The "Love em or hate em" awards!

The "Love em or hate em" awards!

Post by Geff Fost » Sat, 07 Sep 1996 04:00:00


OK we've had the Man of steel awards and the VBFG awards IMO
it's time for a bit of fun an nostalgia.

Yes we all like the Paul's, Newlove's, Connolly's and Goulding's
of this world but c'mon the blokes we really love are the nutcases,
yes I think it's time we paid tribute to all those hard-knocks and
psycho's which we have had in RL over the years :)

I'm going to start by nominating my top ten "Hard Bastards",
see what you think.

Number 10: Chris Arkwright (St. Helens) - Centre***loose forward
who's most famous exploit was knocking Wally Lewis up and down
Knowsley Road until he was black and blue. Arkwright's actions prompted
Lewis into one of the most famous statements of all time :

"St. Helens are THUGS, they're not supposed to tackle ME!"

Number 9: Dean Bell (NZ, Carlisle and Wigan) - It was in his early years
in Cumbria that Dean Bell acquired the nickname of "Mean Dean", a world
class centre who possessed blistering pace, Bell presence was nothing
less than fearsome when he took to the field.

Number 8: Ronnie "Rambo" Gibbs (Aus, Castleford) - A real Aussie headbanger
who liked nothing better than to stand toe to toe in the centre circle
with anybody which caught his fancy, his battles with ex-Saint Stuart
Evans were worth the entrance fee alone. Once tore up the Saints dressing
room in a fit of rage after being sent off for flattening Paul Loughlin.

Number 7: Clayton Friend (NZ, Carlisle) - Not many scrum halves gave Andy
Gregory a tough time but this bloke was an exception. Probably NZ's greatest
modern scrum half this iron man gave Gregory a pasting (in every sense of
the word) he would never forget in 89.

Number 6: Les Boyd (Aus, Warrington) - A man with a fearsome reputation in
Australia and when he was "suspended" from their competition he came over
to England to deal out his own version of rough justice. Boyd was hard -
bordering on psycopathic but he was a class player in his own right.
English packs around the league breathed a sigh of relief when Boyd decided
to call it a day.

Number 5: Eddie Syzmala (Barrow) - Only ever saw him play twice but you
only needed to look at this man's face to know that he was ULTRA-hard.
When Les Boyd arrived in Britain with his hard man reputation Syzmala
decided he was having none of it, when the Australian team coach arrived
in Barrow he was waiting on the pavement outisde the ground with a T-shirt
which had "Who the f*** is Les Boyd?" stencilled on the back.

Now that's what I call BALLS!

Number 4: Des Drummond (Warrington, Leigh & others) - In the mid 80's
there was always one golden rule which all new recruits we taught before
they set foot out onto the paddock. That rule was "DONT MESS WITH DEZZY D".
Drummond was only small of stature but his body was made of cast iron.
Phil Veivers will testify to this, he was once on the end of a Drummond
shoulder charge which left him unconcious!
I'll never forget Kelvin Skerret deciding that he was going to show Drummond
who was the boss, DD (who incidentally held black belts in several martial arts)
swung round a struck a Bruce Lee pose. After a moments thought Skerret decided
that he may have been a little rash in his actions.

Number 3: Brendon Tuuta (NZ, Aus, Fev and Cas) : Acquired the nickname "The
Baby Faced Assassain" after his "***" on Wally Lewis in a NZ v AUS test
match. As hard as they come and a damn good rugby player to boot. Tuuta
fears no man and whilst his methods are "borderline" to say the least he
always gets the crowd going :)

Number 2: Kevin Ward (Cas & Saints) - This man was SO hard he didn't need
to prove it, not the fittest forward in the world nor the fastest but this
colossus of a man was literally a one man wrecking crew. When the Aussie
forwards were at their peak this man came saw and conquered. Only ever saw
him lose his temper twice at Saints the consequences were terrible. If he
copped a high one or a stray elbow he would simply pull his shorts up into
his bollocks (his trademark) and crank up the V8.

