Telstra Cup - Round 3 Results

Telstra Cup - Round 3 Results

Post by Leigh Gillespi » Tue, 18 Mar 1997 04:00:00


        "AUSTRALIA - You f*#&ken beauty!" as that famous cricket song
goes. Ah gee, sorry just got a bit carried away there with the great win
by the boys in South Africa to wrap up the series. And onto what really
matters, it's back to you Richie in the central commentary position (oh
dear there I go again)...

* Friday, March 14th 1997

   ADELAIDE 10 def HUNTER 8 at Adelaide Oval
          Adelaide: Tries - Blair
                    Goals - Wrigley 3
          Hunter: Tries - Thompson
                  Goals - Zizti 2
          Referee: B Grant
          Attendance: 27,435

        Don't know much about the match but what about that crowd
(incidently the largest debut crowd ever)? Now I know a fair slice of that
was probably attracted by the novelty factor but if the game can turn just
half those people into regular supporters then we'll have a great base to
build what surely will be a great team of the future. Well done to the
Rams and the people of Adelaide.

* Saturday, March 15th 1997

   PENRITH 19 def NORTH QUEENSLAND 12 at Stockland Stadium, Townsville
          Penrith: Tries - Hinson 2, Domic
                   Goals - Girdler 3
                   Field Goals - Alexander
          North Queensland: Tries - Warren, Phillips
                            Goals - Phillips 2
          Referee: T Mander
          Attendance: 18,003

        Well it was the Cowboys of old back again. Actually that's being
too nice. The Cowboys of 1995 would've beaten the side that took the field
on Saturday night. In a word - pathetic. The only thing I'm left wondering
is whether the score was so close due to an outstanding defensive effort
by NQ or because Penrith were almost as bad. Should've been 30-0, enough
said. About the only good sign to come out of the match is was the
improved turnaround time for the video replay. Someones finally worked out
that if you look at the front angle first then nine times out of ten you
won't need to look any further. Definitely the way it should be done.

* Sunday, March 16th 1997

   CANTERBURY 38 def CANBERRA 26 at Belmore Sports Ground
          Canterbury: Tries - Ryan 2, Mar***e, Norton,
                              Gillies, J Hetherington
                      Goals - Halligan 7
          Canberra: Tries - Nadruku 2, Payten, Clyde, B Hetherington
                    Goals - O'Neill 2, Furner
          Referee: B Harrigan
          Attendance: 9,025

        I still haven't got around to watching this match yet so I haven't
really got much to add. Sufice to say the early signs from the capital
are not good and with the suposed showcase match against the Broncos
coming up next Monday the SL heavies must be starting to get a bit worried
too. Despite the improved performances from sides like Penrith and Perth
they just can't afford to have one of their glamour clubs letting the side
down.

   BRISBANE 26 def PERTH 16 at WACA Ground, Perth
          Brisbane: Tries - Sailor, Lockyer, Langer, Smith
                    Goals - Lockyer 5
          Perth: Tries - Ryan, Bell, Wilson
                 Goals - O'Neill 2
          Referee: S Clark
          Attendance: 11,109

        The Perth side have made a very impressive start to this season
and in this match they gave the favourites a real fright. If the Reds can
keep this form up they're going to give a lot of teams a lot of headaches
this season.

* Monday, March 17th 1997

   CRONULLA 34 def AUCKLAND 8 at Shark Park
          Cronulla: Tries - Treister, Peachey, Bell, Lee
                    Goals - Rogers 6
          Auckland: Tries - Betts
                    Goals - Ridge
          Referee: G Annesley
          Attendance: 16,860

        A pretty good match in which the final scoreline was not a really
a fair indication of how close it was. But all that was overshadowed by
*that* decision. Was it the first real video replay error? Just about
everybody, spectators, players and commentators thought it wasn't a try
and much as I hate to admit it (being a supporter of the innovation) I
have to agree. Matthew Ridge's attempt to ground the ball in his own in
goal did bounce but IMO there is little doubt that he grounded the ball
with pressure to one end of it first. But  the subsequent "grounding" by
the Cronulla player was ruled a try by the video ref and IMO SL have a
bit of a public relations nightmare on their hands. As Sterlo said "thank
god it wasn't the decider". So the question left to be asked, how the hell
did the video ref reach that decision?!?! Oh and while I'm here how `bout
that *other* try? Easily the best of the season thus far IMO.

