Gate prices

Gate prices

Post by Mugwu » Sun, 10 Nov 1996 04:00:00


According to the local rag the gate price at Saints has now gone
up to 8.00 so I would imagine that most of the other clubs will
be putting theirs up too.

Now I don't know about any of you but IMO +-8.00 is taking the
***- I can get into Old Trafford/Anfield/Goodison for not that
much more.

Grounds which have facilities which are light years beyond any
of the "Traditional" RL grounds.

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Post by John Hull » Mon, 11 Nov 1996 04:00:00



Quote:
> According to the local rag the gate price at Saints has now gone
> up to 8.00

But have they though through their pricing, other than charging half for
kids and oaps? Are they doing family deals, or special prices to bring kids
in?

Quote:
> Now I don't know about any of you but IMO +-8.00 is taking the
>***- I can get into Old Trafford/Anfield/Goodison for not that
> much more.

Last season the Broncos charged 10 ( in theory anyway - most turned up
with Sun vouchers and got in for a fiver).

What matters of course is not price but value: if you get a decent
evening's entertainment along with the match then the entry fee is easier
to accept.

Quote:
> Grounds which have facilities which are light years beyond any
> of the "Traditional" RL grounds.

Absolutely.

Clubs could keep match fees down if they were better orgainised to tempt
money from you once inside. Going to Charlton I was struck by Broncos
supporters buying fast food outside the ground. That was money lost to the
Broncos. Even dafter was the tiny supporters' shop outside the ground. Yet
inside the ground there was acres of empty space and nothing to buy!

John

 
 
 

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Post by J. Charnoc » Mon, 11 Nov 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

>According to the local rag the gate price at Saints has now gone
>up to 8.00 so I would imagine that most of the other clubs will
>be putting theirs up too.
>I can get into Old Trafford/Anfield/Goodison for not that much more
>....which have facilities which are light years beyond any
>of the "Traditional" RL grounds.

However, it also costs more than that to get in to see Brighton,
Rochdale, Hartlepool, etc. in the lower divisions, and these places
do not have luxury grounds. The price of admission depends on the
expected crowd s well as on the quality of the facilities on offer.
The only way to get better grounds is  to get more people watching
(live or on TV), to generate more income. Perhaps then, with better
facilities, even more people would come to games, generating more
money, etc. The problem is getting started on the upward spiral.

John Charnock

 
 
 

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Post by Mugwu » Tue, 12 Nov 1996 04:00:00


Quote:


>: According to the local rag the gate price at Saints has now gone
>: up to 8.00 so I would imagine that most of the other clubs will
>: be putting theirs up too.

>: Now I don't know about any of you but IMO +-8.00 is taking the
>:***- I can get into Old Trafford/Anfield/Goodison for not that
>: much more.

>Only twice as much for the shite seats Muggy, and that for a game of
>kicking the ball and chasing after it. Now that is taking the piss.

>I'm not defending it but christ, it's well known that clubs are short of
>cash and 8 quid once a fortnight for something I'm obsessed with ain't
>going to break the bank.

Maybe so buddy - but for HOW LONG?

Exactly 14 months ago the gate price at Saints was 6.00.

A 33.3% rise in 14 months???

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't this a tad over the rate of inflation?

Mugwump

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Post by Vibrating Bum-Faced Goa » Tue, 12 Nov 1996 04:00:00

: According to the local rag the gate price at Saints has now gone
: up to 8.00 so I would imagine that most of the other clubs will
: be putting theirs up too.

: Now I don't know about any of you but IMO +-8.00 is taking the
:***- I can get into Old Trafford/Anfield/Goodison for not that
: much more.

Only twice as much for the shite seats Muggy, and that for a game of
kicking the ball and chasing after it. Now that is taking the piss.

I'm not defending it but christ, it's well known that clubs are short of
cash and 8 quid once a fortnight for something I'm obsessed with ain't
going to break the bank.

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Post by Brendan_J_Connoll » Tue, 12 Nov 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

> Clubs could keep match fees down if they were better orgainised to tempt
> money from you once inside. Going to Charlton I was struck by Broncos
> supporters buying fast food outside the ground. That was money lost to the
> Broncos.

