Jon Clarke

Jon Clarke

Post by Lloyd Barkha » Sun, 31 Jan 1999 04:00:00


It's nice to see that Wigan are to stand by Wigan *** Jon Clarke as he
misses the whole 1999 season due to his being sent to a young offenders
institution for a year.

But what did he do to deserve being locked up for a year?

Lloyd

 
 
 

Jon Clarke

Post by Neil Barracloug » Sun, 31 Jan 1999 04:00:00



Quote:
>It's nice to see that Wigan are to stand by Wigan *** Jon Clarke as he
>misses the whole 1999 season due to his being sent to a young offenders
>institution for a year.

>But what did he do to deserve being locked up for a year?

Two counts of *** wasn't it?

Quote:

>Lloyd

Neil 'The Real Deal' B.

'There's none more blind
 than them that won't listen' - Del Boy,
                                Only Fools and Horses

 
 
 

Jon Clarke

Post by JL Ashw » Mon, 01 Feb 1999 04:00:00

Quote:

>It's nice to see that Wigan are to stand by Wigan *** Jon Clarke as he
>misses the whole 1999 season due to his being sent to a young offenders
>institution for a year.
>But what did he do to deserve being locked up for a year?
>Lloyd

Two *** charges, I think.  Must have been pretty bad to get a
year.

Linda A.

 
 
 

Jon Clarke

Post by Michael Hollic » Mon, 01 Feb 1999 04:00:00

Chucked out of a nightclub after the GF, some other bloke left after him
said something so JC turned and punched him. The other guy fell and hit his
head on a wall breaking his neck! He's been in a head brace ever since.

Is this harsh or not? I don't know.

That is the story as reported in the paper anyway. We'll miss him, he's a
decent lad really - totally out of character.

Mike

Quote:

>It's nice to see that Wigan are to stand by Wigan *** Jon Clarke as he
>misses the whole 1999 season due to his being sent to a young offenders
>institution for a year.

>But what did he do to deserve being locked up for a year?

>Lloyd

 
 
 

Jon Clarke

Post by Lloyd Barkha » Mon, 01 Feb 1999 04:00:00

Quote:



>>It's nice to see that Wigan are to stand by Wigan *** Jon Clarke as he
>>misses the whole 1999 season due to his being sent to a young offenders
>>institution for a year.

>>But what did he do to deserve being locked up for a year?

>Two counts of *** wasn't it?

During or after a RL match?

Lloyd

 
 
 

Jon Clarke

Post by Lloyd Barkha » Mon, 01 Feb 1999 04:00:00


Quote:
>Chucked out of a nightclub after the GF, some other bloke left after him
>said something so JC turned and punched him. The other guy fell and hit his
>head on a wall breaking his neck! He's been in a head brace ever since.

>Is this harsh or not? I don't know.

>That is the story as reported in the paper anyway. We'll miss him, he's a
>decent lad really - totally out of character.

Oh yeah! All decent lads go round punching people saying things they don't
like!!

Lloyd

Quote:


>>It's nice to see that Wigan are to stand by Wigan *** Jon Clarke as he
>>misses the whole 1999 season due to his being sent to a young offenders
>>institution for a year.

>>But what did he do to deserve being locked up for a year?

>>Lloyd

 
 
 

Jon Clarke

Post by mark low » Mon, 01 Feb 1999 04:00:00

Quote:

>Two *** charges, I think.  Must have been pretty bad to get a
>year.

>Linda A.

He got 18 months actually. It happened on the Sat night after the Grand
Final in a Wigan nightclub. It appears he took offence at a comment from a
bloke which wasn't actually aimed at Clarke. He was drunk, and punched the
bloke who fell over and smashed his head on the floor fracturing his skull
and injuring his neck, leaving partial paralysis. He is still wearing a
large frame on his head for the skull injury. It was a *** *** to say
the least and amazingly out of character for Clarke, who is now paying a
very heavy price
 
 
 

Jon Clarke

Post by Neil Barracloug » Mon, 01 Feb 1999 04:00:00



Quote:




>>>It's nice to see that Wigan are to stand by Wigan *** Jon Clarke as he
>>>misses the whole 1999 season due to his being sent to a young offenders
>>>institution for a year.

