> ...but seriously, what the hell is he doing in the HoF???
> He batted over .300 two years, none after 1950. His fielding was
> above average, but I thought he would have been behind his
> I think this is clearly the case of a player that everyone likes, in a
> large media market
the story of his candidacy(and election) has been/had been written
about to death literally hundreds of times over the last twenty
years. Bill James wrote what I thought was the best analysis of the
situation in his book on the hall of fame. One of the biggest
arguments for Rizzuto(other than all the championships and legendary
players like williams and dimaggio vouching for him) was the pee wee
reese connection. They played the same position in the same city at
the exact same time....for that reason they will always be compared
and seen as similar because in some ways they were similar types of
players. They were both of fairly small stature, both known as
clubhouse leaders on successful teams, both known to be good at doing
the "little things".........so the argument goes- how can you have
pee wee in the hof(by the veterans committee) and not have scooter
in? Well the answer is that pee wee was a better player.....he hit
for more power and produced more runs than scooter. That's why reese
should(imo) be in the hof and rizzuto shouldn't have.
, with an "aw shucks" broadcasting style, getting
> in. Kind of like the pathetic attempts by the Cubs to get Ron Santo
> in the Hall.
whoa....this is the first time I've ever heard someone come down on
the same side in terms of rizzuto and santo. Usually people who
believe rizzuto shouldn't be in(based on the numbers) believe that
santo is the most deserving member left out there(based on the
Ron Santo isn't really even a borderline hof selection. He's the 4th
or 5th greatest third baseman ever(going by already retired
players)......how in the world the 4th or 5th best third baseman ever
isn't in the hof is puzzling.
Schmidt, Mathews, and Brett are the three clearly above him imo.
After that...you could make an argument for frank baker and boggs. At
the absolute worst he's the 6th greatest third baseman ever(and I
really have a hard time taking boggs or baker over him). The 6th best
player in the history of mlb at their position should be in the hof.