The money was "lost" anyway all the money from all food and beverages went to Charlton FC
which is one of the reasons why London Broncos are leaving the Valley.

Quote:
> Even dafter was the tiny supporters' shop outside the ground.Yet
> inside the ground there was acres of empty space and nothing to buy!

> John

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Post by Ian Walke » Tue, 12 Nov 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

> According to the local rag the gate price at Saints has now gone
> up to 8.00 so I would imagine that most of the other clubs will
> be putting theirs up too.

> Now I don't know about any of you but IMO +-8.00 is taking the
>***- I can get into Old Trafford/Anfield/Goodison for not that
> much more.

> Grounds which have facilities which are light years beyond any
> of the "Traditional" RL grounds.

The Bulls have increased their gate prices to 8 also but IMO it's value
for money when you are getting a full afternoons/evenings
entertainment.  I would imagine Saints offer discounted season tickets
like most clubs which greatly reduces the cost per game.  For example
the discounted season ticket price for the Bulls is 64 which works out
at 5.81 per game. In addition to this you recieve a free childs season
ticket worth 55 at 5 per game.

Just to really***you off I been told from a very good source that the
cost for the Global League fixtures will be a minimum of 10.

I agree with you on the facilities at most RL grounds are a joke.
Having to***up against a brick wall in the open is not my idea of
heaven.

 
 
 

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Post by Mr P Halliwel » Wed, 13 Nov 1996 04:00:00

Quote:
> Maybe so buddy - but for HOW LONG?
> Exactly 14 months ago the gate price at Saints was  6.00.
> A 33.3% rise in 14 months???
> Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't this a tad over the rate of inflation?
> Mugwump

Well they have to find some way of paying all those large contracts
they now have with the players, especially Newlove.  I hate to think
what debt Saints would have been in if they hadn't won the
superleague this season and the challenge cup from last season.  The
Saints board took a big gamble and it paid off this time.

Wigan almost fell into this trap as well.  Sure they paid big
contracts and could have gone on doing so if they kept on winning.  
But as salary caps loomed and players demanded more money, the Wigan
board started to clamp down on wage bills.  Hence several players
have left for big money whilst they were still worth something.
Offiah, Quinnell, Betts, Botica, Mcdermott, Clarke and Platt. And of
course Leeds would always pay big money for the 30 year old players
from Wigan.

I believe Wigan have not raised the gate prices this season yet.  But
still even 7 or 8 pounds for a RL game is great value for the what
you see.  And if we have to forgo pre and post match flashy
entertainment to keep the gate prices down then I'll be happy with
that.  Also 10 quid for a global league match sounds not too bad as
the entertainment will exist, the game will be better and the travle
costs have to come from somewhere.  And extra 3 quid per person to
get a top Aus side over here or a Brit side over to Aus isn't too much to ask.
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Post by Vibrating Bum-Faced Goa » Wed, 13 Nov 1996 04:00:00


: >
: >Only twice as much for the shite seats Muggy, and that for a game of
: >kicking the ball and chasing after it. Now that is taking the piss.
: >
: >I'm not defending it but christ, it's well known that clubs are short of
: >cash and 8 quid once a fortnight for something I'm obsessed with ain't
: >going to break the bank.

: Maybe so buddy - but for HOW LONG?

Until I'm out of work with fif*** kids to support. Even then I'd
probably shed a few organs to the illegal transplant industry.

Oh, you mean how long will prices stay under a tenner or so? Well, the
thing is how many clubs will be playing in their current venues in a few
years time? Various clubs are moving in with their local soccer clubs and
Bradford won't be playing at Odsal in its current incarnation for long,
whether that means an 80,000 seater refit for the place or a new stadium
just for the Bulls on a different site. Wigan will be in Robin Park soon
whether the speccies like it or not and London move around out of habit.

Who's left in the Super League? Warrington, Saints, Leeds and Castleford.

I suspect Castleford won't be long for this world in Super League and
their Chairman's attitude to the game in general doesn't exactly have me
b*** with confidence for them.

