THE INDEPENDENT(sic), at it again.

THE INDEPENDENT(sic), at it again.

Post by CwEwSw » Wed, 11 Jun 1997 04:00:00


This bit of bigotry was in Mondays Indy. "It was the sort of punch that
occurs a dozen times in any game of rugby league, but Scott Gibbs is not
playing league any more. Yesterday, the Welsh centre became the first Lion
ever to be suspended after being found guilty of Grant Esterhuizen the
Northern Transvaal back during Saturday's contest at pretoria's loftus
Versfeld Stadium." It later quotes the Judiciary in the case as, "Politely
suggesting he might curb his league instincts now that he has returned to
union."
Presumably the Boer who shattered that Scot's guy's kneecap learned how to
do it as a League player as well. This kind of shit just drives me up the
wall.
chris westwood.
Rec Sport Rugby League

 
 
 

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Post by Antonioni P » Wed, 11 Jun 1997 04:00:00


Quote:
> Date: 10 Jun 1997 07:08:03 GMT

> Newsgroups: rec.sport.rugby.league
> Subject: THE INDEPENDENT(sic), at it again.

> This bit of bigotry was in Mondays Indy. "It was the sort of punch that
> occurs a dozen times in any game of rugby league, but Scott Gibbs is not
> playing league any more. Yesterday, the Welsh centre became the first Lion
> ever to be suspended after being found guilty of Grant Esterhuizen the
> Northern Transvaal back during Saturday's contest at pretoria's loftus
> Versfeld Stadium." It later quotes the Judiciary in the case as, "Politely
> suggesting he might curb his league instincts now that he has returned to
> union."
> Presumably the Boer who shattered that Scot's guy's kneecap learned how to
> do it as a League player as well. This kind of shit just drives me up the
> wall.
> chris westwood.
> Rec Sport Rugby League

>Can you believe that that was actually the excuse that the lions used in

the hearing. Anyway, he always used to get sent off for that at saints,
espescially that really dire game he had at Odsal.

By the way, I just sent a postcard to the indy to remind them of their
hypocrisy. It just said "99".

Time to start a Leaguers terrorist group. We could all train in Ecky Thump
and go out bombarding ignorant journalists wih flat caps and whippets.
Just a thought.

P.J.

 
 
 

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Post by Vibrating Bum-Faced Goa » Wed, 11 Jun 1997 04:00:00

: >
: >Can you believe that that was actually the excuse that the lions used in
: the hearing. Anyway, he always used to get sent off for that at saints,
: espescially that really dire game he had at Odsal.

: By the way, I just sent a postcard to the indy to remind them of their
: hypocrisy. It just said "99".

Nice one. :^)

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Post by Steve Morri » Wed, 11 Jun 1997 04:00:00



Quote:
>This bit of bigotry was in Mondays Indy. "It was the sort of punch that
>occurs a dozen times in any game of rugby league, but Scott Gibbs is not
>playing league any more. Yesterday, the Welsh centre became the first Lion

That's true, I was pleased to see Gibbs on the field, he made an
immediate impact but his short arm was a typical RL tactic (just watch a
video of the Bulls game).

However there are a number of peculiar issues here, first and foremost
SA are under real pressure to play a cleaner game, they already have a
player cited and one facing possible legal action. It is crazy really
when a guy can get a one match ban for a little short arm jab when
someone else can attempt a flying stamp in the face and chest of another
player with relative impunity.

Just for the record I think the guy that went for Wainright's head was
the same guy that stamped on (was it Callard) an English players face
giving him a gash requiring a number of stiches in an off the ball
incident (not in a ruck or maul).

I would give a five year ban (and loss of all rugby related earnings) at
the very least if deliberate stamping to the face or head could be
proven, plus exposure to legal recourse for damages.    

Quote:
>ever to be suspended after being found guilty of Grant Esterhuizen the
>Northern Transvaal back during Saturday's contest at pretoria's loftus
>Versfeld Stadium." It later quotes the Judiciary in the case as, "Politely
>suggesting he might curb his league instincts now that he has returned to
>union."
>Presumably the Boer who shattered that Scot's guy's kneecap learned how to
>do it as a League player as well. This kind of shit just drives me up the
>wall.
>chris westwood.
>Rec Sport Rugby League

--
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Post by Paul Bennewort » Wed, 11 Jun 1997 04:00:00

Quote:

> : By the way, I just sent a postcard to the indy to remind them of their
> : hypocrisy. It just said "99".