Number 1: David Bishop (Wales RU, Hull KR) Well some of you might shake your
heads and say "nah!" but IMO this bloke was the meanest, baddest, toughest pound for
rugby player which I have ever seen. Bishop only played a few seasons of RL but
his fierce uncompromising style of play left no-one in doubt as to who the
"daddy" was on the field. I remember Roy Haggerty (Who was no soft touch himself)
once butting DB at Craven Park, within the space of a few seconds Bishop had
landed ump*** blows on Haggerty's skull and had left him dazed on the ground.
His private life mirrored his rugby career - when he wasn't saving children from
drowning in the river he was laying out four men outisde of a nightclub in Swansea.
I'll never forget him playing for the Welsh RL side against England as a ***,
Bishop dislocated his finger in the first half and the injury looked horrific,
he shouted across to the trainer who promptly came on and put the finger back into
place without him even grimacing, within the space of a couple of minutes he was
setting up a try down at the other end of the pitch.

Bishop was without a doubt a proud addition to the ROCK HARD club!

Geff

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Post by Craig McDermo » Sun, 08 Sep 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

> Number 10: Chris Arkwright (St. Helens) - Centre***loose forward
> who's most famous exploit was knocking Wally Lewis up and down
> Knowsley Road until he was black and blue. Arkwright's actions prompted
> Lewis into one of the most famous statements of all time :

Played against Chris about 2 years ago when he turned out for the mighty
Sutton Boilmakers against my team Folly Lane in the NWC Cup and he was
still a hard ***

.....sorry hard bald headed ***.

Craig

 
 
 

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Post by Nick Gribb » Sun, 08 Sep 1996 04:00:00

What about Paul Cullen Geff?  No talent, nice on telly but one crazy
fool.  I know he is getting on now, but he's still capable of putting
the best in hospital.

I remember him mauling Sean Devine in a cup tie at Knowsley Road.
Cullen really floored him!

BTW What about a 'great player, no bottle' top ten?

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Post by Craig McDermo » Mon, 09 Sep 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

> BTW What about a 'great player, no bottle' top ten?

Phil Ford...............a real shithouse
also  Danny Wilson..............great player father of a genius (ryan) but
one hell of a shitbag!!
 
 
 

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Post by Geff Fost » Mon, 09 Sep 1996 04:00:00


Quote:

>> BTW What about a 'great player, no bottle' top ten?

>Phil Ford...............a real shithouse
>also  Danny Wilson..............great player father of a genius (ryan) but
>one hell of a shitbag!!

Yeah yeah they're an option but can you really say that they are above
Andy Currier?

Geff

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Post by Gary Austi » Mon, 09 Sep 1996 04:00:00

How about Big Jim Mills? Still holds the record for the most sendings
off in a career, I think.

Bill Ramsey (Hull) What a guy. No brain, but fists of steel.

Kurt Sorensen always gave as good as he got.

Bob someone from Warrington. Can't remember his second name, but he
always struck me (not literally) as being a bit of a hardknock. Blond
hair, but not much of it.
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Post by Malc Brook » Tue, 10 Sep 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

>Number 10: Chris Arkwright (St. Helens) - Centre***loose forward
>who's most famous exploit was knocking Wally Lewis up and down
>Knowsley Road until he was black and blue. Arkwright's actions prompted
>Lewis into one of the most famous statements of all time :

>"St. Helens are THUGS, they're not supposed to tackle ME!"

There's a very touching moment in the Saints Hull KR premiership from
'85 when Saints win the scrum, Holding throws the ball out to
Arkwright who knocks on. His reaction to this mistake? Find the
nearest Hull KR player and chin him.

I think Chris Burton is worthy of a mention, he was just plain
psychotic.

Regards, Malc
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Post by Rob Blyt » Tue, 10 Sep 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

>Bob someone from Warrington. Can't remember his second name, but he
>always struck me (not literally) as being a bit of a hardknock. Blond
>hair, but not much of it.
>--

Jackson was his name - last seen playing centre for Moore RUFC Mavericks
(3rd team***vets) along with Kurt Sorenson.

I only caught the back end of his career but what about Joe Price.

