Featherstone To Play Wakefield in Div 1 Grand Final

Featherstone To Play Wakefield in Div 1 Grand Final

Post by Phil Arundel » Mon, 21 Sep 1998 04:00:00


Featherstone Rovers booked their place in next week's Grand Final against
Wakefield Trinity by comprehensively beating Hull KR at New Craven Park by
54 points to 6. This was a magnificent performance and shows what Fev are
capable of when they really turn on the style. It's difficult to pick out a
single outstanding player from what was a truly remarkable team performance,
but IMO Richard Chapman just pips it from Carl Pratt with 2 tries and 8
goals. Fev have had an up and down season, with injuries and suspensions
preventing the formation of a stable team early on. Since then, though, they
have developed a real team spirit and, whatever happens next Saturday, Coach
Steve Simms and all the players can be justifiably proud of what they have
achieved with a good mix of youth and experience on what has been a
shoestring.

I would urge any SL fans out there to pop along to the McAlpine stadium next
week, or tune in on Sky (Saturday 26 September, kick-off 6.00pm), and see
what the First Division has to offer - I don't think you'll be disappointed!

Here's to next weekend, with fingers crossed they haven't peaked too early!

Phil


 
 
 

Featherstone To Play Wakefield in Div 1 Grand Final

Post by NJASHT » Tue, 22 Sep 1998 04:00:00

I agree Phil , the players were magnificent as
were our supporters.Despite the mocking of
Div 1 by our SL friends I would say that its the
best fev team for years and with perhaps a couple of additions would acheive a
mid table
placing in SL.
Heres to Saturday
Steve Ashton  

 
 
 

Featherstone To Play Wakefield in Div 1 Grand Final

Post by KBowen91 » Tue, 22 Sep 1998 04:00:00

Quote:
>Despite the mocking of
>Div 1 by our SL friends I would say that its the
>best fev team for years and with perhaps a couple of additions would acheive
>a
>mid table
>placing in SL.

I agree the winning of the Semi was a wonderful result BUT BE REALISTIC!!!!!!

NO team from the Current 1st Division is going into SuperLeague . I really do
wish people would undertand exactly what is going on.

regards

Keith - Cougar Fan

 
 
 

Featherstone To Play Wakefield in Div 1 Grand Final

Post by Tattooed Millionair » Tue, 22 Sep 1998 04:00:00

I think you are being a little optimistic!  Just look at Hull and
Huddersfield!!  Its not that easy.  

SL is tough and you'll need more than a couple of additions to your team
which I am not putting down in any way.  There is also the point of
funding.  Do you believe that if the winner of next Saturday's game gets
promoted they will get the same amount of funding as everyone else?
Huddersfield didn't.  If they did, as did Hull, buying enough players using
only 50% of your income to make the team strong enough to take on the SL
opposition is no mean task.  Good players don't come cheap!!!

Anyway, we'll see - you've got to win Wakefield next week yet!
--
TM



Quote:

> I agree Phil , the players were magnificent as
> were our supporters.Despite the mocking of
> Div 1 by our SL friends I would say that its the
> best fev team for years and with perhaps a couple of additions would
acheive a
> mid table
> placing in SL.
> Heres to Saturday
> Steve Ashton  

 
 
 

Featherstone To Play Wakefield in Div 1 Grand Final

Post by Phil Arundel » Wed, 23 Sep 1998 04:00:00

I am afraid I agree with you on this point (Afraid 'cos no-one will get
promoted, not 'cos its you :-)  )
SLE held out an olive branch to FASDA clubs, which was "The Winner of the GF
will gain promotion providing they meet all our criteria", knowing that none
of the clubs would fulfil all the criteria, and if they did, the criteria
would simply be changed, as they have been AFAIK from the original "Framing
The Future" document. Of the two clubs in the final, Wakefield will be
moving to a new ground (possibly), but Belle Vue is simply not up to
standard. Featherstone have spent a great deal of money improving Post
Office Road but I am not sure if its maximum capacity is high enough
(someone on another thread mentioned 10,000 - if this is true then Post
Office Road is too small). IMO, whoever wins on Saturday should be permitted
to take up their rightful place in SL - After all, they were only denied in
the first place by an arbtrary decision on numbers for the division (and, in
Featherstone's case, this was by a solitary place). And, to all those out
there who think that SL clubs are so superior that neither Wakefield nor
Featherstone could cut the mustard, I have a simple solution - relegation.
Thats the revolutionary idea whereby the bottom club, who has been proved
not to be good enough, is relegated out of the SL. That way, if the winners
of the GF are not good enough, they'll only be getting in your way for one
season. However, if they -are- good enough then someone else from your cosy
club will be dumped, and we can't have that, can we?? It is my honest belief
that SL needs promotion and relegation the same as any other sport - can you
imagine the uproar if the football premiership said they were closing their
doors? I know I am a lone voice amongst the many SL evangelists who think,
for some reason they have a divine right to be in the sport's elite without
proving their worth, but to those people I would say two things

