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by **Antonioni P** » Fri, 19 Sep 1997 04:00:00

O.k. nice dream. I dream it too. Here's a medium term scenario.....

The merged competition in Australia results in 300 odd players being made
redundant (Rugby League Week's estimate based on a 14 team comp). The new
international board makes a commitment to find new places for those
players. As a result it sets up the World Super League competition.
Franchises for the 1999 season are sold on a 5 year tenure system, to
bidders in Spain, USA, Italy, Germany, Canada etc, with a built in plan to
develop local structures during the tenure of the franchises. Possibly a
negotiated deal with the WLAF could ensure no wasteful over duplication of
spending.

The Charity sheild is revived as two matches, one between a Northern
hemisphere ESL side and a WSL side, the level of the opposition picked to
be an even competition, with a similar one in ASL. By the fifth year of
the competition, each side undertakes to be fielding at least 5 locally
developed players.

In 2004 the Barcelona franchise bids to be included in ESL itself. It is
replaced by the new Amsterdam Tokers side in WSL.......

The rest is futurology......

P.J.

by **Paul Matthe** » Fri, 19 Sep 1997 04:00:00

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>The merged competition in Australia results in 300 odd players being made
>redundant (Rugby League Week's estimate based on a 14 team comp). The new
>international board makes a commitment to find new places for those
>players. As a result it sets up the World Super League competition.
>Franchises for the 1999 season are sold on a 5 year tenure system, to
>bidders in Spain, USA, Italy, Germany, Canada etc, with a built in plan to
>develop local structures during the tenure of the franchises. Possibly a
>negotiated deal with the WLAF could ensure no wasteful over duplication of
>spending.

Some good ideas there. A reasonable way to set something up in the medium
term without having to start utterly from scratch.

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>In 2004 the Barcelona franchise bids to be included in ESL itself. It is
>replaced by the new Amsterdam Tokers side in WSL.......

If only...

Paul Matthews
http://www.triton.u-net.com

by **Paul Matthe** » Fri, 19 Sep 1997 04:00:00

On Thu, 18 Sep 1997 11:43:33 +0100, Mr P Halliwell

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>Now you are dreaming too much.

Why? if you are going to drem, dream big - no one ever dreamt anout a
ford escort 1.4l :-)

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>It has been started already between Europe and Australia but has a lack of
>funds.

Needs to be a lot bigger. what about the murdoch money? should this not
be the sort of thing the money should have been used for instaed of
lining players pockets?

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>It'll not happen soon enough. We could already include club teams from
>Tonga, W Samoa etc..

So we could set it up after a fashion for next season then?

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>What ?

How would you feel if ALL of Wigan's away matches were abroad? it would
be expensive for the club and yourself.

Don't you think that it is odd the there is ONE team that has to take a
plane to every away game? The european bit shoud be a separate
competition. let's face it, what has including France done for French RL?
but if there was even a small league, with the winners going on to a
world competition, where fans could get to some away matches...

Paul Matthews
http://www.triton.u-net.com

by **Mr P Halliwel** » Fri, 19 Sep 1997 04:00:00

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> The main season should be a domestic comp only. All teams should be in
> predominalty on merit. relegation between the disvisions to be expected.

With cup comps at the start and end of the season.

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> Similar competitions in place in France, Germany, Italy, Spain, Scotland,
> Australia etc.

Now you are dreaming too much.

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> An International body set up to co-ordinate rules, help countries setting
> up leagues, manage internationals etc,

It has been started already between Europe and Australia but has a lack of
funds.

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> after the main season, then comes world super league. This is where the
> titans come in. The best of each nations teams compete for the crown of
> world champions. The "best" could be decided in a number of ways, but
> must be consistent accross all nations - top two from league, trophy
> winners (a way to bring more interest to the premiership - the league
> champions are excluded, and the prem. winners get the next slot?)
> This way, the domestic competition remains relatively as-is, with the
> international superleague truly international.

It'll not happen soon enough. We could already include club teams from
Tonga, W Samoa etc..

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> You would also hane no european teams that had the silly travelling
> expenses that Paris and their supporter have for every away game.

What ?

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> This would take a lot of work establishing the leagues in countries.

And quite frankley it's a nice dream Pual.
The trouble is lack of money and lack of managerial skill at the top.
I too would like to see more and more countries playing league.
I would like to see a great league setup in France, Scotland, Wales
and Ireland. We may even manage a true 5 nations then.
But I can't see this happening in my lifetime. I hope I'm wrong though.

