HULL KR about to fold?

HULL KR about to fold?

Post by Stev » Fri, 10 Jan 1997 04:00:00


Anyone have any details??

Regards

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Steve

 
 
 

HULL KR about to fold?

Post by John Hull » Sun, 12 Jan 1997 04:00:00



Quote:

> Anyone have any details??

Hull KR have been spending more than their income for years. They made the
terrible mistake of moving from a bad stadium to a worse one. S they have
debts of 1m, and a winding up order from the Inland Revenue for 250,000.
They hope to go into administration.

No-one will lend a helping hand: the RL has no money, and they haven't a
hope of a Super League franchise unless they merge with Hull.

I lived in Hull and know how bitter the rivalry is between Airlie Birds and
Robins. So I know I'm just dreaming when I think there could be one Hull
team, ruling the Super League from that big empty soccer stadium wasted on
the soccer club.

John

 
 
 

HULL KR about to fold?

Post by Mugwu » Sun, 12 Jan 1997 04:00:00


Quote:

>Anyone have any details??

Fold? Well I couldn't say - but one thing is for sure!

Hull KR and New Craven Park is certainly COLD!!!

Just give me the name of the architect who thought it was a good
idea to have the ground open-ended at the dockside end!!!

***ic bastard!!!

Mugwump.

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HULL KR about to fold?

Post by Keith Bow » Sun, 12 Jan 1997 04:00:00



Quote:

> Anyone have any details??

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Quote:
>Hull KR have been spending more than their income for >terrible

mistake of moving from a bad stadium to a >worse one. S they have

Quote:
>debts of 1m, and a winding up order from the Inland >Revenue for 250,000.
>They hope to go into administration.
>No-one will lend a helping hand: the RL has no money, >and they haven't a
>hope of a Super League franchise unless they merge with >Hull.
>I lived in Hull and know how bitter the rivalry is >between Airlie Birds and
>Robins. So I know I'm just dreaming when I think there >could be one Hull
>team, ruling the Super League from that big empty >soccer stadium wasted on
>the soccer club.
>John

Common sense will prevail BUT MONEY!!!! will be the main catalyst to
HULL UNITED for a Superleague place. In fact they may become one of
the founder members of UNILEAGUE in about 2 years.

Sadly the demise of beloved Cougars has begun and the "dream"(for
thats all it was) of the SuperLeague will on this occasion NEVER
HAPPEN. We have no one to merge with.

regards

Keith - Cougar Fan

 
 
 

HULL KR about to fold?

Post by Unswor » Mon, 13 Jan 1997 04:00:00

<< Hull KR have been spending more than their income for years. They made
the
terrible mistake of moving from a bad stadium to a worse one. S they have
debts of  1m, and a winding up order from the Inland Revenue for  250,000.
They hope to go into administration.

Helloooooooooooooooooooo

Spending more than your income leads to ....... Bankruptcy!!!!!!!!!!!

Byeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!

Has it really taken 101 years to learn that ?
Ged Unsworth
Cincinnati, Ohio, USA
Taking Rugby League to the WORLD

 
 
 

HULL KR about to fold?

Post by greg96.. » Mon, 13 Jan 1997 04:00:00


Quote:

>Hull KR have been spending more than their income for years. They made
the
>terrible mistake of moving from a bad stadium to a worse one. S they have
>debts of 1m, and a winding up order from the Inland Revenue for
250,000.
>They hope to go into administration.

Most clubs seem to have massive debts these days and just ignore them.
It seems debts to other clubs and players can be put on hold for ever.
Other creditors (banks, brewerys etc) are reluctant to take clubs to
court,
because of the bad publicity generated.

But just try owing money to the taxman. He wants his pound of flesh and
he'll make sure he gets it!

It really cheeses me off to see Barrow struggling on the pitch whilst we
get
our finances in order and other clubs just carry on regardless signing
players they can't afford and turning a blind eye to mounting debts.

Greg
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HULL KR about to fold?