> Nice one. :^)

Explain, and it could become a cause celebre for those unlucky enough to
be born outside the Black Pudding Belt.

Paul

 
 
 

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Post by Paul Matthe » Wed, 11 Jun 1997 04:00:00



Quote:
>Time to start a Leaguers terrorist group. We could all train in Ecky Thump
>and go out bombarding ignorant journalists wih flat caps and whippets.
>Just a thought.

Musn't forget the most lethal of the Ecky Thumpers armoury - The Black
Pudding.

Paul Matthews
http://www.triton.u-net.com

 
 
 

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Post by Antonioni P » Wed, 11 Jun 1997 04:00:00

Quote:

> Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 11:54:25 -0700

> Newsgroups: rec.sport.rugby.league
> Subject: Re: THE INDEPENDENT(sic), at it again.


> > : By the way, I just sent a postcard to the indy to remind them of their
> > : hypocrisy. It just said "99".

> > Nice one. :^)

> Explain, and it could become a cause celebre for those unlucky enough to
> be born outside the Black Pudding Belt.

> Paul

>Do you mean 99, the mythical *** play call of the (was it 1974?)

Lions or Ecky Thump the mythical Kung Fu of Lancashire, or Mr Goat's Nice
one?
 
 
 

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Post by Vibrating Bum-Faced Goa » Wed, 11 Jun 1997 04:00:00

Quote:


> > : By the way, I just sent a postcard to the indy to remind them of their
> > : hypocrisy. It just said "99".

> > Nice one. :^)

> Explain, and it could become a cause celebre for those unlucky enough to
> be born outside the Black Pudding Belt.

A loose translation of '99' in a Rugby League context could be that your
opposition has a player who is taking you to pieces and the only way
you're going to win is to take him to pieces. When the 99 call goes up
someone's going off on a stretcher and someone else is going off at the
kind request of the referee.

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Electronic Imaging Unit |
University of Bradford  | Tough on St.Helens
TEL: +44 1274 385463    | Tough on the causes of St.Helens.

 
 
 

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Post by WiganRLf » Thu, 12 Jun 1997 04:00:00


Quote:
(Jonathan Naylor) writes:
>If an individual
>were to get his own back then he stood a good chance of being sent off,
the
>'99' call meant that the whole team stuck in and so the only choice the
ref
>had was to send off the whole team ! It worked wonderfully.

This appeals to my sence of justice!  Are the results of any "99" calls on
video?

Dave

Wigan RLFC - Simply THE Best.

 
 
 

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Post by Vibrating Bum-Faced Goa » Thu, 12 Jun 1997 04:00:00


: >A loose translation of '99' in a Rugby League context could be that your
: >opposition has a player who is taking you to pieces and the only way
: >you're going to win is to take him to pieces. When the 99 call goes up
: >someone's going off on a stretcher and someone else is going off at the
: >kind request of the referee.

: I think in the RL context a '99' call would probably cause the whole team to
: be put on report, or all in the sin bin.

<SNIP Lions in South Africa>

Sorry to be pedantic here, I'm not disputing the origin of the 99 call,
but you say in an 'RL context' and give me the Union origins of it? Nice
one again. :^)

The above is my experience of the 99 call. It was usually directed against a
little blond haired half back that played for Woolston about five years
ago.

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University of Bradford  | Tough on St.Helens
TEL: +44 1274 385463    | Tough on the causes of St.Helens.

 
 
 

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Post by Jonathan Nayl » Thu, 12 Jun 1997 04:00:00

Quote:


>(Jonathan Naylor) writes:
>>If an individual
>>were to get his own back then he stood a good chance of being sent off, the
>>'99' call meant that the whole team stuck in and so the only choice the ref
>>had was to send off the whole team ! It worked wonderfully.