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by **Antonioni P** » Sat, 20 Sep 1997 04:00:00

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> Date: 19 Sep 1997 09:05:39 GMT

> Newsgroups: rec.sport.rugby.league
> Subject: Re: My "dream" for superleague

> | O.k. nice dream. I dream it too. Here's a medium term scenario.....
> |
> | The merged competition in Australia results in 300 odd players being made
> | redundant (Rugby League Week's estimate based on a 14 team comp). The new
> | international board makes a commitment to find new places for those
> | players. As a result it sets up the World Super League competition.
> | Franchises for the 1999 season are sold on a 5 year tenure system, to
> | bidders in Spain, USA, Italy, Germany, Canada etc, with a built in plan
> to
> | develop local structures during the tenure of the franchises. Possibly a
> | negotiated deal with the WLAF could ensure no wasteful over duplication
> of
> | spending.

> Unfortunately, this 'ideal' relies on someone in each country being
> interested in bidding for a franchise. Even if there are people
> interested, the chances are it would be only one consortium, meaning the
> WSL has no choice but to either accept the single bid or simply give up.

> Parochial I may be, but at least I am a realist. There is absolutely no
> chance whatsoever of this happening in any of our lifetimes.

> I expect a number of replies to this saying things along the lines of
> 'Don't be such a pessimist' or 'Just because you're not in Super League'.

> But just take a step back and look at what you are saying, or am I the
> victim of a practical joke and none of you really mean this as a viable
> plan for the future.

> Sorry to be a killjoy

> Steve

No problemos Steve. You are completely right of course, it's just that
well, even the most hardened realist has to have a dream at some point,
you know like Bolivar or Dan Quayle.

There's probably a germ of sense in there, so don't be too *** it!

P.J.

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P.s. anyone got a better idea for a medium term expansion? Thought not.
Think big once in a while, or we're going to be stuck at the Super League
milk stage.

P.J.

by **Paul Matthe** » Sat, 20 Sep 1997 04:00:00

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>P.s. anyone got a better idea for a medium term expansion? Thought not.
>Think big once in a while, or we're going to be stuck at the Super League
>milk stage.

Have we got that far then? :-)

Paul Matthews
http://www.triton.u-net.com

by **Steve S** » Sat, 20 Sep 1997 04:00:00

| O.k. nice dream. I dream it too. Here's a medium term scenario.....
|
| The merged competition in Australia results in 300 odd players being made
| redundant (Rugby League Week's estimate based on a 14 team comp). The new
| international board makes a commitment to find new places for those
| players. As a result it sets up the World Super League competition.
| Franchises for the 1999 season are sold on a 5 year tenure system, to
| bidders in Spain, USA, Italy, Germany, Canada etc, with a built in plan
to
| develop local structures during the tenure of the franchises. Possibly a
| negotiated deal with the WLAF could ensure no wasteful over duplication
of
| spending.

Unfortunately, this 'ideal' relies on someone in each country being
interested in bidding for a franchise. Even if there are people
interested, the chances are it would be only one consortium, meaning the
WSL has no choice but to either accept the single bid or simply give up.

Parochial I may be, but at least I am a realist. There is absolutely no
chance whatsoever of this happening in any of our lifetimes.

I expect a number of replies to this saying things along the lines of
'Don't be such a pessimist' or 'Just because you're not in Super League'.

But just take a step back and look at what you are saying, or am I the
victim of a practical joke and none of you really mean this as a viable
plan for the future.

Sorry to be a killjoy

Steve

| The Charity sheild is revived as two matches, one between a Northern
| hemisphere ESL side and a WSL side, the level of the opposition picked to
| be an even competition, with a similar one in ASL. By the fifth year of
| the competition, each side undertakes to be fielding at least 5 locally
| developed players.
|
| In 2004 the Barcelona franchise bids to be included in ESL itself. It is
| replaced by the new Amsterdam Tokers side in WSL.......
|
| The rest is futurology......
|
| P.J.
|
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|
|
|

by **Paul Matthe** » Tue, 23 Sep 1997 04:00:00

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>But just take a step back and look at what you are saying, or am I the
>victim of a practical joke and none of you really mean this as a viable
>plan for the future.

If you re-read the tone of postings, I think you will find this thread is
firmly in the "dream" territory. I would love it to come true, but doubt
that it ever will, but I can dream can't I?

Paul Matthews
http://www.triton.u-net.com