late challenges on a player kicking in open play.  I guess it's a
> matter of opinion whether you reckon Jamie Lyons should have been
> red-carded for his challenge on Rob Burrows, but there does seem to be a
> great difference in the way that referees are handling such challenges.

> Personally I think the whole thing sucks, and we're in danger of allowing
> challenge-free positional kicking if taken to the the extreme.  How long
> before tackling is outlawed and we end up with a puffters game like soccer
> has become.

> John.

What ever happened to the rules of the game?
Every so often we have so called 'edicts' sent from on high,  that x,y and z
must be watched for and penalised.
Did I miss sometihng wasnt x,y and z already covered in the rules of the
game?
So what are the consequencies of these 'edicts'
We then  get inconsistencies from referees as each tries to interpret what
has changed and how they are told they have to react 'differently' to
situations.

Do players get a copy of these edicts?
As a qualified coach I've never reached anything from the RFL
What price any speccies getting a copy?

I sat ban edicts, talk about it at the end of the season, bring in new rules
if needed, communicate it to referees, players,  coaches and fans.
At least that way we all might have a clue as to what the hell is going on
out there.

I've never seen a more innocuous challenge get red carded.
Good to see full ***ed head high challenges are still allowed without a
red card.

But then I'm only a speccy and qualified coach who has never heard of the
latest  'edict.'
So what would I know

 
 
 

Lyons red-carded

Post by Erni » Mon, 24 Jul 2006 19:34:02

I think at best it should have been put on report and penalty given or at
worst yellow and penalty it defiantly did not warrant a red. If it had been
Hooper then maybe because he must do at least one late challenge a game but
seams to get away with it week in week out. Having played at 7 I know just
how dangerous they can be but Lyon is not generally a dirty player so on
report or just a penalty would have sufficed.
Ernie
 
 
 

Lyons red-carded

Post by Glynnpo » Tue, 25 Jul 2006 00:19:39

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Lyons red-carded

Post by JP » Tue, 25 Jul 2006 05:25:19


Quote:
> http://video.tinypic.com/player.php?v=20rtduo

brilliant!