>>>But what did he do to deserve being locked up for a year?

>>Two counts of *** wasn't it?

>During or after a RL match?

Whilst out boozing one night I think.

Quote:

>Lloyd

Neil 'The Real Deal' B.

'There's none more blind
 than them that won't listen' - Del Boy,
                                Only Fools and Horses

 
 
 

Jon Clarke

Post by Andy La » Mon, 01 Feb 1999 04:00:00

I cann't condone what Jon did, but question what possible good can come out
of locking away for 18 months (I was told that was the sentance by someone
at the club).
Jon as far as I am aware has no other convictions, and from all accounts the
attack was completely out of character, therefore it would serve more good
for him to have been given a suspended sentance for a couple of years, a
VERY heavy fine, and a long stint at community service.
The community service could have involved coaching young offenders or
"trouble" children, and getting them involved in rugby league (a bit like
Mark Bell has gone to do in Aussie). This would have served the community
better, avoided the cost of keeping someone locked up, would have help built
Jon's character and communication skills and maybe help give troublesome
children something to keep on the straight and narrow for.

My, as well as most other Wigan fans thoughts, are not only with the victim
of this incident (who it sounds like will suffer for the rest of his life)
but also for Jon who is now serving a sentence that will serve him and
nobody else any good.

Andy Law

Quote:

>It's nice to see that Wigan are to stand by Wigan *** Jon Clarke as he
>misses the whole 1999 season due to his being sent to a young offenders
>institution for a year.

>But what did he do to deserve being locked up for a year?

>Lloyd

 
 
 

Jon Clarke

Post by Dee Brook » Mon, 01 Feb 1999 04:00:00

On Sat, 30 Jan 1999 21:51:35 -0000, "Lloyd Barkham"

Quote:

>It's nice to see that Wigan are to stand by Wigan *** Jon Clarke as he
>misses the whole 1999 season due to his being sent to a young offenders
>institution for a year.

>But what did he do to deserve being locked up for a year?

>Lloyd

In the early hours, following the grand final victory, he got very
drunk and beat up two (I think) members of the public. He pleaded
guilty at his trial in early January and was sentanced on Friday.

Dee

 
 
 

Jon Clarke

Post by Shar » Tue, 02 Feb 1999 04:00:00

Quote:

>On Sat, 30 Jan 1999 21:51:35 -0000, "Lloyd Barkham"

>>It's nice to see that Wigan are to stand by Wigan *** Jon Clarke as he
>>misses the whole 1999 season due to his being sent to a young offenders
>>institution for a year.

You guys have got to be kidding. This guy has damaged our game. This is what
the kick and clap boys love, seeing another League boy in jail, proving that
it's a thugs game. What's the point of advertising when in recent times,
***has gone away, Sailor got caught with a *** and now this. This is
supposed to be a professional sport and with the "job" goes certain
responsibilities. Professional is an attitude, not just the fact that you
get  paid for what you do.

Cheers,
Shark.

 
 
 

Jon Clarke

Post by Andrew May » Tue, 02 Feb 1999 04:00:00

Quote:

>I cann't condone what Jon did, but question what possible good can come out
>of locking away for 18 months (I was told that was the sentance by someone
>at the club).
>Jon as far as I am aware has no other convictions, and from all accounts
the
>attack was completely out of character, therefore it would serve more good
>for him to have been given a suspended sentance for a couple of years, a
>VERY heavy fine, and a long stint at community service.
>The community service could have involved coaching young offenders or
>"trouble" children, and getting them involved in rugby league (a bit like
>Mark Bell has gone to do in Aussie). This would have served the community
>better, avoided the cost of keeping someone locked up, would have help
built
>Jon's character and communication skills and maybe help give troublesome
>children something to keep on the straight and narrow for.

>My, as well as most other Wigan fans thoughts, are not only with the victim
>of this incident (who it sounds like will suffer for the rest of his life)
>but also for Jon who is now serving a sentence that will serve him and
>nobody else any good.