 
 
 

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Post by Geff Fost » Tue, 10 Sep 1996 04:00:00


Quote:

>How about Big Jim Mills? Still holds the record for the most sendings
>off in a career, I think.

Never saw him.

Quote:
>Bill Ramsey (Hull) What a guy. No brain, but fists of steel.

Never saw him either.

Quote:
>Kurt Sorensen always gave as good as he got.

Well Sorenson was tough but I saw Stuart Evans smash him all over
Naughton Park once and since Ronnie Gibbs won on points against
Evans at Wheldon Road neither of them make the list.

Quote:
>Bob someone from Warrington. Can't remember his second name, but he
>always struck me (not literally) as being a bit of a hardknock. Blond
>hair, but not much of it.

Bob Jackson? - Nah he was a *** cat :)

Geff

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Post by Geff Fost » Tue, 10 Sep 1996 04:00:00


Quote:

>What about Paul Cullen Geff?  No talent, nice on telly but one crazy
>fool.  I know he is getting on now, but he's still capable of putting
>the best in hospital.

Well he was tough in his early years but he mellowed out later on.

Quote:
>I remember him mauling Sean Devine in a cup tie at Knowsley Road.
>Cullen really floored him!

C'mon Nick, flooring Sean Devine hardly qualifies you for the
ROCK HARD CLUB does it?

If he had floored Chris Arkwright with a single blow I might think
about it but there was never much chance of that was there?

Geff

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Post by Vibrating Bum-Faced Goa » Tue, 10 Sep 1996 04:00:00


: >
: >How about Big Jim Mills? Still holds the record for the most sendings
: >off in a career, I think.

: Never saw him.

My earliest Rugby League memory is of Jim Mills. All I can clearly
remember is my dad shouting "Kill the poison dwarf!" and he assures me it
was Jim Mills throwing Bobby Fulton head first into the mud at the
Bradford test of the 1978 series.

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Post by Gary Austi » Tue, 10 Sep 1996 04:00:00



Quote:

>>Bob someone from Warrington. Can't remember his second name, but he
>>always struck me (not literally) as being a bit of a hardknock. Blond
>>hair, but not much of it.
>>--

>Jackson was his name

That's the one.

Quote:

>I only caught the back end of his career but what about Joe Price.

For whom, and when, did he play?

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Post by Gary Austi » Tue, 10 Sep 1996 04:00:00


net.com> writes

Quote:


>>How about Big Jim Mills? Still holds the record for the most sendings
>>off in a career, I think.

>Never saw him.

He scored tries as well. The most memorable was in the Wembley final of
1975 against Warrington. ***chairman, though.

Quote:

>>Bill Ramsey (Hull) What a guy. No brain, but fists of steel.

>Never saw him either.

>>Kurt Sorensen always gave as good as he got.

>Well Sorenson was tough but I saw Stuart Evans smash him all over
>Naughton Park once and since Ronnie Gibbs won on points against
>Evans at Wheldon Road neither of them make the list.

>>Bob someone from Warrington. Can't remember his second name, but he
>>always struck me (not literally) as being a bit of a hardknock. Blond
>>hair, but not much of it.

>Bob Jackson? - Nah he was a *** cat :)

Just like Simba :) Hey, what about Uncle Scar? Scares me shitless!
(Lion King quotes, for those not man enough to see them film)

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Post by Southern_Jessi » Wed, 11 Sep 1996 04:00:00


|> >
|> >What about Paul Cullen Geff?  No talent, nice on telly but one crazy
|> >fool.  I know he is getting on now, but he's still capable of putting
|> >the best in hospital.
|>
|> Well he was tough in his early years but he mellowed out later on.
|>

        We were surprised to find the Warrington crowd referring to
        him as "Psycho" - he always seems such a nice well mannered
        chap on telly ;-)

SJ

P.S.  Just got a signed ball from Cas for being "the supporters who
travelled furthest" to watch the Paris game.   Nice touch...

 
 
 

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Post by Paul McNall » Wed, 11 Sep 1996 04:00:00

Kevin Tamati in his dirty bastard days.

Paul Forber still in his dirty bastard days.

Paul
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