1) What happens to the credibility of the sport if certain teams in the
first division become better than teams in the SL (which could be proven in
the SCCC)? Don't simply say it couldn't happen, because it could

2) Think about what will happen when your franchise is reviewed - SLE are
committed to bringing in teams from new areas. The league cannot continue to
grow indefinitely, so someone is going to lose out. How would you feel if
your team lost its rightful place in SL on an arbitrary decision, and had no
possibility of entry back into the elite. Again, don't think it can't
happen, it would appear to have happened already to Wakefield and
Featherstone.

I truly hope Featherstone can win on Saturday, for the glory and the money,
but I won't be betting my house on us playing in SL next year if we do (or
Wakefield if they win, for that matter), and that really saddens me for the
future of the game. I'll support Featherstone whatever division they are in,
as I have since I was five (27 years ago), but many people won't, because
the competition will lose credibility if promotion is barred. The ultimate
result of this is that Featherstone, and so many other clubs like them, will
cease to exist, and my newly born daughter will never have the chance to
stand on the terraces at Post Office Road. It makes me sick.

Quote:

>>Despite the mocking of
>>Div 1 by our SL friends I would say that its the
>>best fev team for years and with perhaps a couple of additions would
acheive
>>a
>>mid table
>>placing in SL.

>I agree the winning of the Semi was a wonderful result BUT BE
REALISTIC!!!!!!

>NO team from the Current 1st Division is going into SuperLeague . I really
do
>wish people would undertand exactly what is going on.

>regards

>Keith - Cougar Fan

 
 
 

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Post by KBowen91 » Wed, 23 Sep 1998 04:00:00

Quote:
>The Winner of the GF
>will gain promotion providing they meet all our criteria", knowing that none
>of the clubs would fulfil all the criteria, and if they did, the criteria
>would simply be changed, as they have been AFAIK from the original "Framing
>The Future" document.

I enjioyed reading your bulletin. Of course you are correct in everything you
say but quite correct about how the future of the game is looking. Your
daughter is not going to see "real passion" on and off the field never mind the
result. To me that was what Rugby league has always been about.

regards

Keith - Cougar Fan

 
 
 

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Post by NJASHT » Wed, 23 Sep 1998 04:00:00

Re-Previous messages
Despite the previous doom mongering messages from Phil and Keith Iam absolutely
convinced that the winners will be promoted as is our chairman Richard
Evans.The entry criteria as I understood it has been relaxed and there is the
real posibilty of the Rovers taking legal action if we happen to win the
match but get rejected by SL.
Steve Ashton  

 
 
 

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Post by Phil Arundel » Wed, 23 Sep 1998 04:00:00

I truly hope you are right, Steve, but I've seen SLE and the RFL***too
many clubs too many times to be overly optimistic

Phil

Quote:

>Re-Previous messages
>Despite the previous doom mongering messages from Phil and Keith Iam
absolutely
>convinced that the winners will be promoted as is our chairman Richard
>Evans.The entry criteria as I understood it has been relaxed and there is
the
>real posibilty of the Rovers taking legal action if we happen to win the
>match but get rejected by SL.
>Steve Ashton

 
 
 

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Post by Tattooed Millionair » Thu, 24 Sep 1998 04:00:00



Quote:

>The entry criteria as I understood it has been relaxed >>

If this is the case then why did Cardiff and Swansea back out??  In what
areas have they been relaxed just out of interest.

--
TM

 
 
 

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Post by WiganRLf » Thu, 24 Sep 1998 04:00:00



Quote:

>>The entry criteria as I understood it has been relaxed >>

>If this is the case then why did Cardiff and Swansea back out??  In what
>areas have they been relaxed just out of interest.

Exactly.  This is the hole the administrators are digging for themselves it
seems.

Its quite clear the idiots in charge at SLE want more games and the only way
they are going to get them now the South Wales franchises have been rejected is
to promote a club from Div 1.

From what I have read, the accountants will be asked to scrutinise the Div 1 GF
winners so I reckon they would find themselves in a rather awkward position if
they rejected South Wales on one set of criteria and allowed in a Div 1 club
who did not meet that criteria.

If they have been instructed to do this, then ML and Caisley should resign.

Dave
--

Wigan Warriors RLFC - 1998 Super League Champions.