The one thing I'm fairly confident of is that some time soon, we'll have
a two-down one-up relegation system for a year so that South Wales can be
brought in in '98 or '99 without unbalancing the number of sides.

That's Castleford and Oldham out of the equation then which leaves Saints
and Wire. *** only knows what's going on at Warrington.

: Exactly 14 months ago the gate price at Saints was 6.00.

: A 33.3% rise in 14 months???

: Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't this a tad over the rate of inflation?

Given the number of teams that seem to think they're in the 1970's, no it
probabaly isn't. :)

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Post by Stev » Thu, 14 Nov 1996 04:00:00

<snipped>

Quote:
>Clubs could keep match fees down if they were better orgainised to tempt
>money from you once inside. Going to Charlton I was struck by Broncos
>supporters buying fast food outside the ground. That was money lost to the
>Broncos. Even dafter was the tiny supporters' shop outside the ground. Yet
>inside the ground there was acres of empty space and nothing to buy!

>John

Charlton own the drinks and food outlets in the ground, Broncos get
nothing from sale of refreshments. Another resaon to move.

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Post by Stev » Thu, 14 Nov 1996 04:00:00


net.com> writes

Quote:
>According to the local rag the gate price at Saints has now gone
>up to 8.00 so I would imagine that most of the other clubs will
>be putting theirs up too.

>Now I don't know about any of you but IMO +-8.00 is taking the
>piss - I can get into Old Trafford/Anfield/Goodison for not that
>much more.

>Grounds which have facilities which are light years beyond any
>of the "Traditional" RL grounds.

<sig file snipped>
Last premiership game I went to cost me 44.00 for two average seats.

Its all about value for money, most fans drink more than 8.00 before
and after the game. At London we often get The Acadamy game first, some
entertainment and the main event for 10; some games 5 with vouchers,
kids get in free. Six of us get in for 20. Its cheaper than the cinema!

You want a decent sport, attract top sportsmen into the game, encourage
youngsters to take up the sport. The biggest thing that struck me when I
came to RL was how comparatively cheap it was to watch.  

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Post by John Lancast » Thu, 14 Nov 1996 04:00:00



Quote:
>According to the local rag the gate price at Saints has now gone
>up to 8.00 so I would imagine that most of the other clubs will
>be putting theirs up too.

>Now I don't know about any of you but IMO +-8.00 is taking the
>piss - I can get into Old Trafford/Anfield/Goodison for not that
>much more.

Four*** quid for the Kop, you get a seat, mind. Goes up to seven***
for other stands. They get 40 odd thousand every game...........

As I have stated in the past, yer pays yer money.
John

 
 
 

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Post by John Hull » Thu, 14 Nov 1996 04:00:00

So was the choice of Charlton a miscalculation, or was it simply the only
offer available?



Quote:
> <snipped>

> Charlton own the drinks and food outlets in the ground, Broncos get
> nothing from sale of refreshments. Another resaon to move.

> --
> Steve

 
 
 

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Post by John Hull » Sat, 16 Nov 1996 04:00:00

Which all begs the question. Was the move the Charlton a miscalculation, or
the only thing that was available?



Quote:
> <snipped>
> >Clubs could keep match fees down if they were better orgainised to tempt
> >money from you once inside. Going to Charlton I was struck by Broncos
> >supporters buying fast food outside the ground. That was money lost to
the
> >Broncos. Even dafter was the tiny supporters' shop outside the ground.
Yet
> >inside the ground there was acres of empty space and nothing to buy!

> >John

> Charlton own the drinks and food outlets in the ground, Broncos get
> nothing from sale of refreshments. Another resaon to move.

> --
> Steve

 
 
 

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Post by Stev » Sun, 17 Nov 1996 04:00:00



Quote:
>So was the choice of Charlton a miscalculation, or was it simply the only
>offer available?



>> <snipped>

>> Charlton own the drinks and food outlets in the ground, Broncos get
>> nothing from sale of refreshments. Another resaon to move.

>> --
>> Steve

Right on both counts I think. There were not too many options on the
table for London (still aren't).

I think London felt they would get bigger gates and that Charlton would
be more flexible after a first season of ground sharing.

cheers

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