>This appeals to my sence of justice!  Are the results of any "99" calls on
>video?

Oh yes. But I don't have any of them :-(

The BBC have a nice program about that tour which was repeated earlier this
year around lunchtime on BBC1, extremely entertaining. Since the SAs are
Rugby mad it was all filmed and the program included interviews with all the
main protaginists (sp?). I think the series was called Rivals and included
programs about Borg v McEnroe, Coe v Evett, etc. I would imagine that it'd
be possible to get a video about the tour somewhere, it was epoch making.

As you may know the Lions went unbeaten and they celebrated by trying to
burn a hotel down ! The program covers all these things in detail. I have an
article on disc here that I'll send you via email about it all.

Quote:
>Dave

>Wigan RLFC - Simply THE Best.

Of course.

Jonathan

 
 
 

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Post by Vibrating Bum-Faced Goa » Fri, 13 Jun 1997 04:00:00

: The BBC have a nice program about that tour which was repeated earlier this
: year around lunchtime on BBC1, extremely entertaining. Since the SAs are
: Rugby mad it was all filmed and the program included interviews with all the
: main protaginists (sp?). I think the series was called Rivals and included
: programs about Borg v McEnroe, Coe v Evett, etc. I would imagine that it'd
: be possible to get a video about the tour somewhere, it was epoch making.

Good series that. Didn't they do one abouyt the Bodyline Ashes series
down under as well?

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Electronic Imaging Unit |
University of Bradford  | Tough on St.Helens
TEL: +44 1274 385463    | Tough on the causes of St.Helens.

 
 
 

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Post by Jonathan Nayl » Fri, 13 Jun 1997 04:00:00


Quote:
>: programs about Borg v McEnroe, Coe v Evett, etc. I would imagine that it'd
>: be possible to get a video about the tour somewhere, it was epoch making.

>Good series that. Didn't they do one abouyt the Bodyline Ashes series
>down under as well?

I think so. I think the BBC did two series that were very similar, one was
about individual rivalries, and the other was more general. Coe and Ovett
appeared in both series, one borrowing footage from the other. But I
remember Bodyline appearing, I think Bodyline did to Australia what the
Lions did to SA. I would imagine Australian Cricket fans are probably
feeling the same way at the moment :-)

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>University of Bradford  | Tough on St.Helens
>TEL: +44 1274 385463    | Tough on the causes of St.Helens.

Jonathan

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Post by CwEwSw » Fri, 13 Jun 1997 04:00:00

I don't want to seem pedantic, but the South Africans aren't 'Rugby mad',
Rugby of any persuasion is very much a minority sport in the country. If
the South Africans are mad about any sport then it's soccer. The white
South Africans are into Rugby but, they are only a small but
powerful(still) part of South African culture.
Chris Westwood.
Rec Sport Rugby League

 
 
 

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Post by Antonioni P » Sat, 14 Jun 1997 04:00:00


Quote:
> Date: 10 Jun 1997 15:50:45 GMT

> Newsgroups: rec.sport.rugby.league
> Subject: Re: THE INDEPENDENT(sic), at it again.



> > > : By the way, I just sent a postcard to the indy to remind them of their
> > > : hypocrisy. It just said "99".

> > > Nice one. :^)

> > Explain, and it could become a cause celebre for those unlucky enough to
> > be born outside the Black Pudding Belt.

> A loose translation of '99' in a Rugby League context could be that your
> opposition has a player who is taking you to pieces and the only way
> you're going to win is to take him to pieces. When the 99 call goes up
> someone's going off on a stretcher and someone else is going off at the
> kind request of the referee.

> --
> Chris Russell           | Bradford Bulls - Wembley 1997
> Electronic Imaging Unit |
> University of Bradford  | Tough on St.Helens
> TEL: +44 1274 385463    | Tough on the causes of St.Helens.

>An old lag once told me that back in the dark unlimited tackle days,

coaches used to instruct their enforcers to make sure that they always
a)retaliated, b) did so sneakily and c) made sure the player took no
further part in the game, just in case someone saw it so both sides would
be equally handicapped. Obviously we learnt it from those players who'd
come from Union

p.J.