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Post by NJASHT » Thu, 24 Sep 1998 04:00:00

Quote:

Wrote on 23rd Sept
>ts quite clear the idiots in charge at SLE want more games and the only way
>they are going to get them now the South Wales franchises have been rejected
>to promote a club from Div 1.
>From what I have read, the accountants will be asked to scrutinise the Div 1
>GF
>winners so I reckon they would find themselves in a rather awkward position
if
> If they rejected South Wales on one set of criteria and allowed in a Div 1
club
>who did not meet that criteria.

>If they have been instructed to do this, then ML and Caisley should resign.

This is the sort of hypocracy we get from SL
administraters and fans they expect Div 1 teams who actualy earn promotion on
the field
to give way to so called expansion teams.
Yet on the other hand the existing SL teams
make little effort to meet any standards of
grounds and finance but that doesn't matter.
The rules just shift to satisfy those that make
them ,for instance Featherstone were to be
offered first refusal over any new teams when
SL was set up , its long since forgotten now.
I think the term "Iam all right Jack" just about
sums up the attitude of Super League
Steve Ashton
 
 
 

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Post by stev » Fri, 25 Sep 1998 04:00:00



Quote:

>I agree Phil , the players were magnificent as
>were our supporters.Despite the mocking of
>Div 1 by our SL friends I would say that its the
>best fev team for years and with perhaps a couple of additions would acheive a
>mid table
>placing in SL.
>Heres to Saturday
>Steve Ashton  

I thought Hull KR looked a decent outfit and with full time training
could cause SL teams problems, as would any team of a similar standard.

The point is that there needs to be some mobility and an open
relationship.

--
steve

 
 
 

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Post by WiganRLf » Fri, 25 Sep 1998 04:00:00


Quote:


>Wrote on 23rd Sept
>>ts quite clear the idiots in charge at SLE want more games and the only way
>>they are going to get them now the South Wales franchises have been rejected
>>to promote a club from Div 1.
>>From what I have read, the accountants will be asked to scrutinise the Div 1
>>GF
>>winners so I reckon they would find themselves in a rather awkward position
>if
>> If they rejected South Wales on one set of criteria and allowed in a Div 1
>club
>>who did not meet that criteria.

>>If they have been instructed to do this, then ML and Caisley should resign.

>This is the sort of hypocracy we get from SL
>administraters and fans

I hope you are not accusing me of hypocrisy.  If you are I suggest you read the
above again.

Quote:
>they expect Div 1 teams who actualy earn promotion on
>the field
>to give way to so called expansion teams.

That is not what was said above at all.  The expansion teams have been refused
entry due to not meeting criteria.  It may be that the Div 1 winners ARE
allowed in because SLE RELAX the criteria.

Now that is hypocrisy.

Quote:
>Yet on the other hand the existing SL teams
>make little effort to meet any standards of
>grounds and finance but that doesn't matter.

Do they?  Evidence?

Whatever that is NOT what I am on about, simply that SLE are bending the rules
to suit themselves.  The fact that the current "bending" may allow a Div 1 side
in when they don't meet the criteria applied to expansion sides is as bad as
putting no pressure on SL sides to meet those same criteria.

Think about it.  If Fev get in without meeting the criteria they will just be
like all the other SL sides in your eyes - in there without satisfying the
criteria for new sides to enter.

Quote:
>The rules just shift to satisfy those that make
>them ,for instance Featherstone were to be
>offered first refusal over any new teams when
>SL was set up , its long since forgotten now.
>I think the term "Iam all right Jack" just about
>sums up the attitude of Super League

It may well be so but IMO it looks as though they will allow a Div 1 side in,
going against there own rules, which IMO gives them no credibility.

Dave

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Post by KBowen91 » Fri, 25 Sep 1998 04:00:00

Quote:
>Despite the previous doom mongering messages from Phil and Keith Iam
>absolutely
>convinced that the winners will be promoted as is our chairman Richard
>Evans.The entry criteria as I understood it has been relaxed and there is the
>real posibilty of the Rovers taking legal action if we happen to win the
>match but get rejected by SL.

Remember the Cougars took the RL to court when they won Promotion! and look hat
happened!

I would like to think tto think that EVERY club has the right to promotion as
well as relegation otherwise whats the point. However Superleague is now a
"Members" club and they will do as they please.
I am a realist and no matter what , unless a current Superleague club goes to
the wall ther is NO team in the current geographical area who will now be
allowed in.
Who is the Chief executive of Superleague? and who proposed the original
mergers.
*** theory?
Just wait and see.
regards

Keith - Cougar Fan