Post by Stephen M » Mon, 13 Jan 1997 04:00:00

: Most clubs seem to have massive debts these days and just ignore them.
: It seems debts to other clubs and players can be put on hold for ever.
: Other creditors (banks, brewerys etc) are reluctant to take clubs to
: court,
: because of the bad publicity generated.

: But just try owing money to the taxman. He wants his pound of flesh and
: he'll make sure he gets it!

Not paying the tax is unbelievably stupid,  and yet so many RL clubs do it.

: It really cheeses me off to see Barrow struggling on the pitch whilst we
: get
: our finances in order and other clubs just carry on regardless signing
: players they can't afford and turning a blind eye to mounting debts.

Believe me, it's the best way.  Nothing compares to the trauma of
administration.   It was a nightmare a couple of years back when Fartown
were in that situation.

: Greg
: -------

Cheers

Steve

 
 
 

HULL KR about to fold?

Post by wiganrl.. » Tue, 14 Jan 1997 04:00:00


Quote:

>Helloooooooooooooooooooo

>Spending more than your income leads to ....... Bankruptcy!!!!!!!!!!!

>Byeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!

>Has it really taken 101 years to learn that ?

What makes you think the lesson has been learnt?

Dave

 
 
 

HULL KR about to fold?

Post by Robi » Thu, 16 Jan 1997 04:00:00

Quote:



> >Hull KR have been spending more than their income for years. They made
> the
> >terrible mistake of moving from a bad stadium to a worse one. S they have
> >debts of 1m, and a winding up order from the Inland Revenue for
> 250,000.
> >They hope to go into administration.

> Most clubs seem to have massive debts these days and just ignore them.
> It seems debts to other clubs and players can be put on hold for ever.
> Other creditors (banks, brewerys etc) are reluctant to take clubs to
> court,
> because of the bad publicity generated.

> But just try owing money to the taxman. He wants his pound of flesh and
> he'll make sure he gets it!

> It really cheeses me off to see Barrow struggling on the pitch whilst we
> get
> our finances in order and other clubs just carry on regardless signing
> players they can't afford and turning a blind eye to mounting debts.

> Greg
> -------

It seems that not only do they owe the taxman, but also the brewery, HM
Customs & Excise. Owing the VAT man is an achievement in itself,
technically it was never Rovers money to spend in the first place, but is
a tax on goods and services, so its never your money.  

It does seem that many of the problems the club faces are of their own
making, especially having gone from the first to third divisions.

When relegated from the old first division they had three games to go and
needed to win all three.  They beat Wigan in the first game quite
convincingly, then went to Salford, and upto half time were unbeatable,
then fell apart in the second half and got hammered.  The last game they
went to Widnes and again won well.  Having seen the games I am not sure
what was said at half time at Salford, but it seemed like they wanted to
get beaten, and relegated as a consequence.

Then the season before last they had a reasonable run going. Maurice
announces Super League and the merger with Hull RLFC, and they then lost
every game til the end of the season, and ended up in the third division.

Now of course all the problems are laid at the feet of the fans by the
club, apparantly its my fault for not going to every game anymore, but
who want's to go to watch a club that is far too good for the division
its in. Also summer rugby is nice, but there are too many other
distractions in summer, even a British summer.

IMHO the best thing to happen would be for the club to fold.  Then some
rich businessman to buy the assets of the club, and start afresh with a
clean slate.  If no new buyer can be found then let the club fold, and
be an example to all other clubs, not just RL clubs, on what can happen
if clubs are not run properly.

I can't ever see a merger taking place, Rovers are in too weak a position
for it to be a merger of equals. A merger with Hull at the moment would
probably see the new club playing at the Boulevard, in black and white,
and be called Hull!!!  Although there probably isn't a decent team
between the two sets of players for that matter.

 
 
 

HULL KR about to fold?

Post by David William » Fri, 17 Jan 1997 04:00:00

Quote:

> I can't ever see a merger taking place, Rovers are in too weak a position
> for it to be a merger of equals. A merger with Hull at the moment would
> probably see the new club playing at the Boulevard, in black and white,
> and be called Hull!!!

