Tackling the Problem

Tackling the Problem

Post by AJ KIN » Mon, 09 Nov 1998 04:00:00


The course of play in both tests should show us all that there is a growing
gulf between SL and everyone else in the interpretation of high tackles.
Harrigan refereed as he would in an Aussie game letting the boys get on with
things but watching out for the clearly malicious shots. Contrast this with
what we are seeing in SL lately where every tackle that bounces off a
forearm or shoulder is penalised. Added to which we get the complete
over-reaction of Stevo and we have created a rod for our own backs.

RL is a tough sport played by tough guys, and this is one of the reasons
that we like it. Over recent years the British obsession with authority and
control has led to the restrictions on the players becoming ridiculous to
the point where when the British team meet up with international sides
prepared to play it tough they just can't compete. They have had all of the
more vigorous habits coached out of them to the point where when they find a
referee who is prepared to allow the game to be played as it should they
find themselves incapable of competing.

Don't get me wrong I am not advocating foul play or thuggery - we've seen
plenty of that in the glorious past of this game. What I do want to see is
the players being given their game back and being allowed to play it with
the passion and venom necessary to become World Class again.

Final point, the Kiwis were easily the better side over the course of both
games and it looks like we might struggle to get 10,000 at Watford.

Alf King

 
 
 

Tackling the Problem

Post by Paul Matthe » Tue, 10 Nov 1998 04:00:00

Quote:

>Final point, the Kiwis were easily the better side over the course of both
>games and it looks like we might struggle to get 10,000 at Watford.

Yes, but I think you got an extra 0 in there.
--
Paul Matthews                          

http://www.triton.u-net.com

 
 
 

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Post by Jones » Wed, 11 Nov 1998 04:00:00

Quote:


>>Final point, the Kiwis were easily the better side over the course of both
>>games and it looks like we might struggle to get 10,000 at Watford.

>Yes, but I think you got an extra 0 in there.
>--
>Paul Matthews

Surely your hopping in the same boat that you've put your team in there, a
chance to watch your country do battle even/especially when they are down is
part of standing up and saying this my game, my country and I'm there to
suck up every second  of live RL as I can get. Shit if I cut off a part of
my body for every time I've walked out of a test eyes fixed solidly to
ground I'd be down to my fingernails. And besides being the eternal optimist
I never give up hope of a miracle. You can blame the players , the coach
what ever, the supporters have a duty to hang in there through thick and
thin. Or, of course, you can sit back whinge on ngs.
Jonesy

 
 
 

Tackling the Problem

Post by Debbi » Wed, 11 Nov 1998 04:00:00

I think the title of this message says it all - GB's tackling is a problem!
--
TM
 
 
 

Tackling the Problem

Post by Arthur Py » Wed, 11 Nov 1998 04:00:00



Quote:



>>>Final point, the Kiwis were easily the better side over the course of both
>>>games and it looks like we might struggle to get 10,000 at Watford.

>>Yes, but I think you got an extra 0 in there.
>>--
>>Paul Matthews
>Surely your hopping in the same boat that you've put your team in there, a
>chance to watch your country do battle even/especially when they are down is
>part of standing up and saying this my game, my country and I'm there to
>suck up every second  of live RL as I can get. Shit if I cut off a part of
>my body for every time I've walked out of a test eyes fixed solidly to
>ground I'd be down to my fingernails. And besides being the eternal optimist
>I never give up hope of a miracle. You can blame the players , the coach
>what ever, the supporters have a duty to hang in there through thick and
>thin. Or, of course, you can sit back whinge on ngs.
>Jonesy

Right on this time Jonesy. As this is the only test within reasonable
travelling time for me, I'll be there, and I hope we stuff the Kiwis at
the third attempt.