I partially agree with your sentiments, but I think a custodial sentance was
in order. I don't know what the going is for this sort of crime, so whether
it's too long, too short or just right - I don't know.

The last thing you want to do is send out the wrong message to people - that
it's OK to go and punch someone - you'll get away with it. I don't believe
that someone should be made an example of (and I trust the law wouldn't do
this just because it is a high profile case), but this does serve a good
example to kids in the town that going out and getting pissed then smacking
someone in the gob is not acceptable behaviour and it will be severely
punished.

Again, I don't know how these things work, but I wouldn't be surprised to
see him out sooner rather than later with good behaviour inside or what
ever. Hopefully his time inside will be a humbling experience. The club has
had the guts to stick by him and when he gets out, they'll give him another
chance to get his life on track. I hope he uses that chance wisely. It would
have been easy for them to wash their hands of him, but I think they've
showed a mature attitude to this by sticking by him. I think they would have
said goodbye if he was a known trouble maker, so the reports of the incident
being out of character and alchohol induced must be somewhere near the mark.
But what better example is there of a young lad in this sort of situation
than Ellery Hanley. Hopefully he'll follow the same track.

The report I read said that Clarke and his victim have come to a
reconciliation over what happened and the bloke holds no bad feeling towards
Clarke.

Cheers,

Andrew.

 
 
 

Jon Clarke

Post by David Odd » Tue, 02 Feb 1999 04:00:00

On Mon, 1 Feb 1999 00:42:37 -0000, "Andrew Maye"

Quote:

>I partially agree with your sentiments, but I think a custodial sentance was
>in order. I don't know what the going is for this sort of crime, so whether
>it's too long, too short or just right - I don't know.

>The last thing you want to do is send out the wrong message to people - that
>it's OK to go and punch someone - you'll get away with it. I don't believe
>that someone should be made an example of (and I trust the law wouldn't do
>this just because it is a high profile case), but this does serve a good
>example to kids in the town that going out and getting pissed then smacking
>someone in the gob is not acceptable behaviour and it will be severely
>punished.

Well said,  it does send out the right message.

The chap he hit will not be right after 18 months and while I doubt
that was Clarkes desired result you can't just expect to walk away
just because you did not mean it.

Dave
--

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(Oh - and Grand Final winners as well)

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Jon Clarke

Post by stev » Tue, 02 Feb 1999 04:00:00



Quote:
>I cann't condone what Jon did, but question what possible good can come out
>of locking away for 18 months (I was told that was the sentance by someone
>at the club).
>Jon as far as I am aware has no other convictions, and from all accounts the
>attack was completely out of character, therefore it would serve more good
>for him to have been given a suspended sentance for a couple of years, a

Why? I think its be proven that banging people us offers little
rehabilitation but some punishment. His character is relevant but offers
very little defence.

I do think however to give him 18 months electronic tagging could have
been a better deal, for all concerned, stopped him going out and he
could have earnt some money to pay as compensation.

Quote:
>VERY heavy fine, and a long stint at community service.
>The community service could have involved coaching young offenders or
>"trouble" children, and getting them involved in rugby league (a bit like
>Mark Bell has gone to do in Aussie). This would have served the community
>better, avoided the cost of keeping someone locked up, would have help built
>Jon's character and communication skills and maybe help give troublesome
>children something to keep on the straight and narrow for.

>My, as well as most other Wigan fans thoughts, are not only with the victim
>of this incident (who it sounds like will suffer for the rest of his life)
>but also for Jon who is now serving a sentence that will serve him and
>nobody else any good.

>Andy Law


>>It's nice to see that Wigan are to stand by Wigan *** Jon Clarke as he
>>misses the whole 1999 season due to his being sent to a young offenders
>>institution for a year.

>>But what did he do to deserve being locked up for a year?

>>Lloyd

--
steve
 
 
 

Jon Clarke

Post by Tattooed Millionair » Tue, 02 Feb 1999 04:00:00

Quote:
> Two counts of *** wasn't it?

Bradford ought to sign him in that case, he'll make a good triangle with
Lowes (the People's***head) & McDermott (the People's Pugilist).

--
TM