* Points Table - After three rounds...

                   W  D  L   PF  PA Pts
 CRONULLA          3  -  -   73  24   6
 BRISBANE          3  -  -   68  30   6
 PENRITH           3  -  -   82  52   6
 CANTERBURY        2  -  1   70  55   4
 NORTH QUEENSLAND  1  -  2   56  57   2
 Perth             1  -  2   58  76   2
 Adelaide          1  -  2   38  60   2
 Auckland          1  -  2   28  66   2
 Hunter            -  -  3   38  48   0
 Canberra          -  -  3   50  97   0

Catchya round, Leigh

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Telstra Cup - Round 3 Results

Post by James Smi » Wed, 19 Mar 1997 04:00:00

Quote:
Leigh Gillespie writes:
>    But all that was overshadowed by
> *that* decision. Was it the first real video replay error? Just about
> everybody, spectators, players and commentators thought it wasn't a try
> and much as I hate to admit it (being a supporter of the innovation) I
> have to agree. Matthew Ridge's attempt to ground the ball in his own in
> goal did bounce but IMO there is little doubt that he grounded the ball
> with pressure to one end of it first.

I think the video people got it right. It looked to me like he dived
forward, grabbed the ball, then dropped it before it touched the ground.
The fact that it slipped out of his hand and so he landed on his hand
rather than the ball as he was expecting would account for his shoulder.

Jim
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Post by Kurt Brow » Thu, 20 Mar 1997 04:00:00

Quote:

< snip >

>         A pretty good match in which the final scoreline was not a really
> a fair indication of how close it was. But all that was overshadowed by
> *that* decision. Was it the first real video replay error? Just about
> everybody, spectators, players and commentators thought it wasn't a try
> and much as I hate to admit it (being a supporter of the innovation) I
> have to agree. Matthew Ridge's attempt to ground the ball in his own in
> goal did bounce but IMO there is little doubt that he grounded the ball
> with pressure to one end of it first. But  the subsequent "grounding" by
> the Cronulla player was ruled a try by the video ref and IMO SL have a
> bit of a public relations nightmare on their hands. As Sterlo said "thank
> god it wasn't the decider".

I think this argument, "it wasn't the decider" ignores the pyschological
impact that a try has on a team. Just as Auckland would have suffered
going into half time, when they could have been up 6-4, but instead were
down 10-6 (btw, that try had a hint of a shepherd in it for me, but
that's another story...).

Playing well, as Auckland were for a change, and then to have that
decision go against you and Ridge forced from the field, would have
shattered any chance of a Warriors comeback. Watching the game just
reinforces this view, as the Warriors were only a plae imitation of
themselves from that moment on.

I think the same argument can be used in teh GF last year, in that
Saints went into half time 12-2, instead of 6-2, after a similar bad
decision.

Then again, that was Ridge, so maybe this is just an incident of
football Karma...

Quote:
>So the question left to be asked, how the hell
> did the video ref reach that decision?!?! Oh and while I'm here how `bout
> that *other* try? Easily the best of the season thus far IMO.

As much as it pains me I have to agree. Provided you are talking about
Auckland's other try...

 
 
 

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Post by Michael Burk » Sat, 22 Mar 1997 04:00:00

Quote:

>I think the video people got it right. It looked to me like he dived
>forward, grabbed the ball, then dropped it before it touched the ground.
>The fact that it slipped out of his hand and so he landed on his hand
>rather than the ball as he was expecting would account for his shoulder.

Wow!  Me too, JimS.  I agree with you.  I thought Ridge never had
control of it.