The level of debt has been quite well known in Hull for some time.  No wonder
Hull did not want to merge with Rovers and bankrupt themselves as well in the
process.  There was also an offer from the City Council of building a new
stadium for the Tigers and other sports teams.  Again I think Rovers were
enthusiastic but Hull's reticence pulled the plug on the proposal.

I like the rest of your comments though, about playing at the Boulevard
in Black and White with a patch of purple or whatever...

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HULL KR about to fold?

Post by Robi » Sat, 18 Jan 1997 04:00:00

Quote:


> > I can't ever see a merger taking place, Rovers are in too weak a position
> > for it to be a merger of equals. A merger with Hull at the moment would
> > probably see the new club playing at the Boulevard, in black and white,
> > and be called Hull!!!

> The level of debt has been quite well known in Hull for some time.  No wonder
> Hull did not want to merge with Rovers and bankrupt themselves as well in the
> process.  There was also an offer from the City Council of building a new
> stadium for the Tigers and other sports teams.  Again I think Rovers were
> enthusiastic but Hull's reticence pulled the plug on the proposal.

> I like the rest of your comments though, about playing at the Boulevard
> in Black and White with a patch of purple or whatever...

> --


>                - http://SportToday.org/

> "Il n'y a pas de meilleur professeur d'humilite que le
>  cheval."                  Prince Errant (O. de Carne)

Rovers don't need purple patches, they need a purple patch to get them
into the Super League!  Well it might happen, in my dreams at least,
usually those involving me scoring the winning try in the cup final, and
then been carried off shoulder high by *** Pamela Anderson clones, but
thats another story...

What happens next will be very interesting both for Rovers fans, and for
sport in Hull in general.  Despite the citys size Hull seems unable to
develop either a decent team, RL or football, or the support for even a
mediocre side.  I remeber in the late seventies crowds at either Hull or
Rovers for a single game where larger than all three sides can muster
over a weekend!

How long before either Hull or City follow Rovers into administration?  
Also who are these mysterious backers of whom rumours keep surfacing,
then disappearing?  I can't ever see the Council ever backing a new
stadium, they seem hell bent on keeping Hull a backwater, don't forget,
they may make the offer, but I believe they are fairly confident that the
necessary mergers will never take place for that offer to be accepted.

Maybe if I get lucky on the lottery I could be the next mysterious backer
for Rovers, although I think I could find better ways to burn several
million pounds.

If Rovers do go out of business what happens to rhe stadium? Is there
enough money from the dogs and speedway to keep it open.  Also how much
money was generated for Rovers by these sports?

 
 
 

HULL KR about to fold?

Post by Stev » Tue, 21 Jan 1997 04:00:00



Quote:


>> > I can't ever see a merger taking place, Rovers are in too weak a position
>> > for it to be a merger of equals. A merger with Hull at the moment would
>> > probably see the new club playing at the Boulevard, in black and white,
>> > and be called Hull!!!

>> The level of debt has been quite well known in Hull for some time.  No wonder
>> Hull did not want to merge with Rovers and bankrupt themselves as well in the
>> process.  There was also an offer from the City Council of building a new
>> stadium for the Tigers and other sports teams.  Again I think Rovers were
>> enthusiastic but Hull's reticence pulled the plug on the proposal.

>> I like the rest of your comments though, about playing at the Boulevard
>> in Black and White with a patch of purple or whatever...

>> --


>>                - http://SportToday.org/

>> "Il n'y a pas de meilleur professeur d'humilite que le
>>  cheval."                  Prince Errant (O. de Carne)

>Rovers don't need purple patches, they need a purple patch to get them
>into the Super League!  Well it might happen, in my dreams at least,
>usually those involving me scoring the winning try in the cup final, and
>then been carried off shoulder high by *** Pamela Anderson clones, but
>thats another story...

<snipped>

I had the same dream involving London Broncos but the *** bodies were
all Vib Bum Face clones?????????????????
--
Steve