If not, then I can still admire your guys' skill and professionalism. In
the final analysis, I support the game first and the teams second.
--
Arthur Pye

 
 
 

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Post by Paul Matthe » Thu, 12 Nov 1998 04:00:00

Quote:


>>Surely your hopping in the same boat that you've put your team in there, a
>>chance to watch your country do battle even/especially when they are down is
>>part of standing up and saying this my game, my country and I'm there to
>>suck up every second  of live RL as I can get. Shit if I cut off a part of
>>my body for every time I've walked out of a test eyes fixed solidly to
>>ground I'd be down to my fingernails. And besides being the eternal optimist
>>I never give up hope of a miracle. You can blame the players , the coach
>>what ever, the supporters have a duty to hang in there through thick and
>>thin. Or, of course, you can sit back whinge on ngs.
>>Jonesy

It's a three hour journey each way to get to Watford, when I have other things
to do.
--
Paul Matthews                          

http://www.triton.u-net.com
 
 
 

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Post by tad8 » Fri, 13 Nov 1998 04:00:00

12500 tickets sold as of  Wednesday (Yesterday)
Quote:

> The course of play in both tests should show us all that there is a growing
> gulf between SL and everyone else in the interpretation of high tackles.
> Harrigan refereed as he would in an Aussie game letting the boys get on with
> things but watching out for the clearly malicious shots. Contrast this with
> what we are seeing in SL lately where every tackle that bounces off a
> forearm or shoulder is penalised. Added to which we get the complete
> over-reaction of Stevo and we have created a rod for our own backs.

> RL is a tough sport played by tough guys, and this is one of the reasons
> that we like it. Over recent years the British obsession with authority and
> control has led to the restrictions on the players becoming ridiculous to
> the point where when the British team meet up with international sides
> prepared to play it tough they just can't compete. They have had all of the
> more vigorous habits coached out of them to the point where when they find a
> referee who is prepared to allow the game to be played as it should they
> find themselves incapable of competing.

> Don't get me wrong I am not advocating foul play or thuggery - we've seen
> plenty of that in the glorious past of this game. What I do want to see is
> the players being given their game back and being allowed to play it with
> the passion and venom necessary to become World Class again.

> Final point, the Kiwis were easily the better side over the course of both
> games and it looks like we might struggle to get 10,000 at Watford.

> Alf King

 
 
 

Tackling the Problem

Post by stev » Fri, 13 Nov 1998 04:00:00



Quote:



>>>Surely your hopping in the same boat that you've put your team in there, a
>>>chance to watch your country do battle even/especially when they are down is
>>>part of standing up and saying this my game, my country and I'm there to
>>>suck up every second  of live RL as I can get. Shit if I cut off a part of
>>>my body for every time I've walked out of a test eyes fixed solidly to
>>>ground I'd be down to my fingernails. And besides being the eternal optimist
>>>I never give up hope of a miracle. You can blame the players , the coach
>>>what ever, the supporters have a duty to hang in there through thick and
>>>thin. Or, of course, you can sit back whinge on ngs.
>>>Jonesy

>It's a three hour journey each way to get to Watford, when I have other things
>to do.

Says it all; its a three hour journey for me. I know I have tickets
already but......... One of daughters has already said "is there any
point going?"

My lecture went on the lines of
- Where's your pride, what more important time to put in for your team
  than when they are down!  
- What do you want to be? A glory fan, only watching a winning team.

Since my introduction to RL I have really started to understand the
importance of sticking with your team. I remember watching Saints take
Wigan apart at Knowelsy Road in 1997 (CC). The site of those Wigan fans
flocking away from the ground in the second half stuck with me. What
must that do to a team already struggling! It's the same issue with a
third test in a lost series, do you watch to support a team or do you
watch just for some reflected glory?

I think most fans feel bad about teams that don't show committment,
should fans show committment?

Despite a lot of problems at London this season TC (with perhaps one
exception - Saints away) put a team that was committed. Despite Spuds
problems the bloke always put in for the team, I hope this gritty
attitude will continue under Des Staines.    

--
steve